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Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post... Compare it to Japan where they allow early intervention. therapeutics such as Ivermectin ...
https://www-forbes-com.cdn.ampprojec...delta-surge%2F
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey
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Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post
hijacked and transported to US :)"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey
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Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-c...ne-Dec2020.pdf. He is in constant contact with Dr's around the world including Japan that have saved thousands of lives with his protocol.
Here is one of many of Dr. Kory's Japanese colleagues saving lives with his protocol
https://twitter.com/brenontheroad/st...12472958685186
Sorry but I believe the research of frontline Dr's to backline do nothing pharma sponsored and corrupted journals and their medical authors every day of the week. I live in the real world, not in the dream world that your sources invent who have never treated a single patient in their lives.
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Ivermectin in news:
The Star
https://www.thestar.com/news/investi...-got-some.html
A covert network of Canadian doctors is prescribing ivermectin to treat COVID. Here’s how we got some
Science and medicine dismiss the drug as a COVID treatment. But for the misguided or desperate, there are those in Canada willing to supply it.
It was free to see yesterday but became for subscribers only.
Global News version
https://globalnews.ca/news/8540126/c...ealth-ontario/Last edited by Egidijus Zeromskis; Friday, 28th January, 2022, 04:18 PM.
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Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View PostIvermectin in news:
The Star
https://www.thestar.com/news/investi...-got-some.html
A covert network of Canadian doctors is prescribing ivermectin to treat COVID. Here’s how we got some
Science and medicine dismiss the drug as a COVID treatment. But for the misguided or desperate, there are those in Canada willing to supply it.
It was free to see yesterday but became for subscribers only.
Global News version
https://globalnews.ca/news/8540126/c...ealth-ontario/Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View PostBut for the misguided or desperate, there are those in Canada willing to supply
https://www.cureus.com/articles/8216...score-matching
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/MATH-plus-Rationale-Journal-of-Intensive-Care-Medicine-Dec2020.pdf
Maybe it is time to ask the murderous tyrants in Ottawa WTF is going on? Here is how your precious vaccines are doing against fully vaccinated high risk groups. Namely the elderly in nursing homes. Do you know what genocide means?
https://covexit.com/covid-19-taking-...l-vaccination/
https://rescue.substack.com/p/how-a-...UtuqxWb4uz_MOA
Wake up!Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Friday, 28th January, 2022, 05:02 PM.
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Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
Get real! Let's talk about actual Dr's that have successfully treated patients shall we? A journalists opinion who has never even treated a patient is ridiculous. Heck here is a study that shows ivermectin prophylactically is far more efficacious than vaccines with a safety track record that goes back decades.
[URL="https://www.cureus.com/articles/82162-ivermectin-prophylaxis-used-for-covid-19-a-citywide-prospective-observational-study-of-223128-subjects-using-propensity-score-matching"]https://www.cureus.com/articles/8216...score-matching
https://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1471320838435586050
"7/n On top of this, two of the authors report a direct financial conflict of interest, in that they say they work for a pharmaceutical company that makes money off ivermectin"
"19/ All of this makes the "limitations" and conclusions sections absolutely bizarre. Turns out you can just declare things are causal as long as you believe it hard enough I suppose?"
upto 24 points...
Do you have interest in selling ivermectin?
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Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post
You aware that any paper on covid is scrutinized from all angles by anyone. Here is one of them on your paper:
https://twitter.com/GidMK/status/1471320838435586050
"7/n On top of this, two of the authors report a direct financial conflict of interest, in that they say they work for a pharmaceutical company that makes money off ivermectin"
"19/ All of this makes the "limitations" and conclusions sections absolutely bizarre. Turns out you can just declare things are causal as long as you believe it hard enough I suppose?"
upto 24 points...
Do you have interest in selling ivermectin?
the state of Uttar Pradesh in India was heavily vaccinated at a time when only 5.8 percent were vaccinated.
The paper I cited is fully peer-reviewed. By the way, show me a citation against ivermectin from a Dr that has actually successfully treated high-risk Covid+ patients by the thousands.
Gee, I wonder why you won’t find any.
Your other question about me having an interest in selling ivermectin is obviously no. Stop trying to attack my character and stick to the science...oh, I forgot, you only briefly studied biology before you dropped out of the course.Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Friday, 28th January, 2022, 11:04 PM.
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Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View PostHealth nerd is a pharma shill that spews all kinds of nonsense. My favorite was his tweet that said that claimed the
State of Uttar Pradesh in India was heavily vaccinated at a time when only 5.8 percent were vaccinated.
The paper I cited is fully peer reviewed. By the way show me a citation against ivermectin from a Dr that has actually successfully treated high risk Covid+ patients by the thousands.
Gee I wonder why you won’t find any.
Is it right about that article?
"Prospective observational" in a drug trial is a giant red flag. If someone has already done all that work, why not do a proper RCT?
Cureus doesn't use traditional peer review, which is Red Flag 2.
Authors being out-of-field or with no significant affiliation is Red Flag 3."
Why was not this program extended beyond the city of Itajai?
Against ivermectin - Dr. Merck told - there are better alternatives:
"Ivermectin manufacturer Merck did not directly comment on the supply issues affecting PRINCIPLE. However, as part of a longer statement on the drug provided to MedPage Today via email, the company said that it has "concluded that the probability of ivermectin providing a potentially safe and efficacious treatment option for SARS-CoV-2 infection is low and have prioritized internal efforts towards the development of alternate candidates that provide a higher probability of success for the treatment of COVID-19."
"Principle" is the UK study on various drugs for covid.
Another science joke about ivm: "One could call it Schrödinger Cure. Both a dramatic, miraculous, pandemic ending effect size and only detectable in poor quality trials."
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Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
Here is your author for the Forbes Article https://www.bruceylee.com/. how many COVID+ patients has he treated successfully? Spoiler alert ZERO. He attacks Dr. Pierre Kory who has saved 1000's of patients lives with his protocol at all stages of the disease. Here is published and peer-reviewed documents and results on his treatment protocols.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-c...ne-Dec2020.pdf. He is in constant contact with Dr's around the world including Japan that have saved thousands of lives with his protocol.
Here is one of many of Dr. Kory's Japanese colleagues saving lives with his protocol
https://twitter.com/brenontheroad/st...12472958685186
Sorry but I believe the research of frontline Dr's to backline do nothing pharma sponsored and corrupted journals and their medical authors every day of the week. I live in the real world, not in the dream world that your sources invent who have never treated a single patient in their lives.If you don't have an answer or don't want to answer, fine, but don't give me a bunch of stuff that isn't directly related to my question and then NOT answer my question.Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post... Compare it to Japan where they allow early intervention. therapeutics such as Ivermectin ...
https://www-forbes-com.cdn.ampprojec...delta-surge%2F
Regarding the backgrounder info on Bruce Y. Lee, so what? He's entitled to his opinions and seems to be an intelligent guy.
That's all for now.
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey
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Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post
Is it right about that article?
"Prospective observational" in a drug trial is a giant red flag. If someone has already done all that work, why not do a proper RCT?
Cureus doesn't use traditional peer review, which is Red Flag 2.
Authors being out-of-field or with no significant affiliation is Red Flag 3."
Why was not this program extended beyond the city of Itajai?
Against ivermectin - Dr. Merck told - there are better alternatives:
"Ivermectin manufacturer Merck did not directly comment on the supply issues affecting PRINCIPLE. However, as part of a longer statement on the drug provided to MedPage Today via email, the company said that it has "concluded that the probability of ivermectin providing a potentially safe and efficacious treatment option for SARS-CoV-2 infection is low and have prioritized internal efforts towards the development of alternate candidates that provide a higher probability of success for the treatment of COVID-19."
"Principle" is the UK study on various drugs for covid.
Another science joke about ivm: "One could call it Schrödinger Cure. Both a dramatic, miraculous, pandemic ending effect size and only detectable in poor quality trials."Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Postf someone has already done all that work, why not do a proper RCT?
https://ivmmeta.com/#fig_fpr
it is tedious listening to you when you have no clue what you are talking about. The only thing you can do is use Google and try to find counterexamples.
I feel like I am arguing with flat earthers from the 15th century who rely on "fact-checkers" to support their arguments except the "fact-checkers" are also flat earthers.
Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post"Prospective observational" in a drug trial is a giant red flag. If someone has already done all that work, why not do a proper RCT?
Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View PostCureus doesn't use traditional peer review, which is Red Flag 2. t
https://www.cureus.com/editorial_board
Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View PostAuthors being out-of-field or with no significant affiliation is Red Flag 3."
https://twitter.com/RMConservative/s...42507812126726
Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View PostAgainst ivermectin - Dr. Merck told - there are better alternatives:
Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View PostWhy was not this program extended beyond the city of Itajai?
Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Saturday, 29th January, 2022, 01:25 AM.
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Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post
Be careful where you step. It could be a human version of a dog park. : I
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Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post
Sid, I asked you a straightforward question and you respond with the above?? Did you misunderstand what I was looking for? Here it is again:If you don't have an answer or don't want to answer, fine, but don't give me a bunch of stuff that isn't directly related to my question and then NOT answer my question.
Regarding the backgrounder info on Bruce Y. Lee, so what? He's entitled to his opinions and seems to be an intelligent guy.
That's all for now.
https://tfiglobalnews.com/2021/11/08...ffective-move/
In addition, I pointed out that Japan has used Ivermectin in various regions since May of 2020 and throughout this scamdemic had very few deaths.
https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/choken/kij...18-OYT8T50030/ (Internet Archive)
https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/choken/kij...27-OYT8T50019/ (Internet Archive)
https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQ...20C21A1000000/ (Internet Archive)
https://www.mhlw.go.jp/content/000646531.pdf (Internet Archive)
https://lecourrierdesstrateges.fr/2021/08/30/le-japon-prend-partie-pour-livermectine-dans-.. (Internet Archive)
https://twitter.com/brenontheroad/st...12472958685186 (Internet Archive
Several of the references above are in Japanese, in as previous thread the poster complained that he did not know Japanese, apparently, he was unfamiliar with google translate.
https://translate.google.com/
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