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  • Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

    Hi Gary:

    1. not entirely sure what you are referring to, but there will be no borrowing from the Chess Foundation;
    2. The president is elected by the Governors at the moment. There is a report that is proposing to change the governance structure quite radically, but it is at the moment unclear if it will come to a vote this meeting. Still in progress.

    Bob A

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    • Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

      Hi Bob,

      The problem, in my opinion, is more than the governance structure.

      Gary
      Gary Ruben
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      • Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

        Bob,

        It seems Trudeau is trying to move back into the house where he grew up. Probably take away some NDP votes in Quebec.

        I think you might have bet the wrong election. The NDP probably has a better chance of winning in Ontario if they pull the plug fast enough. At least get the official opposition. In a minority after an election I could see the Libs propping up the NDP.
        Gary Ruben
        CC - IA and SIM

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        • Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

          Hi Gary:

          Not sure how Trudeau will play in Quebec - the Liberal scandal seems etched in Quebec memory. I think the NDP will hold on, though their growth will have to come from outside Quebec. Ontario might yet swing away from Harper somewhat - as you say, the NDP may do better than expected in the next Ont. Provincial election. Some Liberal BC'ers seem concerned about an NDP provincial win coming out there - more room for the Federal NDP?

          Bob

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          • Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

            Hi Bob,

            I don't follow BC politics much.

            The next election will likely be held with the new boundaries. Ontario will pick up 15 extra seats and Quebec 3. Maybe I shouldn't write this but I think Quebec is becoming insignificant as a political force with the relatively stagnant population numbers.
            Gary Ruben
            CC - IA and SIM

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            • Federal Vote Splitting

              Hi Gary:

              Worriesome. Vote split on the left will deny NDP becoming new Canadian gov't.

              An exclusive poll done by Nanos Research for Power & Politics reveals how Liberal leadership frontrunner Justin Trudeau stacks up against Tom Mulcair and Stephen Harper....The results show Trudeau's uptick in the polls is coming at the expense of the NDP leader.

              On the question of who is the most inspiring leader, the poll suggests Trudeau is connecting with Canadians, with 30 per cent of Canadians choosing him as the most inspiring leader. Harper was second with 17.8 per cent and Mulcair third with 11.6 per cent....But while Trudeau is seen as the most inspiring, the poll also shows Canadians believe he is lacking experience. Only 8.6 per cent of Canadians feel Trudeau has the best experience to lead the country, compared with 41 per cent for Harper and 17.6 per cent for Mulcair.

              Nanos points out that the Conservatives have already been trying to take advantage of this by "hammering Trudeau for his lack of experience."

              The new polls reveal that particular message resonates, he added. And when you weigh which of these factors is more important for a political leader, experience is the winner, Nanos said.

              "Winning is not neccesarily a popularity contest. Stephen Harper has won not based on his personal popularity or hugability, he's won because people have gone into the ballot booth and have made what they believe is the least risky choice," Nanos said.

              So the future is less clear than I had hoped, and the vote split means my odds of winning this $ 20 bet are going down. I'm going to hate to lose this one, you know.

              Bob A

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              • Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

                Double-whammies are always a PITA, Bob. :D
                Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.
                Murphy's law, by Edward A. Murphy Jr., USAF, Aerospace Engineer

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                • Re: Federal Vote Splitting

                  Hi Bob,

                  I never thought the NDP had a chance to form the federal government. I don't know how people will respond to Trudeau as a leader. I never voted for his father (and he was there for close to 2 decades) and I won't vote for him. Lots will, though.

                  I thought the NDP chances are here in Ontario. However, Horvath seems more comfortable gaining small concessions from the Liberal government and I have to wonder if she's more comfortable in a supporting role than she would be as Premier. Her time might be passing.

                  Sometimes I'm unsure of a government which gets elected and it wasn't my choice. Like Harpers government. Next election I ask myself if they have done enough to get re-elected because by that time it's a known quantity. In this case I think they have done enough and I don't see much reason for a change.
                  Gary Ruben
                  CC - IA and SIM

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                  • Our flawed electoral system

                    I love this video about a hypothetical election in the animal kingdom. It explains in an entertaining way how our current system is flawed, narrows our choices, and discriminates against 3rd parties. Better, more democratic systems are in place in other parts of the world. Why not in Canada? My vote will go to any party that seriously pushes for reform.

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo

                    I think the CCC should get on this right away. Armstrong for PM.

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                    • Re: Our flawed electoral system

                      Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
                      I Better, more democratic systems are in place in other parts of the world. Why not in Canada? My vote will go to any party that seriously pushes for reform.

                      I think the CCC should get on this right away. Armstrong for PM.
                      I thought you voted for the green party, or have I got it wrong?

                      Our system is democratic. That is doesn't elect the leaders you want doesn't change that.

                      Do you realize the U.S. and North Korea are close to nuclear war which won't do much for the environment? This is probably the closest since the Cuban Missile Crisis.
                      Gary Ruben
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                      • Re: Our flawed electoral system

                        Hi Bob G:

                        As you know, Ontario had a chance to bring in one of the proportional representation options, to replace the outdated first-past-the-post system we have, and didn't vote for it!

                        Even the CCC, with all its skill, and great Coordinator, would likely have a somewhat uphill battle bringing in federally such a system!

                        My concern is my precious $ 20 in this one - got to keep priorities straight!

                        Bob A

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                        • Re: Our flawed electoral system

                          Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                          Do you realize the U.S. and North Korea are close to nuclear war which won't do much for the environment? This is probably the closest since the Cuban Missile Crisis.
                          No way the North Koreans will follow through all the way on that bluff. We've basically seen this movie before.

                          Iran may be another story, given the religious zealotry their leaders have, but they're not armed with nukes, yet.
                          Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.
                          Murphy's law, by Edward A. Murphy Jr., USAF, Aerospace Engineer

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                          • Re: Our flawed electoral system

                            Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                            Our system is democratic.
                            I did not claim otherwise. What I am saying is that there is room for improvement.
                            Democracy is not just a simple case of whether or not you get a vote. It's a little more complicated than that.

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                            • Re: Our flawed electoral system

                              Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
                              I did not claim otherwise. What I am saying is that there is room for improvement.
                              Democracy is not just a simple case of whether or not you get a vote. It's a little more complicated than that.
                              I wish there was a test in place to qualify a person to vote.

                              I also would like voting to be compulsory - although I realize people could still render their vote spoiled or otherwise useless.
                              ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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                              • Re: Our flawed electoral system

                                Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post

                                My concern is my precious $ 20 in this one - got to keep priorities straight!

                                Bob A
                                I won't ask for it early because the fun is in the anticipation of the big 20 dollar win. :)
                                Gary Ruben
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