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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    The Warming Planet

    The Greenhouse Gas Egg Shell/Canopy

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    "Greenhouse gases are those that trap heat in the atmosphere. SF6 and other fluorinated gases can be thousands of times more powerful at warming the planet than carbon dioxide, and yet, because they tend to escape in relatively small amounts, we hardly ever talk about them. Taken alone, their effects might be minor compared with those of carbon dioxide, but together, these gases add significantly to the challenge of addressing climate change."

    https://www.technologyreview.com/202...eid=c1a8ffafd2

    Bob A (Anthropogenicist)
    Bob, it's over. The ocean's temperature drives CO2 concentration, and the other gases, such as methane, are in such small quantities that they are irrelevant despite higher radiative forcing power, as highly credentialed mainstream physicists have already proven in this thread.

    The jig is up. Get over It! Time to peddle your thoroughly debunked, incredibly harmful bullshit elsewhere. One percent (human driven) of .04 percent of "greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere are not a control knob to the climate. We now have reproducible evidence to prove it; Reproducible empirical data is what drives science.
    "Consensus" is something scientifically illiterate journalists and power-hungry ignorant Marxists pretend drive science.

    Even by your own fucked up ideas of "generally accepted," you already accepted the below despite your "best efforts'!

    https://forum.chesstalk.com/forum/ch...867#post228867


    The two seminal papers by distinguished atmospheric physicists, William Happer of the Princeton University Department of Physics and William A. van Wijngaarden of the York University, Canada, Department of Physics and Astronomy prove that Methane and Nitrous Oxide emissions have no statistically meaningful effect on warming hence farming does not have anything to do with climate change.

    Methane and Climate
    Abstract
    Atmospheric methane (CH4 ) contributes to the radiative forcing of Earth’s atmosphere. Radiative forcing is the difference in the net upward thermal radiation from the Earth through a transparent atmosphere and radiation through an otherwise identical atmosphere with greenhouse gases. Radiative forcing, normally specified in Watts per square meter (W m−2), depends on latitude, longitude and altitude, but it is often quoted for a representative temperate latitude and for the altitude of the tropopause, or for the top of the atmosphere. For current concentrations of greenhouse gases, the radiative forcing at the tropopause, per added CH4 molecule, is about 30 times larger than the forcing per added carbon-dioxide (CO2 ) molecule. This is due to the heavy saturation of the absorption band of the abundant greenhouse gas, CO2 . But the rate of increase of CO2 molecules, about 2.3 ppm/year (ppm = part per million), is about 300 times larger than the rate of increase of CH4 molecules, which has been around 0.0076 ppm/year since the year 2008.
    So the contribution of methane to the annual increase in forcing is one tenth (30/300) that of carbon dioxide. The net forcing from CH4 and CO2 increases is about 0.05 W m−2 year−1. Other things being equal, this will cause a temperature increase of about 0.012 C year−1. Proposals to place harsh restrictions on methane emissions because of warming fears are not justified by facts

    https://co2coalition.org/wp-content/...rous-Oxide.pdf


    Nitrous Oxide and Climate


    C. A. de Lange1, J. D. Ferguson2, W. Happer3, and W. A. van Wijngaarden4

    1Atomic, Molecular and Laser Physics, Vrije Universiteit, De Boelelaan 1081, 1081 HV Amsterdam, The Netherlands
    2University of Pennsylvania School of Veterinary Medicine, USA 3Department of Physics, Princeton University, USA
    4Department of Physics and Astronomy, York University, Canada

    November 10, 2022

    Abstract

    Higher concentrations of atmospheric nitrous oxide (N2O) are expected to slightly warm Earth’s surface because of increases in radiative forcing. Radiative forcing is the difference in the net upward thermal radiation flux from the Earth through a transparent atmosphere and radiation through an otherwise identical atmosphere with greenhouse gases. Radiative forcing, normally measured in W m−2, depends on lati- tude, longitude and altitude, but it is often quoted for the tropopause, about 11 km of altitude for temperate latitudes, or for the top of the atmosphere at around 90 km. For current concentrations of greenhouse gases, the radiative forcing per added N2O molecule is about 230 times larger than the forcing per added carbon dioxide (CO2) molecule. This is due to the heavy saturation of the absorption band of the relatively abundant greenhouse gas, CO2, compared to the much smaller saturation of the absorption bands of the trace greenhouse gas N2O. But the rate of increase of CO2 molecules, about 2.5 ppm/year (ppm = part per million by mole), is about 3000 times larger than the rate of increase of N2O molecules, which has held steady at around 0.00085 ppm/year since the year 1985. So, the contribution of nitrous oxide to the annual increase in forcing is 230/3000 or about 1/13 that of CO2. If the main greenhouse gases, CO2, CH4 and N2O have contributed about 0.1 C/decade of the warming observed over the past few decades, this would correspond to about 0.00064 K per year or 0.064 K per century of warming from N2O.
    Proposals to place harsh restrictions on nitrous oxide emissions because of warming fears are not justified by these facts. Restrictions would cause serious harm; for example, by jeopardizing world food supplies.

    https://co2coalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/Nitrous-Oxide.pdf

    https://forum.chesstalk.com/forum/chesstalk-s-non-chess-discussion-board/217060-anthropogenic-negative-climate-change-ancc?p=228341#post228341


    Sid (Naturalist)
    Who is sick of "useful idiot" Marxists promoting the Genocidal agenda of Globalists
    Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Friday, 6th September, 2024, 09:34 AM.

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    The Warming Planet

    The Greenhouse Gas Egg Shell/Canopy

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    "Greenhouse gases are those that trap heat in the atmosphere. SF6 and other fluorinated gases can be thousands of times more powerful at warming the planet than carbon dioxide, and yet, because they tend to escape in relatively small amounts, we hardly ever talk about them. Taken alone, their effects might be minor compared with those of carbon dioxide, but together, these gases add significantly to the challenge of addressing climate change."

    https://www.technologyreview.com/202...eid=c1a8ffafd2

    Bob A (Anthropogenicist)

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    Should you do the right thing, even when you know that if you do the wrong thing, it is statistically irrelevant (& I haven't bought this argument yet)?

    And it does appear true that increased atmospheric CO2 brings more problems than benefits (e.g. the creation of the non-porous canopy of greenhouse gases around the Earth).

    Bob A
    Virtue signaling is a luxury we can not afford.

    1) Money earmarked for big batteries, high-voltage transmission lines,
    and wind turbines can now be diverted into health, improved living
    standards, and elimination of poverty.

    2) Legions of climate grifters can now spend their time in productive endeavors.

    3) We won’t have to kill wildlife by destroying their native habitat by constructing wind turbines.

    4) The little children will no longer have to be scared.

    5) Carbon tax can be eliminated, and money can be allocated to enable people to start their businesses.

    I can go on, but I am sure you catch my drift; this is a time to
    rejoice and go back to cheap energy and prosperity.
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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Should you do the right thing, even when you know that if you do the wrong thing, it is statistically irrelevant (& I haven't bought this argument yet)?

    And it does appear true that increased atmospheric CO2 brings more problems than benefits (e.g. the creation of the non-porous canopy of greenhouse gases around the Earth).

    Bob A

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Negative Climate Change

    Rising Temperatures

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    Asia - Japan

    "This summer tied with last year’s for Japan’s hottest on record, with the three months between June and August being 1.76 degrees Celsius hotter than average, the Meteorological Agency said Monday.

    The second-hottest summer was in 2010, when it was 1.08 C higher than average, illustrating the extent of the heat this year and last as well as the upward creep in temperatures due to climate change. National records began in 1898."

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...nxwriy1yx8hu3g

    Note: Hottest July on Record: most number of "extremely hot days" (35 C+) for a July.

    Bob A (Anthropogenicist)
    Bob, I have good news for you: a new paper debunks the climate alarmist view that human-driven CO2 has any impact whatsoever on atmospheric
    carbon dioxide increase, the sea rules!


    Multivariate Analysis Rejects the Theory of Human-caused Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide Increase: The Sea Surface Temperature Rules

    Dai Ato Independent researcher, Osaka, Japan ORCID:0000-0002-6049-5039

    Abstract The impact of certain factors on the changes in atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO₂) concentrations has yet to be elucidated. In particular, the impacts of sea surface temperature (SST) on the balance of CO₂ emissions and absorption in the atmosphere and the human use of fossil fuels have not been rigorously compared. In this study, the impact of each factor was examined using multivariate analysis. Publicly available data from prominent climate research and energy-related organizations were used. Multiple linear regression analysis was performed using the annual changes in atmospheric CO₂ levels for each year as the objective variable. The SST and human emissions for each year were the explanatory factors. After 1959, the model using the SST derived from NASA best represented the annual CO₂ increase (regression coefficient B = 2.406, P < 0.0002, model R² = 0.663, P < 7e-15). However, human emissions were not a determining factor in any of the regression models. Furthermore, the atmospheric CO₂ concentration predicted, using the regression equation obtained for the SST derived from UK-HADLEY centre after 1960, showed an extremely high correlation with the actual CO₂ concentration (Pearson correlation coefficient r = 0.9995, P < 3e-92). The difference was 1.45 ppm in 2022. In conclusion, this study is the first to use multiple regression analysis to demonstrate that the independent determinant of the annual increase in atmospheric CO₂ concentration was SST, which showed strong predictive ability. However, human CO₂ emissions were irrelevant. This result indicates that atmospheric CO₂ has fluctuated as natural phenomenon, regardless of human activity.

    https://scienceofclimatechange.org/wp-content/uploads/SCC-Ato-Multivariate-Analysis-Vol.4.2.pdf
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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Negative Climate Change

    Rising Temperatures

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    Asia - Japan

    "This summer tied with last year’s for Japan’s hottest on record, with the three months between June and August being 1.76 degrees Celsius hotter than average, the Meteorological Agency said Monday.

    The second-hottest summer was in 2010, when it was 1.08 C higher than average, illustrating the extent of the heat this year and last as well as the upward creep in temperatures due to climate change. National records began in 1898."

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/20...nxwriy1yx8hu3g

    Note: Hottest July on Record: most number of "extremely hot days" (35 C+) for a July.

    Bob A (Anthropogenicist)

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  • Bob Armstrong
    replied
    Negative Climate Change

    Rising Temperatures

    Asia - Japan

    Hottest July on Record: most number of "extremely hot days" (35 C+) for a July.

    Bob A (Anthropogenicist)

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Negative Climate Change

    Rising Temperatures

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    "But what stunned scientists wasn’t the temperature of the hottest day ever recorded, which was up slightly from last year, it was how much hotter than usual it’s been during the rest of the year, between these two summer peaks. Instead of returning to something close to normal, average global surface temperatures have remained stubbornly high for more than a year now."

    The New York Times - Climate Forward Newsletter - 24/7/28
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/25/c...d396a4debfd6ce

    Bob A (Anthropogenicist)



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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    Americas - USA

    Climbing Heat


    "Nobody’s Moving to US ‘Climate Havens.’ The Federal Government Could Help

    Millions of Americans are migrating to cities that are exposed to higher risk of extreme heat, flooding and hurricanes. We need a plan to turn them around, now."

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n=citylabdaily

    Bob A (Anthropogenicist
    There is more than enough information (including misinformation) all around on potential climate disasters, etc. for citizens to see. And they are very capable of making decisions that are best for them. So let us keep the dirty hand of stupid 'government' out of this, please...
    Last edited by Dilip Panjwani; Sunday, 14th July, 2024, 02:22 PM.

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Americas - USA

    Climbing Heat


    "Nobody’s Moving to US ‘Climate Havens.’ The Federal Government Could Help

    Millions of Americans are migrating to cities that are exposed to higher risk of extreme heat, flooding and hurricanes. We need a plan to turn them around, now."

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n=citylabdaily

    Bob A (Anthropogenicist)
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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Earth's Heat Problem

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    "Global average temperatures have now hit or exceeded a key climate threshold for 12 months, highlighting the challenge in limiting the planet’s warming to below 1.5 degrees Celsius above the pre-industrial era. The average for the year through June 2024 was 1.64C higher than the era from 1850 to 1900, the European Union’s Copernicus Climate Change Service said today. This past June was the 13th consecutive time a month has set a new average temperature record."

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsl...m_campaign=bop

    Is this just nature cycling? And even if it is, over eons, should man reduce his participation in causing the rise, or just ignore the whole issue?

    Bob A (Anthropogenicist)
    LOL!!!!!
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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Earth's Heat Problem

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    "Global average temperatures have now hit or exceeded a key climate threshold for 12 months, highlighting the challenge in limiting the planet’s warming to below 1.5 degrees Celsius above the pre-industrial era. The average for the year through June 2024 was 1.64C higher than the era from 1850 to 1900, the European Union’s Copernicus Climate Change Service said today. This past June was the 13th consecutive time a month has set a new average temperature record."

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsl...m_campaign=bop

    Is this just nature cycling? And even if it is, over eons, should man reduce his participation in causing the rise, or just ignore the whole issue?

    Bob A (Anthropogenicist)

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  • Pargat Perrer
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    Could Florida experience the next Brazilian level of floods?

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/weather/topstories/desantis-declares-state-of-emergency-as-life-threatening-rainfall-and-flooding-hits-florida/ar-BB1oaRM1

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    The Tampa Bay area was also drenched by eight inches (20cm) of rain in three hours, a rare event expected once every 500 to 1,000 years."

    Personally I say, sock it to 'em.

    Florida goes red, they need to learn their lesson, same as Texas. I love seeing these red states get SWAMPED by climate change, which they deny is happening.

    Wanna buy a house in Florida? guess what, no house insurance will be available to you. Roll those dice, rednecks!.

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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    2023 & Canadian Wildfires

    "Last year was the most devastating and destructive season of forest fires in Canada’s recorded history, sparked by record-high temperatures, extreme weather, and droughts. The impacts were felt from coast to coast. More than 150,000 people faced evacuation orders, and even in cities far away from the actual fires, dense smoke choked the air for days and weeks at a time."

    The Resolve Newsletter (24/6/7)

    Bob A (Anthropogenicist)
    Don't forget that many of these were deliberately started, and there was shameful delay in action to put them off, along with alarming ineptitude of the 'government' (one of the few responsibilities governments are meant to focus on) in prevention and extinguishing of the fires... In some cases they decided to let the fires keep on burning, and not take any action to put them off...
    Last edited by Dilip Panjwani; Saturday, 8th June, 2024, 12:22 AM.

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    2023 & Canadian Wildfires

    "Last year was the most devastating and destructive season of forest fires in Canada’s recorded history, sparked by record-high temperatures, extreme weather, and droughts. The impacts were felt from coast to coast. More than 150,000 people faced evacuation orders, and even in cities far away from the actual fires, dense smoke choked the air for days and weeks at a time."

    The Resolve Newsletter (24/6/7)

    Bob A (Anthropogenicist)

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