Anthropogenic Negative Climate Change (ANCC)

[Bob Armstrong]

Farming & Climate Change

1. Organic Farming - Anti-Negative Climate Change

How do farmers help climate change?

Organic farming prohibits most synthetic inputs, which means reduced GHG emissions, as well as cleaner soil, water, and food. Furthermore, organic and sustainable techniques bring additional benefits for farmers, such as increased soil health and fertility, which leads to additional climate-friendly benefits.

https://foodwise.org/articles/10-way...limate-change/

2. Non-Carnivore Directed Farming

Global elimination of meat production could save the planet

https://news.berkeley.edu/2022/02/01...ave-the-planet

3. Agriculture & CO2

a. Greenhouse gas emissions and agriculture

10% of Canada's greenhouse gas emissions are from crop and livestock production, excluding emissions from the use of fossil fuels or from fertilizer production.
The main gases emitted by agricultural activities are:

• Carbon dioxide
• Methane
• Nitrous oxide

Conversely, agriculture helps slow climate change by storing carbon on agricultural lands. Storing, or sequestering, carbon in soil as organic matter, perennial vegetation, and in trees reduces carbon dioxide amounts in the atmosphere.

https://agriculture.canada.ca/en/env...eenhouse-gases

b. The Carbon Cycle

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNLUzqW8IuA

c. Generally Accepted: Carbon is the primary component of all fossil fuels (coal, oil and gas) that we burn to create power. Our growing use of energy has increased the volume of carbon dioxide (CO₂) in the atmosphere through burning fossil fuels. [ There is controversy over whether the amount of CO2 generated by man has a "significant" effect on Climate Change and rising temperature. The Anthropogenicists claim that man is increasing the air CO2 at a rate that is accelerating any "natural" warming of the Earth, due to a current warming cycle we are in.]

4. Elimination of All Farming

In my personal researching, all emphasis is on greater productivity in farming, given climate change, and how farming can reduce its carbon footprint. I have found almost nothing supporting the total elimination of farming, outside of the content provided in Sid Belzberg's Post # 1552 - 23/7/31. I am concerned that Sid gives no sources at all for his position (The one link is to a tweet about depopulation).

5. Farming & Methane

The global climate cult is getting ready to kick its war on food into overdrive with 13 nations – many of them major cattle and food-producing states led by the United States, Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Spain – signing onto a commitment to place farmers under new restrictions intended to reduce emissions of methane gas.

https://forum.chesstalk.com/forum/ch...104#post228065

The headline reads "Abolishing Farming" - this is significant false reporting! "New restrictions" is not "abolishing". This is scare-mongering. The focus re elimination is, as noted above, re carnivore-directed farming.

Bob A (Anthropogenicist)

[Bob Armstrong]

Re Post # 1569 - Dilip Panjwani - 23/8/4

I do not favour the elimination of all farming..........I have severe doubts that is the case.......does it include "Apple Farming"? I wish to eliminate carnivore-directed farming.

But I will re-read Sid's post on "farming & climate change" ( Post 1552 - 23/7/31) in case I do have my facts wrong.

I will return thereafter with my comments on farming and climate change.

Bob A (Anthropogenicist)

[Dilip Panjwani]

3. Those who benefit most from society's systems, in any form of government, must pay the most into the support of the "system". In our current capitalist system, there is nothing illegal about a "wealth" tax, in addition to progressive "income" tax. No one is stealing anything, not the government, not the neighbour. Rather it is a user-pays system, and billionaire's have been shirking (Morally, not legally [The Oligarchs have managed to skew the system to their advantage], usually) their fair payment in.

Bob A (Anthropogenicist)

You are confusing 'legality' with 'rightness'. Slavery and oppression of women was legal till recently, but these were not the right thing to do even when they were legal or constitutional in some countries. If our system is faulty in that it enables some to become unfairly obscenely rich and obscenely powerful, then the right thing to do is change the system, not try to counter it by legalizing theft (direct taxation), or legalizing weaponization of stupid laws... two wrongs never make a right.
Libertarianism is a very inexpensive form of government, and minor indirect taxes would be the appropriate user-pays system...

[Dilip Panjwani]

2. Yes we must eventually eliminate fossil fuels for two reasons: a. pollution; b. they are finite (Renewables, that are "sustainable", as a percentage of our energy source, must increase, and rapidly).


Bob A (Anthropogenicist)

Pollution is already being appropriately taxed with the carbon tax in a rare Libertarian action by governments, and since the renewables are finite, market forces will take care of the transition to renewable energy... your big-government does not need to mess up with that.

[Dilip Panjwani]

1. Agriculture will not be "discontinued". What may have to be discontinued, because of its colossal use of resources, is carnivore-directed farming.


Bob A (Anthropogenicist)

You have not been reading the posts Sid has kindly provided you with, which details how badly European farmers are fighting big-government just to maintain their regular 'vegan' agricultural output...