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  • Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post

    I am confident that the doctors reporting good results with hydroxychloroquine, zinc and the antibiotic are legitimate doctors. The studies which panned the drug usually had limitations in that they did not use the full treatment course that was shown to be effective or they tried to compare results from groups that were on the verge of death to a healthy group of asymptomatic carriers. Whether the drug is effective or not will be judged by history but it is interesting that everything is tainted by ideology these days.
    The question isn't whether these doctors reporting good results are legitimate doctors, but whether or not they (for example) are donating to Trump's reelection campaign. Because if you are going to research every author to see if they have any left-wing ties or not, and not bother reading them if they do, you should definitely research doctors to see if they have right-wing ties or not and not read their conclusions if they do and their conclusions are something Trump desperately wants to be true.

    I do agree with you that ideology is taking over everything and that that is a bad thing.

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    • Originally posted by Tom O'Donnell View Post
      Covid is passe. The new virus is WrongThink and the only cure is boot-licking and censorship.
      So to be clear ... your next travel destination is not to the newly anointed territory of CHOP?

      The CHOP Open ... :))))

      Ha!

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      • I crunched a few numbers this morning to answer the question:
        "what are the recent trends, red versus blue states?"
        given that Trump has a rally scheduled for tomorrow in Tulsa Oklahoma.

        In the last 6 days (% increase in reported cases) the top 7 states:
        All red
        Alabama 19%
        Arkansas 21%
        Oklahoma 19%
        South Carolina 25%
        Texas 20%
        Arizona 32%
        Florida 21%

        Top blue state is Oregon 18%



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        • Originally posted by Pargat Perrer View Post

          The question isn't whether these doctors reporting good results are legitimate doctors, but whether or not they (for example) are donating to Trump's reelection campaign. Because if you are going to research every author to see if they have any left-wing ties or not, and not bother reading them if they do, you should definitely research doctors to see if they have right-wing ties or not and not read their conclusions if they do and their conclusions are something Trump desperately wants to be true.

          I do agree with you that ideology is taking over everything and that that is a bad thing.
          Most of the initial studies were in Europe where they are unlikely to be donating to Trump's campaign. This was long before Trump weighed in on the drug.

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          • Originally posted by Tony Boron View Post

            What are your thoughts on Zelenko ?
            I don't know enough about Zelenko to say much about him. He is a doctor who has made assertions that the main stream media doesn't like. He is not a research scientist. He did not do a double blind study. Ultimately he will be judged based on the results he got for his patients.

            There is a story in the failing NY times. The people who brought you the Russian witch hunt are still hard at work.

            https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/01/u...aria-drug.html

            Doctor Who Promoted Malarial Drug Draws Scrutiny of Federal Prosectors (sic)

            Last edited by Vlad Drkulec; Friday, 19th June, 2020, 10:56 AM.

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            • Brazil has gone over a million cases (2nd only to the US) and Russia has almost 600,000. India is 4th with 400,000+ Those are the new leaders.

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              • Amongst the original European countries poor United Kingdom (England and Scotland and Wales) is swamped with over 300,000 cases.

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                • In South America Peru and Chile are catching up fast with the leaders (both well over 200,000)

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                  • Can't believe Trump said to slow down testing in his Tulsa rally.

                    And today says it was in jest?

                    Oh, OK ... haha.

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                    • Africa's numbers did not seem bad up til now but now South Africa has exploded with over 100,000 cases and Egypt seems next.

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                      • For the past couple of weeks Ontario's trouble spots have been large farms that house 8,000 mostly Mexican workers. Three have died. Most farmers and workers haven't come out for voluntary testing. Are they afraid of being put into two-week quarantine? What's the solution? Lets the crops rot? Mandatory testing, farm to farm? Mexico has ceased sending more workers. Send unemployed people from the cities? Premier Ford was very upset yesterday. How can people in nearby urban areas like Windsor put pressure on these hot spots?

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                        • Originally posted by Erik Malmsten View Post
                          For the past couple of weeks Ontario's trouble spots have been large farms that house 8,000 mostly Mexican workers. Three have died. Most farmers and workers haven't come out for voluntary testing. Are they afraid of being put into two-week quarantine? What's the solution? Lets the crops rot? Mandatory testing, farm to farm? Mexico has ceased sending more workers. Send unemployed people from the cities? Premier Ford was very upset yesterday. How can people in nearby urban areas like Windsor put pressure on these hot spots?
                          Sending workers to an infected operation would be insane. In this case, the workers should be able to sue the farmers for their negligence. Other businesses should be able to sue the farm operations for their business losses. The reason why they need the foreign workers (most of whom caught the virus here in Canada) is because they are less likely to insist on workplace safety protocols like Canadians would. They have been treated disgracefully by these employers.

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                          • Mexico is the latest to climb the charts. Over 200,000 cases and climbing fast.

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                            • The united states of america has over forty-three thousand new cases today what in the fuck

                              I tried to make this post in all caps so that the reader may understand the insanity of the situation, but this site did not allow me to. Insane!

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                              • Both US and Brazil have 40,000+ new cases in one day, half of the world's new cases.
                                Texas and Floridas numbers have surged dramatically and bars are being closed down.

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