COVID-19 ... how we cope :)

[Sid Belzberg]

https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/01/25/fu...eveloping-ade/

[Egidijus Zeromskis]

https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/01/25/fu...eveloping-ade/

How do you find these articles with such flashy headlines?

"Fully Vaccinated Australians may be developing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome after latest Gov. figures reveal they are 10 times more likely to be infected with Omicron than the Unvaccinated"

Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome - AIDS. Hmmm.

[Sid Belzberg]

How do you find these articles with such flashy headlines?

"Fully Vaccinated Australians may be developing Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome after latest Gov. figures reveal they are 10 times more likely to be infected with Omicron than the Unvaccinated"

Acquired Immunodeficiency Syndrome - AIDS. Hmmm.

Characterize it any way you want, the article gives links to govt
data that shows 99.5 percent of the cases are vaccinated.
What happened to the narrative of “pandemic of the unvaccinated?”
Oh, yes there is now data that shows with each booster shot that shows innate immunity is weakened. AKA AIDS.
You sure have a big mouth for someone who knows virtually nothing about the subject.

[Peter McKillop]

Characterize it any way you want, the article gives links to govt
data that shows 99.5 percent of the cases are vaccinated.
What happened to the narrative of “pandemic of the unvaccinated?”
Oh, yes there is now data that shows with each booster shot that shows innate immunity is weakened. AKA AIDS.
You sure have a big mouth for someone who knows virtually nothing about the subject.

This is from the Daily Exposé article you linked to:

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People can draw their own conclusions.

[Egidijus Zeromskis]

Characterize it any way you want, the article gives links to govt
data that shows 99.5 percent of the cases are vaccinated.
What happened to the narrative of “pandemic of the unvaccinated?”
Oh, yes there is now data that shows with each booster shot that shows innate immunity is weakened. AKA AIDS.
You sure have a big mouth for someone who knows virtually nothing about the subject.

Can you ask your fellows to do the same math for Ontario? Let me know the results. From the https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations website that looks obvious that unvax numbers are too high In ICU:

unvax 216
partial 17
fully 227.


reddit laughs at your type article here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus...an_2022_shows/

have fun

[Sid Belzberg]

This is from the Daily Exposé article you linked to:

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People can draw their own conclusions.

All of the above sites are Fascists that censor science. Why don't you use your G-d given brains and attack the data for once? You pathetically attack the messenger but never the message. If you don't have technical skills or knowledge to do so then do as you previously promised, butt out.

https://rescue.substack.com/p/portra...wzOTWrinIJfqlg

[Sid Belzberg]

Hey why don't you show us where the article is incorrect instead of deflection . Did it ever occur to you that Governments lie? Why do Eureope the UK Scotalnd and areas of Australia that have clean data show the exact opposite results?

Can you ask your fellows to do the same math for Ontario? Let me know the results. From the https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations website that looks obvious that unvax numbers are too high In ICU:

unvax 216
partial 17
fully 227.


reddit laughs at your type article here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus...an_2022_shows/

have fun

As I painstakingly proved in a prior post (particularly Alberta) many provinces in Canada post propaganda and not real data. The gov't data is posted in the article and I can assure it not news Australia is too eager to report. The vaccines are toxic and no longer have efficacy.

[Bob Gillanders]

Can you ask your fellows to do the same math for Ontario? Let me know the results. From the https://covid-19.ontario.ca/data/hospitalizations website that looks obvious that unvax numbers are too high In ICU:

unvax 216
partial 17
fully 227.


reddit laughs at your type article here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Coronavirus...an_2022_shows/

have fun

Ohhh, I like math.

It appears Ontario site was updated shortly after your visit.

Current ICU numbers:
Unvaccinated 202 ( 47%)
Fully or partially vaccinated 228 (53%)

Current vaccinated rate 84% (fully/partial)

So, correcting for the size of the group.

Unvaccinated 47% of total ICU cases but from just 16% of the population
Partial/fully vaccinated 53% of total ICU cases but from 84% of the population.

Conclusion: Vaccines keep you out of the ICU.

[Frank Dixon]

1) South Africa has been recently reporting a combination of AIDS and COVID-19, apparently. AIDS is still a very serious problem there, as it is in many African countries.
2) Thanks to Bob Gillanders for bringing some sanity to this discussion, with his calculations for Ontario COVID; vaxxed vs. unvaxxed. Sid Belzberg, for all of his amazing patronage and support for Canadian chess (thank you, Sid!), is on the wrong track here with his arguments.
3) Effective vaccines, with a strong public health system, combined, are the only practical method to immunize the world's population of billions, against COVID. Any other system could never achieve the speed we have seen; we are approaching 10 billion doses given in just over a year, worldwide. Pre-existing medications may be somewhat effective, but cannot compete on price. The vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are proving to be the most effective against all variants, so far. Even Britain, which developed Astra-Zeneca, and used it extensively, is now purchasing and using Pfizer recently (Astra-Zeneca has been shown to NOT be effective against Omicron).

[Aris Marghetis]

1) South Africa has been recently reporting a combination of AIDS and COVID-19, apparently. AIDS is still a very serious problem there, as it is in many African countries.
2) Thanks to Bob Gillanders for bringing some sanity to this discussion, with his calculations for Ontario COVID; vaxxed vs. unvaxxed. Sid Belzberg, for all of his amazing patronage and support for Canadian chess (thank you, Sid!), is on the wrong track here with his arguments.
3) Effective vaccines, with a strong public health system, combined, are the only practical method to immunize the world's population of billions, against COVID. Any other system could never achieve the speed we have seen; we are approaching 10 billion doses given in just over a year, worldwide. Pre-existing medications may be somewhat effective, but cannot compete on price. The vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are proving to be the most effective against all variants, so far. Even Britain, which developed Astra-Zeneca, and used it extensively, is now purchasing and using Pfizer recently (Astra-Zeneca has been shown to NOT be effective against Omicron).

Thanks Frank (and Bob)

[Sid Belzberg]

1) South Africa has been recently reporting a combination of AIDS and COVID-19, apparently. AIDS is still a very serious problem there, as it is in many African countries.
2) Thanks to Bob Gillanders for bringing some sanity to this discussion, with his calculations for Ontario COVID; vaxxed vs. unvaxxed. Sid Belzberg, for all of his amazing patronage and support for Canadian chess (thank you, Sid!), is on the wrong track here with his arguments.
3) Effective vaccines, with a strong public health system, combined, are the only practical method to immunize the world's population of billions, against COVID. Any other system could never achieve the speed we have seen; we are approaching 10 billion doses given in just over a year, worldwide. Pre-existing medications may be somewhat effective, but cannot compete on price. The vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are proving to be the most effective against all variants, so far. Even Britain, which developed Astra-Zeneca, and used it extensively, is now purchasing and using Pfizer recently (Astra-Zeneca has been shown to NOT be effective against Omicron).

https://rumble.com/vt62y6-covid-19-a...d-opinion.html

[Sid Belzberg]

Ohhh, I like math.

It appears Ontario site was updated shortly after your visit.

Current ICU numbers:
Unvaccinated 202 ( 47%)
Fully or partially vaccinated 228 (53%)

Current vaccinated rate 84% (fully/partial)

So, correcting for the size of the group.

Unvaccinated 47% of total ICU cases but from just 16% of the population
Partial/fully vaccinated 53% of total ICU cases but from 84% of the population.

Conclusion: Vaccines keep you out of the ICU.

That is all well and good Frank and Bob but when you apply the same logic to the Australian data you get in the article I cited, https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/01/25/fu...eveloping-ade/ here is the result.

"Or putting it another way 787 cases of Omicron cases in NSW in the first week of this year were in unvaxxed and 160,793 were in the singly or doubly or triply vaccinated.
This means that less than half a percent of the cases were in the unvaxxed and more than 99.5% of the cases were in the vaxxed. Now there is a pandemic of the vaccinated for you. Effective dose? Right. Well effective."

In other words, only 1/2 of 1 percent are cases in the non-vaccinated group yet 5% of the population is unvaccinated.

The latest official data from the New South Wales Government in Australia shows that triple/double vaccinated Australians are over ten times more likely to be infected with the alleged Omicron variant of the Covid-19 virus, than Australians who have not been vaccinated

In case you want to attack the messenger, the article gives the links to all the govt sources of data please "debunk it" ...good luck!

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infect...t-20220113.pdf

https://www.covid19data.com.au/vaccine-forecasts
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infect...t-20220120.pdf


https://www.covid19data.com.au/vaccine-forecasts

[Jack G]

That is all well and good Frank and Bob but when you apply the same logic to the Australian data you get in the article I cited, https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/01/25/fu...eveloping-ade/ here is the result.

"Or putting it another way 787 cases of Omicron cases in NSW in the first week of this year were in unvaxxed and 160,793 were in the singly or doubly or triply vaccinated.
This means that less than half a percent of the cases were in the unvaxxed and more than 99.5% of the cases were in the vaxxed. Now there is a pandemic of the vaccinated for you. Effective dose? Right. Well effective."

In other words, only 1/2 of 1 percent are cases in the non-vaccinated group yet 5% of the population is unvaccinated.

The latest official data from the New South Wales Government in Australia shows that triple/double vaccinated Australians are over ten times more likely to be infected with the alleged Omicron variant of the Covid-19 virus, than Australians who have not been vaccinated

In case you want to attack the messenger, the article gives the links to all the govt sources of data please "debunk it" ...good luck!

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infect...t-20220113.pdf

https://www.covid19data.com.au/vaccine-forecasts
https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infect...t-20220120.pdf


https://www.covid19data.com.au/vaccine-forecasts

Those are good links you cited. I'll share one too - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8541492/
This study says that the risk of death from coronavirus is inversely proportional to the amount of vitamin D in the body.
Drink your vitamins :)

[Pargat Perrer]

1) South Africa has been recently reporting a combination of AIDS and COVID-19, apparently. AIDS is still a very serious problem there, as it is in many African countries.
2) Thanks to Bob Gillanders for bringing some sanity to this discussion, with his calculations for Ontario COVID; vaxxed vs. unvaxxed. Sid Belzberg, for all of his amazing patronage and support for Canadian chess (thank you, Sid!), is on the wrong track here with his arguments.
3) Effective vaccines, with a strong public health system, combined, are the only practical method to immunize the world's population of billions, against COVID. Any other system could never achieve the speed we have seen; we are approaching 10 billion doses given in just over a year, worldwide. Pre-existing medications may be somewhat effective, but cannot compete on price. The vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna are proving to be the most effective against all variants, so far. Even Britain, which developed Astra-Zeneca, and used it extensively, is now purchasing and using Pfizer recently (Astra-Zeneca has been shown to NOT be effective against Omicron).

We cannot and should not assume that the story of Covid and the vaccines against it is almost over. Covid itself is still evolving, now there is a sub-variant of Omicron called "Stealth Omicron" and it's just the newest in what will apparently be a long line of variants to come.

Let's keep in mind that just over a year ago, no one was vaccinated and the current vaccines were being rushed through the approval process. With a chemistry as complex as the human body involved, I don't think we can assume anything about these vaccines. We can state only that they have bought us some time. The question is, at what long term price?

I think therefore that any skepticism against the vaccines should be respected. And the unvaccinated should be respected, and their skepticism should be studied throughly. I've heard some people say "I respect the science", but the science of the vaccines is very uncertain to say the least.

As an example, when we are feeling down we may indulge in alchohol to make us feel better. That's where we are with the vaccines right now, feeling better because we are vaccinated. We haven't reached the "morning after" yet, in which there may be a quite unpleasant hangover effect, which no one alive has yet experienced and so we just don't even know what it will entail. Perhaps it will be worse than just unpleasant.

I urge all of us to not treat the science of the vaccines as if it's all been determined. This is an ongoing operation, far from over.

[Erik Malmsten]

There is a new solution that doesn't profit "Big Pharma," getting a conjugate vaccine from Cuba. I hope all you anti mRNA, freedom-loving activists who care about people's health will spread the word through social networks:

https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...box=1643156382

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soberana_02