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  • Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post

    p.s. If your position is that hundreds, if not thousands, of scientists and physicians have been bullied by Big Pharma into being afraid to acknowledge Ivermectin as a miraculous treatment for covid, then your position is ludicrous.
    Peter, let me explain why Sid's position on the abilty of Big Pharma is not ludicrous.
    This is what I have often seen in my day to day work over the last several years:
    Big Pharma sponsors self fulfilling prophecies as 'clinical trials', i.e they compare a group receiving more drugs for more patients for a longer duration to a group receiving nothing (instead of comparing it to a group receiving minimal drugs targeted at selcted patients, till they work (which is usually a short duration). They then have opinion leaders (who are also their paid consultants) go around advocating this success of more drugs for more people for longer durations (hiding the fact that the right question was never asked in the clinical trials), with the audience often being at a posh restaurant busy enjoying a delicious dinner and just putting down the fork and knife momentarily to clap when they hear the opinion leaders say 'this should be practice changing for the welfare of our patients!' Then these same opinion leaders, who are also 'guideline developers', carve the pharma-favoring practice in stone by publishing their guidelines, which is all what many physicians read to help them keep up with the latest developments in practice, and save them from 'malpractice lawsuits'....
    Get it? Doctors are as good as any person in the community, but just like many theologicians have mesmerized all the good people in our communities for centuries, so has big pharma mesmerized doctors...

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    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeWT...l=CanadianGirl
      "Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.

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      • New Canadian two-dose vaccine Covifenz approved. The vaccine's active ingredients consist of particles from plants that “mimic the spike protein of the virus that causes COVID-19.” without containing any of its genetic material - “which makes the person's immune system able to recognize the particles without causing infection.” But not approved for seniors or children.

        https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...cine-1.5794165

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        • Originally posted by Dilip Panjwani View Post
          ...
          Hi Dilip. I do have some comments when I get a few moments. Pending that, just want to say thank you for the book you recommended, The Myth of Capitalism. Really enjoyed it; thought-provoking!
          "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
          "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
          "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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          • https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...tops-us-border
            "Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.

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            • 7 in 10 Covid Deaths in Canada are among the fully vaccinated

              https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/02/15/ca...nt-vaccinated/

              For those of you that have an issue with the messenger here is the data from the Government of Canada's website

              https://health-infobase.canada.ca/sr...-Canada.ca.pdf

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              • Originally posted by Erik Malmsten View Post
                New Canadian two-dose vaccine Covifenz approved. The vaccine's active ingredients consist of particles from plants that “mimic the spike protein of the virus that causes COVID-19.” without containing any of its genetic material - “which makes the person's immune system able to recognize the particles without causing infection.” But not approved for seniors or children.

                https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...cine-1.5794165
                Interesting! Good to see tech starting to get a grip on COVID.

                Covifenz (love the names of these drugs) clinical trials suggested the vaccine - a two-dose series administered on a 21-day interval - was 71 per cent effective in protecting against COVID-19 infection one week after the second dose authorized for use in people aged 18 to 64,

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                • Origin of COVID-19

                  Scientists released a pair of extensive studies on Saturday that point to a market in Wuhan, China, as the origin of the coronavirus pandemic. The two reports, totaling about 150 pages, have not yet been published in a scientific journal.

                  The researchers analyzed data from a range of sources to look for clues to how the pandemic arose. They concluded that the coronavirus was present in live mammals sold in the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in late 2019. The research suggests that the virus very likely twice spilled over into people working or shopping at the market. The researchers said they found no support for an alternate hypothesis that the coronavirus escaped from a lab in Wuhan.


                  https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...d396a4debfd6ce

                  ~ Bob A (T-S/P)

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                  • https://twitter.com/DefiantLs/status...936896/photo/1
                    "Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.

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                    • Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
                      Origin of COVID-19

                      Scientists released a pair of extensive studies on Saturday that point to a market in Wuhan, China, as the origin of the coronavirus pandemic. The two reports, totaling about 150 pages, have not yet been published in a scientific journal.

                      The researchers analyzed data from a range of sources to look for clues to how the pandemic arose. They concluded that the coronavirus was present in live mammals sold in the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market in late 2019. The research suggests that the virus very likely twice spilled over into people working or shopping at the market. The researchers said they found no support for an alternate hypothesis that the coronavirus escaped from a lab in Wuhan.


                      https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...d396a4debfd6ce

                      ~ Bob A (T-S/P)
                      https://youtu.be/sSfejgwbDQ8?t=173

                      Fail harder ... LOL!

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                      • COVID-19 Deaths

                        Are some countries faking their covid-19 death counts?

                        An elementary statistical test casts doubt on some abnormally neat numbers

                        https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...utm_id=1062800

                        Tracking covid-19 excess deaths across countries

                        In many parts of the world, official death tolls undercount the total number of fatalities

                        https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...utm_id=1062800

                        ~ Bob A (T-S/P)
                        Last edited by Bob Armstrong; Saturday, 26th February, 2022, 09:30 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
                          COVID-19 Deaths

                          Are some countries faking their covid-19 death counts?

                          An elementary statistical test casts doubt on some abnormally neat numbers

                          https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...utm_id=1062800

                          Tracking covid-19 excess deaths across countries

                          In many parts of the world, official death tolls undercount the total number of fatalities

                          https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...utm_id=1062800

                          ~ Bob A (T-S/P)
                          Please show me any country during 2020 that shows unusual "excess mortality", growth, spoiler alert: you won't be able to.
                          Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Sunday, 27th February, 2022, 12:08 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
                            7 in 10 Covid Deaths in Canada are among the fully vaccinated

                            https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/02/15/ca...nt-vaccinated/

                            For those of you that have an issue with the messenger here is the data from the Government of Canada's website

                            https://health-infobase.canada.ca/sr...-Canada.ca.pdf
                            The data utilized by your scumbag source (seriously, Sid, The Daily Exposé is the best you've got???) covers one week. In this particular situation (a 2 year pandemic), how relevant are conclusions based on one week of data? Just in case you're thinking of responding with one of your trademark abusive blasts, this is a legitimate question. If you're going to post The Daily Exposé's analysis then people will of course assume that you're doing so because you think it's somehow supportive of your overall position. If that is the case then you should be able to give a coherent answer to my question.

                            Another question: if approx. 80% of Canadians are fully vaccinated (2 doses or more), and if for the sake of argument we say that vaccines offer no protection, then why do the data suggest that the death rate for the unvaccinated is higher than their proportion of the data population (50% higher)?
                            "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
                            "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
                            "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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                            • Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post

                              Please show me any country during 2020 that shows unusual "excess mortality", growth, spoiler alert: you won't be able to.
                              Oh please. Sid, you yourself posted this link on August 6, 2021 about Scotland:

                              https://www.gov.scot/publications/foi-202000128465/

                              The relevant death numbers:
                              • 2016 (full year) - 56,718
                              • 2017 (full year) - 57,872
                              • 2018 (full year) - 58,202
                              • 2019 (full year) - 57,691
                              • 2020 (up to 20th December) - 62,415



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                              • Originally posted by Peter Mckillop
                                The data utilized by your scumbag source
                                Why the inflammatory language Peter? This so called "scumbag source "always has direct posted government data to back up its position. The real "scumbag" source is MSM that has suppressed the truth about early interventions and parrot the pharma narrative of vaccines being the only solutution. MSM always pontificate together with talking head Dr's that have never successfully treated a patient. As for your question, the vaccine's effectiveness wears off very quickly hence the most recent week is far more relevant than 6 months ago when few were vaccinated and they had not yet seen mutants replace the original virus they were designed for. The point of the article is that data has to be ferreted out as the pharma does not like that coming out.

                                The answer to your second question is simple, the unvaccinated population keeps shrinking as they are forced to get vaccinated with threat of job loss etc. Hence as you shrink the population more and more of vaaccinated the proportion becomes greater. The actual risk of them contracting the disease is a separate issue unrelated to a shrinking population in that cohort. We already covered that.
                                Have you read Brian Peckfords article on his website yet about the Trusted News Initiative? You said you would but based on your comments here I doubt it.

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