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What is wrong with government taking an equity position with the workers?
The 'Government' is an employee.
It is employed by the people. NOT employed by itself.
Without getting too technical for you Pargat ... entrepreneurs are the heart and soul of democracy. They bring ideas to life. Take all the risk. They hire workers. Workers do NOT hire the entrepreneur nor take the risk.
Control of an idea belongs to the entrepreneur, obviously. Workers do the work the entrepreneur provides them to do.
Government is an employee. They are NOT overlords.
Democracy protects the rights and freedoms of the Individual. One person at a time. That includes the entrepreneur.
NOT the collective and NOT the government.
Sorry to dummy this down, Dilip but some folks just don't understand their places in our world.
It's easy to dummy things down if you are in fact the dummy.
Government is not an employee. Voters only vote for or against candidates, they do not give orders to the government. They can only send requests to the government. If you want government to be an employee, you need a different political system.
You Neil say government is an employee, yet Sid says in post #60 of this thread that government does what it pleases. Who is the dummy?
And even if government WERE to be portrayed as an employee ... they have multiple means at their disposal to carry out the wishes of the voters. One of those means is to invest in enterprises along with the workers of that enterprise.
So the question remains for Dilip, what is wrong with that? Neil has done nothing to answer the question, he has only muddied the water as he likes to do.
"It's become very clear there is a depopulation agenda: "The people behind the climate scare are Malthusians. this idea that MAN is a pest, a plague on the Earth. One of the phrases they use is "Earth has a cancer and the cancer is man."
Government Role - Intervention - Dealing with Climate Change Issue - Are Capitalist Gov'ts a Hindrance?
Americas - USA
"This is just what the climate activists wanted.
The White House is delaying a decision about approving a new natural gas megaproject, as my colleague Coral Davenport exclusively reported yesterday, in order to more fully consider its impact on the climate.
The contentious Calcasieu Pass 2 project, known as CP2, would allow the United States — already the worlds’ biggest natural gas exporter — to ship much more liquefied natural gas overseas. Climate activists have rallied for months to block the project on the Louisiana coast, arguing that it would lock in dependence on fossil fuels beyond what the climate can bear.
“I’m super excited and ecstatic,” said Roishetta Ozane, an activist based in Louisiana, where the project would be located. “CP2 is a carbon time bomb.” "
Under a Marxist government, the people are smart enough to know that enterprise matters. So they instruct the government to assist the Marxist entrepreneurs in start-ups that have potential. Business is the economy.
So the gov't carries out the will of the people by non-exploitative loans (realistic and modest interest rate) or by taking up an equity position and becoming partners with the workers. This is totally up to the entrepreneurs. And if the start-up is successful as a private/public enterprise, then the profit earned by the government gets recycled for the people in the form of more money for the government bank to make available to the future entrepreneurs.
The system is logical, fair and will be successful!
Under a Marxist government, the people are smart enough to know that enterprise matters. So they instruct the government to assist the Marxist entrepreneurs in start-ups that have potential. Business is the economy.
So the gov't carries out the will of the people by non-exploitative loans (realistic and modest interest rate) or by taking up an equity position and becoming partners with the workers. This is totally up to the entrepreneurs. And if the start-up is successful as a private/public enterprise, then the profit earned by the government gets recycled for the people in the form of more money for the government bank to make available to the future entrepreneurs.
The system is logical, fair and will be successful!
What is wrong with government taking an equity position with the workers? .
What is wrong with government taking an equity position with the workers?
The 'Government' is an employee.
It is employed by the people. NOT employed by itself.
Without getting too technical for you Pargat ... entrepreneurs are the heart and soul of democracy. They bring ideas to life. Take all the risk. They hire workers. Workers do NOT hire the entrepreneur nor take the risk.
Control of an idea belongs to the entrepreneur, obviously. Workers do the work the entrepreneur provides them to do.
Government is an employee. They are NOT overlords.
Democracy protects the rights and freedoms of the Individual. One person at a time. That includes the entrepreneur.
NOT the collective and NOT the government.
Sorry to dummy this down, Dilip but some folks just don't understand their places in our world.
Start-Up capital will be by government taking an equity position with the workers.
THAT WILL SPELL THE MARXIST DISASTER...
Can you elaborate on this? I know Dilip you normally don't like to elaborate, you like to just make inflammatory statements against anything left of center politically, but his one really demands further explanation.
What is wrong with government taking an equity position with the workers? I'm thinking this happened with Poland in the past decades and now Poland is becoming an economic powerhouse in Europe.
Democratic Marxist Government - Best on Climate Change
National Parties Need to be Established and then win the VOTE to be able to best manage Negative Climate Change
[Jane Goodall,] the celebrated primatologist, thinks governments around the globe are not working hard enough to combat climate change. And in a year when more than 40 countries — including the United States, India and South Africa — will be electing their leaders, Goodall is telling anyone who will listen that the health of Earth itself is on the ballot.
Jane Goodall is a fan of depopulation based on long-debunked Malthusian theories that the Nazis and their 21st-century version of the WEF and its WHO/UN
affiliates not only promote but have been doing a great job of executing. Consider Sri Lanka's destruction of agriculture all in the name of WEF climate change.
Very similar to Stalin's collective farming and induced artificial famine of the early 1930s.
Primatologist Dame Jane Goodall has warned that human population growth is damaging the planet's future.
Goodall said that United Nations figures showed that in the last 50 years the global population has doubled to 7.8bn and is expected to increase to 11.2bn by 2100.
In a message to the 2019 Population Matters conference, she said: “I would encourage every single conservation organisation, every single government organisation to consider the absurdity of unlimited economic development on a planet of finite natural resources.
“We can't go on like this. We can't push human population growth under the carpet.“ Dame Jane added that empowering women and girls was key to addressing unsustainable population growth.
She said: “It's been shown all around the world that as women's education improves family size tends to drop.“
Population Matters campaigners want action to reduce human population growth by voluntary means included in the post-2020 Convention on Biodiversity.
Democratic Marxist Government - Best on Climate Change
National Parties Need to be Established, and then win the VOTE for being able to best manage Negative Climate Change
[Jane Goodall,] the celebrated primatologist, thinks governments around the globe are not working hard enough to combat climate change. And in a year when more than 40 countries — including the United States, India and South Africa — will be electing their leaders, Goodall is telling anyone who will listen that the health of Earth itself is on the ballot.
"Many of us worry about crime, fearing that it rises inexorably and we are ever likelier to be its victims. Politicians of all stripes encourage such anxiety, promising to be tough on criminals and delivering their just punishments. But in fact, our era is the safest and least violent in human history. We are less likely to killed, assaulted, or otherwise physically harmed today than ever before.
For other kinds of offenses, such improvement is less clear. Today we have more ways of violating the law and therefore more potential crimes than earlier. We are wealthier and therefore own more things that may be stolen. New technologies bring new crimes. The most common offense is now the robocall — committed an estimated 180 million times daily in the U.S. alone. But these are not the sort of violations that keep us awake at night."
.....the city-state model is one kind of "Local Political Unit" system. It also was the system in Italy until Garibaldi united them.
And the issue, to me, is why was it seen by these city-states that bigger was better? And.......was the view reasonable at the time? But, now, with nuclear arms, it should be "small is beautiful"?
Democratic Marxism is NOT extreme.......it is a very balanced system, when one looks at all the prior documents posted here! My friends, once they have read my materials, express surprise that the policies are quite reasonable and logical. No rifles in the background falsifying any voting......
Bob A (Dem. Marxist)
Marxist LPUs cannot survive, as lack of entrepreneurs means very little productivity and lacking fulfillment of diverse needs. Also, Marxists always have their eyes on other people's money, and so the poorer 50% will demand to join with the richer 50%, and then the poorer half of the amalgamated units would again demand to join the richer half... and so on and so forth... till everything ends up in one big lousy mess of a unit!
You are dead on........the city-state model is one kind of "Local Political Unit" system. It also was the system in Italy until Garibaldi united them.
And the issue, to me, is why was it seen by these city-states that bigger was better? And.......was the view reasonable at the time? But, now, with nuclear arms, it should be "small is beautiful"?
You are also right, IMHO, that Democratic Marxism is NOT extreme.......it is a very balanced system, when one looks at all the prior documents posted here! My friends, once they have read my materials, express surprise that the policies are quite reasonable and logical. No rifles in the background falsifying any voting......
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