Aronian - Carlsen - who's going to win?

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  • Hans Jung
    • 2008-06-01
    • 21175

    #91
    Re: Aronian - Carlsen - who's going to win?

    I must admit I dont understand Magnus today. But who really does? He's created an UGLY position - almost seems he's flaunting his confidence at Kramnik (come get me and try to take my position apart). Who's endgame knowledge is better? The finish maybe very interesting.

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    • Hans Jung
      • 2008-06-01
      • 21175

      #92
      Re: Aronian - Carlsen - who's going to win?

      Gelfand - Aronian seems to be a closed game with White patiently starting queenside pawn buildup. However Black has exposed the weak underbelly e3 agaisnt the white queen. It will be interesting to see if Levon can make something of this and how he will continue kingside play.

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      • Hans Jung
        • 2008-06-01
        • 21175

        #93
        Re: Aronian - Carlsen - who's going to win?

        Interestingly Svidler declines to capture the Rf8 with his black squared bishop leaving him with B+N+R vs Q - probably because the power of the two bishops is stronger than the rooks right now. It will be interesting to see how Grischuk will activate his queen.

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        • Hans Jung
          • 2008-06-01
          • 21175

          #94
          Re: Aronian - Carlsen - who's going to win?

          Magnus held the draw. What cant that guy do on the chessboard? Wow!

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          • Hans Jung
            • 2008-06-01
            • 21175

            #95
            Re: Aronian - Carlsen - who's going to win?

            The most important game of the round turns out to be Gelfand - Aronian. Gelfand is winning. Will he pull it off? Svidler - Grischuk is still tricky. Ivanchuk - Radjabov is the only "normal positonal" game. Looks drawish.

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            • Egidijus Zeromskis
              • 2008-05-30
              • 5715

              #96
              Re: Aronian - Carlsen - who's going to win?

              Originally posted by Hans Jung View Post
              The most important game of the round turns out to be Gelfand - Aronian. Gelfand is winning.
              That would be a good present to Magnus :D

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              • Hans Jung
                • 2008-06-01
                • 21175

                #97
                Re: Aronian - Carlsen - who's going to win?

                Rd 9 Svidler - Grischuk ended up drawn. Chucky ended up winning against Radjabov. The most important result was Gelfand beating Aronian. Magnus leads by half a point over Aronian and one point over Kramnik.

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                • Laurentiu Grigorescu
                  • 2010-04-24
                  • 236

                  #98
                  Re: Aronian - Carlsen - who's going to win?

                  Gelfand entered "chess teaching" mode - and the audience being a couple of 2800s in average. Both his wins are impressive, which shows that class beats current ratings. Kramnik finally won a trademark game against Svidler while Chucky remains himself, losing a simple position on time but winning against Radjabov from an equal one.

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                  • Alan Baljeu
                    • 2008-07-11
                    • 425

                    #99
                    Re: Aronian - Carlsen - who's going to win?

                    Originally posted by Hans Jung View Post
                    Magnus held the draw. What cant that guy do on the chessboard? Wow!
                    Only one thing, apparently: play a strong opening. But when it comes to winning drawish positions, or drawing lost positions, he always seems to manage!

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                    • Alan Baljeu
                      • 2008-07-11
                      • 425

                      #100
                      Re: Aronian - Carlsen - who's going to win?

                      Originally posted by Laurentiu Grigorescu View Post
                      Gelfand entered "chess teaching" mode - and the audience being a couple of 2800s in average. Both his wins are impressive, which shows that class beats current ratings.
                      Yep. Gelfand proves he belongs here. That he isn't in the top 10 is more because he doesn't chase rating points than because he can't play. He saves his best for games that count.

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                      • Jordan S. Berson
                        • 2008-10-01
                        • 545

                        #101
                        Re: Aronian - Carlsen - who's going to win?

                        Originally posted by Alan Baljeu View Post
                        Yep. Gelfand proves he belongs here. That he isn't in the top 10 is more because he doesn't chase rating points than because he can't play. He saves his best for games that count.
                        Well stated, Alan!!
                        No matter how big and bad you are, when a two-year-old hands you a toy phone, you answer it.

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                        • Hans Jung
                          • 2008-06-01
                          • 21175

                          #102
                          Re: Aronian - Carlsen - who's going to win?

                          Prediction candidates winner - Magnus Carlsen. Why? After what he has gone thru the last 3 rounds he has only to face Gelfand next round (and Gelfand has the respect of everyone and the highest level). After that for Magnus capabilities the rest will be like cherry picking. He had dominated Svidler and Grischuk. Chucky is always dangerous but erratic and Radjabov is in a hole of mental anguish from which he may not recover in this tournament.

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                          • Gary Ruben
                            Just Wondering
                            • 2008-05-30
                            • 4915

                            #103
                            Re: Aronian - Carlsen - who's going to win?

                            So simple is chess. :)
                            Gary Ruben
                            CC - IA and SIM

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                            • Hans Jung
                              • 2008-06-01
                              • 21175

                              #104
                              Re: Aronian - Carlsen - who's going to win?

                              How true. More like how simple is my prediction and how complex is chess. A saying comes to mind "best laid plans of mice and men" (hope I have it right)
                              Anyways at that level of chess tension (the candidates) there are dozens of scenarios that might prove me wrong.:o (but then again look at the title of this thread):)

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                              • Laurentiu Grigorescu
                                • 2010-04-24
                                • 236

                                #105
                                Re: Aronian - Carlsen - who's going to win?

                                He is young and a self made man, without Botvinnik school of chess to support him. To be at Kramnik's level in the opening it takes years of work. I am not sure how strong were Anand or Fischer at Magnus's age, for example (with regards to openings)

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