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It is just a very short clip from a Rodney Dangerfield movie, the name eludes me. Anyway, Rodney goes back to college to be closer to his son. In the clip he is hitting on a college professor. When he asks her for a date, she replies "sorry, I have a class". He tries several days, but she repeats "sorry, I have a class". He finally replies "call me, when you have no class". The exchange between Bob and Jean reminded me of it, and .
I had not choice but to read your clip description, since I am afraid of opening up a link on my computer screen. I take it Rodney is you and college professor is Jean.
Are you implying, that you are consistently trying to hit on Jean now? … and I thought chesstalk could not sink any lower. ;)
I really hope this is not some kind of a virus that you guys cooked up lol. I do not thing anyone will want to be laughing with you after seeing their computer getting crushed!
Sorry Bob, but clicking on your link just caused my computer
to lose its internet connection, and just stay down, without even
showing the page.
The actual cause may have been a virus or Rogers going down.
I am still curious. What is the video about?
It is just a very short clip from a Rodney Dangerfield movie, the name eludes me. Anyway, Rodney goes back to college to be closer to his son. In the clip he is hitting on a college professor. When he asks her for a date, she replies "sorry, I have a class". He tries several days, but she repeats "sorry, I have a class". He finally replies "call me, when you have no class".
The exchange between Bob and Jean reminded me of it, and I just wanted to share the laugh with yu'all.
And there have been others, and others coming up. Maybe the organizers might post the details here for players interested in FIDE – rated tournaments. And also the details of any past, recent FIDE-rated tournaments in order to put the record straight on this.]
The history (and future) is documented at FIDE site:
Hi Jean:
We'll just have to agree to disagree. I think we both have the same length of experience, though mine is " class " and yours " elite ".
Yes, that you guys probably have same length of experice in time that is. I am just not clear about the class here. When you say class, do you refer to class 'C' here. Since I do not think we talking about class 'A' or class 'B' here. :)
Without the financial support of the amateur chess player, there would be no organized chess in Canada. That is the reality we all need to acknowledge.
So, why we have so many governors and executives, if only amateur chess players are major financial supports here? The only thing we can acknowledge here, is that it is time to clean the closet here of old junk and re-organize the mess!
Without the financial support of the amateur chess player, there would be no organized chess in Canada. That is the reality we all need to acknowledge.
So managed to find major problem here, but question remains what are you prepared to do about it.
Nothing was done to eliminate this permanent problem here. It seems that re-form failed in last 2 years to fix this mess?
Every amateur player who pays his membership dues and entry fees helps to grow the chess community. They are all precious, every one.
It seems to us, that you are only interested in $$$. Membership and entry fees are NOT the only wait to grow the chess community. I guess you will keep failing with this approach over and over again. Just look at how FIDE, Russian Federation and other well organizations operate. :D . If you have a free minute and do some research you will realize it is not just memberships and entry fees, that drives successful organizations. Looks like this organization is taken to dark ages. That is a sad reality.
It is not about the money, it is about the growth and health of the chess community.
First, you say that membership and entry fees help drive chess community. Right after, you say that it is not about the money. It is obvious that you are contradicting yourself and everyone here. Now we know why chess in Canada is where it is.
Click on Public Forums and you will find the forum CFC ' News ' ( In the past, Larry has asked posters not to post links to articles in the CFC forums. I don't know if this is still in effect, so I won't ). It is posted there.
Bob A
OK, I think I found it, but I guess I cannot reply to it. It was a good idea for a post.
In the future, when posting anything about FIDE events, please feel free to refer to the Ottawa weekenders. As long as I'm doing them, at least the top section will always be rated FIDE. Feel free to also include our weblink for all EOCA tournaments, this season :
Click on Public Forums and you will find the forum CFC ' News ' ( In the past, Larry has asked posters not to post links to articles in the CFC forums. I don't know if this is still in effect, so I won't ). It is posted there.
The CFC Regular Chess Post – March 5/12 – FIDE Tournaments In Canada.
An issue has recently been raised re the frequency of FIDE-rated tournaments in Canada. Though they have not been plentiful in the past, more recently organizers have taken the bull by the horns, and been organizing an increasing number of FIDE-rated tournaments in Canada! This does not mean that we can be satisfied at this point. The CFC needs to look at what further support can be given to organizers in this regard.
But there have been recent FIDE-rated tournament, and future ones coming up:
Guelph Winter Pro-Am - February 11-12, 2012
Peter Clark Hall, Guelph University Centre
5 Round Swiss; A SWOCL Grand Prix Event
3 Sections: FIDE Rated Pro, FIDE Rated U2000, U1600
Hart House Reading Week Open - February 18th, 19th, 20th (Sat, Sun, Mon).
Great Hall, Hart House, University of Toronto, 7 Hart House Circle, Toronto
Style: 6 round Swiss in 4 sections: Open & U2200 (FIDE Rated), U1900 & U1600
Grand Pacific Open – April /2012 – Victoria, BC.
Canadian Open – July/ 2012 – Victoria, BC.
And there have been others, and others coming up. Maybe the organizers might post the details here for players interested in FIDE – rated tournaments. And also the details of any past, recent FIDE-rated tournaments in order to put the record straight on this.
Forget it. Just stating it is a terrible thing, let alone applied consistently. There is only one fair way to distribute prizes in chess tournaments : according to chess merits. Nobody should complain about the money distributed in an Open section. The prizes are available to anyone good enough to earn them. Nobody should complain about the prizes given in a top restricted section. If one feels that his money is badly spent entering such an event, he can spend it elsewhere or he can work to become good enough to enter such a restricted top section. Class sections should exist mainly if not exclusively to provide a more balanced competition, not to give away money to less deserving players.
Why do you insist on literally staging wars against our top players and marginalising them in every which way possible ? Your line of thinking would spell the end for the few top players that we still have, and the best guarantee for a continued decline for chess in this country which would hurt everyone, from top to bottom.
I am sorry to say that it is extremely disappointed to hear such a simplistic and thoughtless scheme from someone who has been involved in chess for so long. It seems that all these years have been wasted if all they could produce is such nonsense.
Hi Jean:
The top sections can be made larger. Then let the top players come out and play, if they want larger prizes.
We'll just have to agree to disagree. I think we both have the same length of experience, though mine is " class " and yours " elite ".
Kevin Spraggett has an article up about the lack of participation of top FIDE players in tournaments (or about the lack of FIDE tournaments, either seems appropriate).
What do you believe to be the cause of these phenomenons and what possible solutions?
As usual, I think the high cost of participation makes the CFC unappealing for people who can't play 30+ games per year.
Secondly, I think the lack of affiliation between the CFC and FQE is also a big problem, as a lot of strong Quebec players will not travel that far to play games.
Third, There aren't many FIDE level tournaments. It would be nice to have at least 1 FIDE level tournament per week in the big provinces.
Those are my thoughts, what are yours?
Posted on the CFC " News " Forum:
The CFC Regular Chess Post – March 5/12 – FIDE Tournaments In Canada.
An issue has recently been raised re the frequency of FIDE-rated tournaments in Canada. Though they have not been plentiful in the past, more recently organizers have taken the bull by the horns, and been organizing an increasing number of FIDE-rated tournaments in Canada! This does not mean that we can be satisfied at this point. The CFC needs to look at what further support can be given to organizers in this regard.
But there have been recent FIDE-rated tournament, and future ones coming up:
Guelph Winter Pro-Am - February 11-12, 2012
Peter Clark Hall, Guelph University Centre
5 Round Swiss; A SWOCL Grand Prix Event
3 Sections: FIDE Rated Pro, FIDE Rated U2000, U1600
Hart House Reading Week Open - February 18th, 19th, 20th (Sat, Sun, Mon).
Great Hall, Hart House, University of Toronto, 7 Hart House Circle, Toronto
Style: 6 round Swiss in 4 sections: Open & U2200 (FIDE Rated), U1900 & U1600
Grand Pacific Open – April /2012 – Victoria, BC.
Canadian Open – July/ 2012 – Victoria, BC.
And there have been others, and others coming up. Maybe the organizers might post the details here for players interested in FIDE – rated tournaments. And also the details of any past, recent FIDE-rated tournaments in order to put the record straight on this.
Easy enough. For more than 20 years the "Championnat ouvert de la Mauricie" has had 5 or 6 sections with about equal prizes in every one of them. The best formula to figure out who is paying for whom. Almost every year there are more players (sometimes twice as much!) in the top section than in the under 2000 section. Who is subsidizing whom here ? Clearly the top section is more self sufficient than one and generally more than one lower section. And this happens year after year. It is not about "generosity", it is about ill-conceived formulas that many players of all levels find senseless.
Well maybe, but your evidence is far from conclusive. It sounds like the organizers goal maybe to return in prizes that sections entry fees less an appropriate share of the expenses. Maybe along the lines of the Armstrong "level playing field" scenario. Do any of the top section players receive appearance fees or free entry? Perhaps if you factor that in, the top section is "on par" with the other sections. Maybe yes, maybe no, I don't know.
Anyhow, my congratulations to the organizers for 20 years of success.
no doubt Jean confused you when he used the most successful weekend tournament in Canada as an example of how things should not be done....
Wouldn't that depend on the definition of "successful"?
There are a number of different sets of goals among chess players - after reading this far in this thread I fail to see how any agreement can be brokered (not to mention the question of who could accomplish any such reunification).
… and I thought chesstalk could not sink any lower. ;)
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