If this is your first visit, be sure to
check out the FAQ by clicking the
link above. You may have to register
before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages,
select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
Policy / Politique
The fee for tournament organizers advertising on ChessTalk is $20/event or $100/yearly unlimited for the year.
Les frais d'inscription des organisateurs de tournoi sur ChessTalk sont de 20 $/événement ou de 100 $/année illimitée.
You can etransfer to Henry Lam at chesstalkforum at gmail dot com
Transfér à Henry Lam à chesstalkforum@gmail.com
Dark Knight / Le Chevalier Noir
General Guidelines
---- Nous avons besoin d'un traduction français!
Some Basics
1. Under Board "Frequently Asked Questions" (FAQs) there are 3 sections dealing with General Forum Usage, User Profile Features, and Reading and Posting Messages. These deal with everything from Avatars to Your Notifications. Most general technical questions are covered there. Here is a link to the FAQs. https://forum.chesstalk.com/help
2. Consider using the SEARCH button if you are looking for information. You may find your question has already been answered in a previous thread.
3. If you've looked for an answer to a question, and not found one, then you should consider asking your question in a new thread. For example, there have already been questions and discussion regarding: how to do chess diagrams (FENs); crosstables that line up properly; and the numerous little “glitches” that every new site will have.
4. Read pinned or sticky threads, like this one, if they look important. This applies especially to newcomers.
5. Read the thread you're posting in before you post. There are a variety of ways to look at a thread. These are covered under “Display Modes”.
6. Thread titles: please provide some details in your thread title. This is useful for a number of reasons. It helps ChessTalk members to quickly skim the threads. It prevents duplication of threads. And so on.
7. Unnecessary thread proliferation (e.g., deliberately creating a new thread that duplicates existing discussion) is discouraged. Look to see if a thread on your topic may have already been started and, if so, consider adding your contribution to the pre-existing thread. However, starting new threads to explore side-issues that are not relevant to the original subject is strongly encouraged. A single thread on the Canadian Open, with hundreds of posts on multiple sub-topics, is no better than a dozen threads on the Open covering only a few topics. Use your good judgment when starting a new thread.
8. If and/or when sub-forums are created, please make sure to create threads in the proper place.
Debate
9. Give an opinion and back it up with a reason. Throwaway comments such as "Game X pwnz because my friend and I think so!" could be considered pointless at best, and inflammatory at worst.
10. Try to give your own opinions, not simply those copied and pasted from reviews or opinions of your friends.
Unacceptable behavior and warnings
11. In registering here at ChessTalk please note that the same or similar rules apply here as applied at the previous Boardhost message board. In particular, the following content is not permitted to appear in any messages:
* Racism
* Hatred
* Harassment
* Adult content
* Obscene material
* Nudity or pornography
* Material that infringes intellectual property or other proprietary rights of any party
* Material the posting of which is tortious or violates a contractual or fiduciary obligation you or we owe to another party
* Piracy, hacking, viruses, worms, or warez
* Spam
* Any illegal content
* unapproved Commercial banner advertisements or revenue-generating links
* Any link to or any images from a site containing any material outlined in these restrictions
* Any material deemed offensive or inappropriate by the Board staff
12. Users are welcome to challenge other points of view and opinions, but should do so respectfully. Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated. Posts and threads with unacceptable content can be closed or deleted altogether. Furthermore, a range of sanctions are possible - from a simple warning to a temporary or even a permanent banning from ChessTalk.
Helping to Moderate
13. 'Report' links (an exclamation mark inside a triangle) can be found in many places throughout the board. These links allow users to alert the board staff to anything which is offensive, objectionable or illegal. Please consider using this feature if the need arises.
Advice for free
14. You should exercise the same caution with Private Messages as you would with any public posting.
Half point byes:
downside - easy points, leading to wrong player winning prize
upside - better pairing after ?
Zero point byes:
downside - nothing?
Upside - players less likely to request byes, more likely to play
Half point byes:
downside - easy points, leading to wrong player winning prize
upside - better pairing after ?
Zero point byes:
downside - nothing?
Upside - players less likely to request byes, more likely to play
I think if you gave:
0.5 point byes (max 3)
If you have not used any Byes, you may use first one up to Round 7
If you have used a bye, any after Round 5 are 0 point.
I think if you gave:
0.5 point byes (max 3)
If you have not used any Byes, you may use first one up to Round 7
If you have used a bye, any after Round 5 are 0 point.
of course if you organize a tournament you are free to set what you like
no there is not and no more questions, you seem to be the only one who is complaining, the loud minority as it were
Many people say nothing because they realize it is unlikely to make a difference. That should not be mistaken for a tacit acceptance of the methodology chosen.
I am vocal merely because I currently have the time to do so, and because I want the tournament that I took a week off work to play in, to be fair.
You'd think I was arguing for all of King Midas' treasure, the way some of your posts are directed.
Many people say nothing because they realize it is unlikely to make a difference. That should not be mistaken for a tacit acceptance of the methodology chosen.
I am vocal merely because I currently have the time to do so, and because I want the tournament that I took a week off work to play in, to be fair.
You'd think I was arguing for all of King Midas' treasure, the way some of your posts are directed.
You've played in 6 CFC tournaments your entire life, and this is your 7th? And you are an authority on how tournaments should be run? Are you some kind of parody? Your pairings may not be exactly as you like but they don't appear to be unfair. However, maybe the next TD in the next tournament you play will give you exactly the pairings you want, pick a player, any player Matthew.
I just don't like the type of whiner you represent. I've seen too much damage to Canadian chess due to organizers and TDs being endlessly harrangued and driven out of a thankless task by people like you. Sometimes if you whine people will whine back. You have freedom of speech but so do I. You have no idea why no one else is complaining except to paint yourself as their defender.
I'm just being vocal right now because I have the time and I just want the organizers to be treated fairly, whatever small problems there may be.
Last edited by Zeljko Kitich; Saturday, 17th July, 2010, 11:20 AM.
You've played in 6 CFC tournaments your entire life, and this is your 7th? And you are an authority on how tournaments should be run? Are you some kind of parody? Your pairings may not be exactly as you like but they don't appear to be unfair. However, maybe the next TD in the next tournament you play will give you exactly the pairings you want, pick a player, any player Matthew.
I thought we already drew names out of a hat? That was in Round #3. Don't you remember?
As to the number of tournaments, yes. I've played in 6. Why? I don't want to waste my time playing in 5 hour games, when I have other things to do. I rarely take the time to play in them, but this does not correlate to a lack of understanding about how they are structured.
Playing in tournaments does not, by default, generate any special expertise in how the pairings are drafted. Do you know what does? Understanding the rules, reading them, having a thorough knowledge of data organization and other such things. Without know my credentials or background, do you not think it is a *tad* presumptuous of you to assume that a simple lack of tournament play renders me incapable of analyzing a pairing structure?
Of course, I'm the parody here, the guy advocating for the interests of all the players in the tournament in Round 3, at my own expense; the individual who after a player got DQ'ed in Round 1 for no legitimate reason (in, I should add, my opinion) spoke on their behalf anyway - despite not knowing the player and having no personal stake in the outcome.
I just don't like the type of whiner you represent. I've seen too much damage to Canadian chess by organizers and TDs being endlessly harrangued and driven out of a thankless task by people like you. Sometimes if you whine people will whine back, it goes with the territory, get used to it.
And I don't like the type of person you represent, so I suppose, we are equal on that score.
I want the tournament to be run fairly, transparently, and openly. I have said all along that I do not care if that adversely affects my own chances, but I do want to make sure it's just. I also have no interest in deferring to someone merely because some person somewhere thought it fit to give them a title.
I realize, that some people, and perhaps you count yourself among them, are too afraid to stand up and say, "Hey wait a minute, something here doesn't add up", and that's fine. I have not expected, and do not expect, that everyone will have the internal fortitude to fight for what they believe in or object when things are wrong.
In this tournament, there was at the very least, one entirely egregious screw up in Round #3. That has not changed, and it continues to affect pairings and results. The moment that happened, every single person involved in the administration of this tournament lost total credibility. There no longer is, what could best be titled, consumer confidence, in the pairings or results. When you are investing significant portions of your time and money to participate in such things, that's a problem. When the results appear questionable, like my pairing currently is, then it is an even greater opportunity for someone to ask whether they are being done correctly.
Now, instead of your acting as though you're the school yard bully and utilizing ad hominem attacks to attempt to convey your position, why not actually try to rationally consider the way the tournament has been run, and whether you consider that to be the way you would want a *national* tournament to be administered.
If that's the very best Canadian Chess has to offer, it is no wonder we lag behind so many other countries in it.
Last edited by Matthew Scott; Saturday, 17th July, 2010, 11:34 AM.
I can certainly see 1/2 point byes in round 1. Maybe rounds 2 and 3 in a long tourney. But for fairness, for the majority who play, don't put non players into contention, like one of Matthew's rivals has been with byes in rounds 4 and 5.
Tweet
Comment