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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Democracy & Diversity

    Democratic Marxism Discussion Paper # 4

    Note: cyclically re-posted for the benefit of new DMGI members, DM-G viewers, and DMGF members/viewers.


    The Gamble

    Democratic Marxism sets out a platform of self-governance and economics. And it sets up a fundamental structure within which this platform can be implemented. But what happens when ideology meets the local democracy of the Local Political Unit (LPU)?

    The problem old-style Communism faced was the revolt of many (Majority?) electors to many of the Communist platforms. Communism's answer? Use the gun; trample human rights of the citizens; suppress all opposition – then implement the ideology & platform without any public opposition. Did it really work?? The jury is still out on Chinese Communism, but it has all the negative features that necessitate its rejection.

    What will be Democratic Marxism's answer when an LPU wants to go its own way, differently somehow, democratically? The problem is that DM proudly declares that the LPU's have all power! They have the real control! Democratic Marxism's Global Model LPU can be tweaked by any LPU, or even outright rejected for itself!

    This is where Democratic Marxism has to walk the walk, not just talk the talk. It is committed first to “democratic process” and “local power”.

    Human society is governed by laws. Laws are passed by the governing authority, whether it be by direct democracy (Citizen voting), or, by the representation circle to which the electors have given power over their lives. And if the system is working, and Dem. Marxism has it right, each LPU, hopefully, will implement laws modelled after the proposals of the Democratic Marxist Vetting Committee (DMVC). But should an LPU, within its borders, decide to revert to Wildwest Capitalism, this will be legal........but, hopefully, the effect of such rogue actions will be limited and minimized and restrained by the general structural governing context within which every LPU exists. Diversity will definitely be the order of the day in a true democracy – and maybe one should support the saying used financially: There is safety in diversity.

    A Suitable Test Nation for DM

    The DMVC has targeted Canada for the first partisan Democratic Marxist Party......and it will be provincial.

    The reason is the possibility of fundamental societal structure change within the existing Canadian Constitutional documents. Canada presents the possibility because constitutionally, municipalities are the “creatures” of a province. It is therefore open to a Canadian province to realign local government as currently existing, into the DM LPU structure. The province also has, constitutionally, full jurisdiction over certain civil powers, as against the federal government (Eg. Health Care, Education, etc.). So.....IF it was determined to do it........any Canadian province could “down-load” all of its powers to the LPU's. Thereafter it would identify itself in two ways:
    1. as the hand-maiden of the LPU's, while remaining, as a provincial representative circle of the provincial electors;
    2. as the traditional province with which the federal government must deal within the existing constitutional structure of Canada.

      The federal government may object to the provincial restructuring, but will be toothless....it is within the provincial power of a Canadian province to do this. And the federal government will have to continue to deal with that province as the valid “Provincial Government”.

      Commencement of Partisan Democratic Marxism in Canada

    The DMVC will receive applications from those wishing to apply for provincial party status as: The Democratic Marxist Party of (Province). For those ideologically acceptable, the DMVC will grant a formal “Endorsement” - the approval of the ginger group's use of the name.

    Thereafter, the provincial party will develop a provincial DM platform suitable to their province, in concert with the DMVC.

    Should the Provincial Party at any time stray from adhering to fundamental DM principles/platforms, it risks the DMVC withdrawing the “Endorsement”, and disowning the Provincial Party. Of course, the DMVC may still consider itself an ally of the rogue party, and see it as still the best provincial option, and thus continue to work with the provincial party, should it so desire.


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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Brain dead idiot
    Like I said, Sid, do you really want to continue losing like this
    Your outlier study from a hospital with superbugs everywhere proves NOTHING. Your case for bacterial pneumonia BACKFIRED, not caused AT ALL by masks! You are batting .000 .
    Outlier study????? And so says the brain-dead idiot that considers the Cochrane database a "rightwing conspiracy theory," and Nature magazine is also a dubious publication? Of course, you are the one who says you have no problem with viewing "mankind as cancer." Such a great service you are providing to CTers.with these statements.!
    As I said, up your game and wear a plastic bag tightly over your face and nose. Why stop at 25000 PPM of CO2 (5000 PPM is considered toxic) when wearing a mask after five minutes! Please do the world a favor! After you bro!

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-15409-x


    Bacterial and fungal isolation from face masks under the COVID-19 pandemic
    Scientific Reports volume 12, Article number: 11361 (2022) Cite this articleAbstract


    The COVID-19 pandemic has led people to wear face masks daily in public. Although the effectiveness of face masks against viral transmission has been extensively studied, there have been few reports on potential hygiene issues due to bacteria and fungi attached to the face masks. We aimed to (1) quantify and identify the bacteria and fungi attaching to the masks, and (2) investigate whether the mask-attached microbes could be associated with the types and usage of the masks and individual lifestyles. We surveyed 109 volunteers on their mask usage and lifestyles, and cultured bacteria and fungi from either the face-side or outer-side of their masks. The bacterial colony numbers were greater on the face-side than the outer-side; the fungal colony numbers were fewer on the face-side than the outer-side. A longer mask usage significantly increased the fungal colony numbers but not the bacterial colony numbers. Although most identified microbes were non-pathogenic in humans; Staphylococcus epidermidis, Staphylococcus aureus, and Cladosporium, we found several pathogenic microbes; Bacillus cereus, Staphylococcus saprophyticus, Aspergillus, and Microsporum. We also found no associations of mask-attached microbes with the transportation methods or gargling. We propose that immunocompromised people should avoid repeated use of masks to prevent microbial infection.
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    New insights into the standard method of assessing bacterial filtration efficiency of medical face masks

    Article Open access15 March 2021Filtration efficiency of medical and community face masks using viral and bacterial bioaerosols

    Article Open access02 May 2023Development of a novel self-sanitizing mask prototype to combat the spread of infectious disease and reduce unnecessary waste

    Article Open access14 September 2021Introduction


    The rapid global spread of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) and the resulting coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic have led to urgent efforts to prevent the viral transmission. The most traditional and reasonable method to prevent respiratory infections is to wear face masks; several research groups have demonstrated its effectiveness against the respiratory viral transmission before the COVID-19 pandemic1,2. During the COVID-19 pandemic, increasing lines of evidence have supported the effectiveness of wearing face masks against SARS-CoV-2 and the droplets3,4. However, the World Health Organization (WHO) claims that face masks are effective only when used with hand hygiene, the proper use, and disposal of masks5.

    Three types of face masks are commercially available for daily lives in Japan: (1) non-woven, (2) polyurethane, and (3) gauze or cloth masks (Fig. 1a,b). Non-woven masks are commonly used worldwide to prevent droplet infections by most respiratory microbes, including SARS-CoV-2 (Fig. 1c). Polyurethane masks have been used to protect against hay fever, particularly in Asian countries. Since polyurethane masks are easy to breathe and washable, the masks have become popular and have been reused several times during the COVID-19 pandemic. Although gauze masks are less popular, the masks can be washed, reused, and effectively prevent infections. Thus, the Japanese government distributed gauze masks to all citizens because of the shortage of non-woven masks during the early stage of the COVID-19 pandemic.
    Figure 1
    Face mask types and the sizes of microbes. (a) Macroscopic and microscopic images of three different types of face masks that are commercially available. Non-woven masks have three layers: the pore size of the outer and inner layers are identical (50–150 µm); the pore size of the middle layer (considered as a filter) is smaller (5–30 µm). Microscopic images were taken by the Olympus Microscope CX33 with the CCD Camera DP22 (bar = 500 µm). (b) Pore size, thickness, layer, and intended use of three mask types. The pore size of face masks from manufacturers’ instruction was confirmed using the microscopic images shown in (a) (right panels). (c) The standard size of microbes and particles (left panel) and their comparisons with the pore size (5 µm) of the middle filter of non-woven masks (right schema).

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    Although the effectiveness of face masks against viral transmission has been extensively studied3,4, the hygiene issues in mask usage remain unclear. The standard mask usage is disposable non-woven masks. In some cases, however, people may use non-woven masks repeatedly or use different types of masks in different situations depending on their socioeconomic cultures. For example, in Japan, the short supply of non-woven masks led to the repeated use of disposable non-woven masks and the use of other types of face masks, such as handmade masks and polyurethane masks6. Even after the shortage of mask supply has been resolved, some people have used disposable non-woven masks repeatedly or other types of face masks.

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  • Pargat Perrer
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    Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post

    Ahh...another pearl of wisdom from our medically ignorant brain-dead idiot. Where exactly do you think the bacteria came from? Bacterial contamination of masks is a huge problem today as it was then. Here is a NIH study showing bacterial contamination of masks as a problem, moron. In 1918, they did not have the knowledge to study this but the hypothesis is not only plausible but, based on today's studies, likely.
    Please, by all means, follow the WEF-controlled MSM's dictates. Enjoy your meals of insects laced with toxic spike proteins and wear three masks around your filthy mouth and nose as. tight as possible 24 hours a day! I mean, while you are at it, since you have no problem viewing all of us as a "cancer," you could up your game and put a plastic bag over your head and do the planet a favor! After you bro!


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9883076/


    Evaluation of the bacterial contamination of face masks worn by personnel in a center of COVID 19 hospitalized patients: A cross-sectional studyAs a library, NLM provides access to scientific literature. Inclusion in an NLM database does not imply endorsement of, or agreement with, the contents by NLM or the National Institutes of Health.
    Learn more: PMC Disclaimer | PMC Copyright NoticeNew Microbes New Infect. 2023 Mar; 52: 101090.
    Published online 2023 Jan 28. doi: 10.1016/j.nmni.2023.101090
    PMCID: PMC9883076
    PMID: 36744172Evaluation of the bacterial contamination of face masks worn by personnel in a center of COVID 19 hospitalized patients: A cross-sectional study

    Milad Yousefimashouf,aRasoul Yousefimashouf,b,cMohammad Sina Alikhani,eHamid Hashemi,dPezhman Karami,dZahra Rahimi,c and Seyed Mostafa Hosseinic,d,
    Author information Article notes Copyright and License information PMC Disclaimer
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    Background


    During the Coronavirus Pandemic, the use of masks has increased significantly. The lack of control on hygiene protocols and the need to use PPE properly increases the spread of bacterial infection. The purpose of this study was to investigate the degree of contamination and frequency of bacterial species isolated from surgical and N95 masks used by hospital personnel.
    Methods


    A total number of 175 masks were collected from staff working in Sina hospital (Hamadan province, Iran) during the first six months of 2022. The bacterial contamination of masks were evaluated and identified using biochemical kits. Antimicrobial susceptibility testing of the isolates were done using Kirby-Bauer methods and MIC were assessed for each isolate against different disinfectants (Sodium hypochlorite 5%, Hydrogen Peroxide 3%, Ethanol 70% and Deconex).
    Results


    Of 175 masks, 471 bacterial isolates were detected including 9 species. The most prevalent strain were Coagulase negative Staphylococcus (28%) followed by Acinetobacter (20.8%) and Pseudomonas (13.8%), while, Klebsiealla and Enterococcus were the least frequent species with the rate of 3.8% and 1.2%, respectively. The results of MIC methods indicated that all 471 strains were resistant to ehtanol70% and sensitive to hydrogen peroxide 3%. Furthermore, the mean average of Deconex inhibitory effect is lower than Sodium hypochlorite 5%.

    Conclusions


    According to the results of this study, there was a high prevalence of CoNS, Acinetobacter and Pseudomonas in hospital with a high resistance pattern against antibiotics especially Ampicillin and disinfectants.
    Really going desperado now, aren't you Sid?

    Finding some outlier study done in a hospital setting .... where, guess what, overuse of antibiotics has resulted in antibiotic-resistant strains of bacteria circulating throughout such hospitals. The study even mentions that the strains are antibiotic-resistant.

    So yeah, there's antibiotic-resistant bacteria on the masks because in such a hospital, such bacteria can multiply unrestricted because they are resistant to everything. So OF COURSE the masks will show such bacteria! DUH!

    My own mother died from antibiotic-resistant bacteria ("superbug") while she was in hospital for hip surgery. It's a big problem in hospitals throughout the world because they use antibiotics to extreme measures and the bacteria IN THE HOSPITALS have grown resistant to everything. Talk about population reduction, these superbugs are escaping the hospitals and will in the near future cause mass deaths as has been warned about for decades.


    Like I said, Sid, do you really want to continue losing like this?

    Your outlier study from a hospital with superbugs everywhere proves NOTHING. Your case for bacterial pneumonia BACKFIRED, not caused AT ALL by masks! You are batting .000 .

    Just go to your survival bunker and do some tequila shots and lick your wounds, you egotistical blowhard. You rail against others for using tricks and then turn around and use the same tricks yourself and think you can get away with it. I'm happy to be of service to CT readers and show them just how hypocritical you are. In addition to hijacking this thread as soon as I brought up what I will keep mentioning again and again to embarrass you and Dilip, the fact that the world's richest billionaires want governments to tax them more!

    The world's richest billionaires want governments to tax them more!
    The world's richest billionaires want governments to tax them more!
    The world's richest billionaires want governments to tax them more!

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Brain dead idiot
    NOTHING ABOUT MASK WEARING! Your mask hypothesis DESTROYED. You are a spreader of fake news!


    Ahh...another pearl of wisdom from our medically ignorant brain-dead idiot. Where exactly do you think the bacteria came from? Bacterial contamination of masks is a huge problem today as it was then. Here is a NIH study showing bacterial contamination of masks as a problem, moron. In 1918, they did not have the knowledge to study this but the hypothesis is not only plausible but, based on today's studies, likely.
    Please, by all means, follow the WEF-controlled MSM's dictates. Enjoy your meals of insects laced with toxic spike proteins and wear three masks around your filthy mouth and nose as. tight as possible 24 hours a day! I mean, while you are at it, since you have no problem viewing all of us as a "cancer," you could up your game and put a plastic bag over your head and do the planet a favor! After you bro!


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9883076/


    Evaluation of the bacterial contamination of face masks worn by personnel in a center of COVID 19 hospitalized patients: A cross-sectional studyAs a library, NLM provides access to scientific literature. Inclusion in an NLM database does not imply endorsement of, or agreement with, the contents by NLM or the National Institutes of Health.
    Learn more: PMC Disclaimer | PMC Copyright NoticeNew Microbes New Infect. 2023 Mar; 52: 101090.
    Published online 2023 Jan 28. doi: 10.1016/j.nmni.2023.101090
    PMCID: PMC9883076
    PMID: 36744172Evaluation of the bacterial contamination of face masks worn by personnel in a center of COVID 19 hospitalized patients: A cross-sectional study

    Milad Yousefimashouf,aRasoul Yousefimashouf,b,cMohammad Sina Alikhani,eHamid Hashemi,dPezhman Karami,dZahra Rahimi,c and Seyed Mostafa Hosseinic,d,
    Author information Article notes Copyright and License information PMC Disclaimer
    Go to:Abstract

    Background


    During the Coronavirus Pandemic, the use of masks has increased significantly. The lack of control on hygiene protocols and the need to use PPE properly increases the spread of bacterial infection. The purpose of this study was to investigate the degree of contamination and frequency of bacterial species isolated from surgical and N95 masks used by hospital personnel.
    Methods


    A total number of 175 masks were collected from staff working in Sina hospital (Hamadan province, Iran) during the first six months of 2022. The bacterial contamination of masks were evaluated and identified using biochemical kits. Antimicrobial susceptibility testing of the isolates were done using Kirby-Bauer methods and MIC were assessed for each isolate against different disinfectants (Sodium hypochlorite 5%, Hydrogen Peroxide 3%, Ethanol 70% and Deconex).
    Results


    Of 175 masks, 471 bacterial isolates were detected including 9 species. The most prevalent strain were Coagulase negative Staphylococcus (28%) followed by Acinetobacter (20.8%) and Pseudomonas (13.8%), while, Klebsiealla and Enterococcus were the least frequent species with the rate of 3.8% and 1.2%, respectively. The results of MIC methods indicated that all 471 strains were resistant to ehtanol70% and sensitive to hydrogen peroxide 3%. Furthermore, the mean average of Deconex inhibitory effect is lower than Sodium hypochlorite 5%.

    Conclusions


    According to the results of this study, there was a high prevalence of CoNS, Acinetobacter and Pseudomonas in hospital with a high resistance pattern against antibiotics especially Ampicillin and disinfectants.
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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    Originally posted by Pargat Perrer View Post

    I had mentioned that 250 of the world's top billionaires want governments to tax them more?

    Expiring Trump tax cuts means a tax increase on Americans: Peter Morici (msn.com)

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  • Pargat Perrer
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    Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post

    ..... only a brain-dead idiot like yourself would declare the most widely referenced medical library in the world, aka the Cochrane database, a "right-wing conspiracy" and reinvent how to interpret a scientific paper thet goes against your narrative of the usefulness of masks. Did you know that most people in the 1918 pandemic died not of an influenza virus but of bacterial pneumonia? Mask usage was widespread back then also and tended to quickly become like Petri dishes to culture bacteria. as they do now. ......
    But it is ok for you to declare that mass media is a left-wing conspiracy, despite IT being the most widely-referenced news source in the world. Oh, the mass media can be compromised and doing fake news, but NOT the Cochrane database! No!

    I would conclude that widely-referenced means absolutely nothing.

    Kind of funny how so many people in Asia wear masks daily even before the pandemic, and Asia has the densest populations in the world. Shouldn't they all be dying of bacterial pneumonia?

    BTW.... you want to imply that this bacterial pneumonia in 1918 Spanish flu outbreak was caused by mask-wearing. But here's what the National Institute of Health actually wrote:

    "The majority of deaths during the influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 were not caused by the influenza virus acting alone, report researchers from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID), part of the National Institutes of Health. Instead, most victims succumbed to bacterial pneumonia following influenza virus infection. The pneumonia was caused when bacteria that normally inhabit the nose and throat invaded the lungs along a pathway created when the virus destroyed the cells that line the bronchial tubes and lungs."

    https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news...uenza-pandemic


    NOTHING ABOUT MASK WEARING! Your mask hypothesis DESTROYED. You are a spreader of fake news!

    LOL I stole your idea of using bigger fonts!

    LOL what a silly bunch of bs you push! But it's ok because sensible people know what to do. Do you really want to debate me further? I'm making a fool of you!

    Now, you remember that before you hijacked this thread, I had mentioned that 250 of the world's top billionaires want governments to tax them more?

    Well, now comes word that Reagan's favorite concept, trickle-down theory, has never worked and has in fact been harmful to the overall economy....

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/othe...gy/ar-BB1heXSv
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  • Pargat Perrer
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    Only Man/Woman believes they & Earth are the centre of the Universe.

    There are millions of galaxies (An under-count). We are just a small part of the Milky Way Galaxy.

    Ask the many Extra Terrestrials if Earth is the Big Apple!!

    Bob A (Anthropogenicist)
    Bob A., I just watched a video on YouTube about the MINIMUM size of the Universe.

    The visible Universe from Earth has a diameter of about 92 billion light years. The figure I have seen is well over a trillion galaxies in that sphere.

    But the minimum size of the total Universe, which includes luminuous objects (stars etc.) whose light has not yet and might never reach us, a sphere 250 billion light years in diameter. That dwarfs the visible universe. Possibly trillions of trillions of galaxies.

    And of course, the Universe may be infinite in size. In fact it most likely IS infinite because it is expanding outward, and the definition of infinity is ever-growing.

    And the common factor of all the intelligent life forms in the Universe .... they are all in debt. LOL

    Earth is a very small apple, and it is full of worms.

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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    Even if I were a gnat in the Multi-Verse, I would value my existence, and try to preserve it.

    It is quality, not size.

    Bob A (Dem. Marxist)
    An example of 'intrinsic contradictions in Marxism' !

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Even if I were a gnat in the Multi-Verse, I would value my existence, and try to preserve it.

    It is quality, not size.

    Bob A (Dem. Marxist)

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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    Hi Dilip:

    Dilip: [Bob], why are you so climate anxious?

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    Bob: Has something to do with the majority of the population of the Earth, and the majority of expert Scientists, telling me that we are going to go extinct as a species, by our own hand, by exacerbating negative climate change!

    The Naturalist Negative Climate Changers are a very small, but vocal, minority. In this case, the majority happens to be right, and looking realistically at the scientific evidence.

    Capitalist governments of the world are not up to stopping negative climate change - they have a conflict of interest. Only DM Parties springing up across the globe in all nations will give the people a chance of avoiding extinction.

    Do any CT'ers, other than the Naturalists, dispute the above statements?

    Bob A (Dem. Marxist)
    But your fellow-Marxist says humans are a cancer (so better gotten rid of) and you say the Earth is just a negligible tiny dot, not the Big Apple... so stop being climate-anxious, Bob

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Hi Dilip:

    Dilip: [Bob], why are you so climate anxious?

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    Bob: Has something to do with the majority of the population of the Earth, and the majority of expert Scientists, telling me that we are going to go extinct as a species, by our own hand, by exacerbating negative climate change!

    The Naturalist Negative Climate Changers are a very small, but vocal, minority. In this case, the majority happens to be right, and looking realistically at the scientific evidence.

    Capitalist governments of the world are not up to stopping negative climate change - they have a conflict of interest. Only DM Parties springing up across the globe in all nations will give the people a chance of avoiding extinction.

    Do any CT'ers, other than the Naturalists, dispute the above statements?

    Bob A (Dem. Marxist)
    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    and the majority of expert Scientists, telling me that we are going to go extinct as a species, by our own hand, by exacerbating negative climate change!
    The long and hard road to scientific truth cannot be followed by the trivial expedient of a mere head-count among those who make their livings from government funding. Therefore, the mere fact that climate activists find themselves so often appealing to an imagined and (as we shall see) imaginary “consensus” is a red flag. They are far less sure of the supposed scientific truths to which they cling than they would like us to believe. “Consensus,” here, is a crutch for lame science.

    What, then, is the origin of the “97% consensus” notion? Is it backed up with research and data?
    The earliest attempt to document a “consensus” on climate change was a 2004 paper cited by Al Gore in his allegedly non-fiction book, An Inconvenient Truth. (Gore attended natural science class at Harvard, but got a D grade for it.) The author of the cited paper, Naomi Oreskes, asserted that 75% of nearly 1,000 papers she had reviewed on the question of climate change agreed with the “consensus” proposition favored by the IPCC: “Most of the observed warming over the last 50 years is likely to have been due to the increase in greenhouse gas concentrations.” None, she maintained, dissented from this line of reasoning.

    The Oreskes paper came to the attention of Klaus-Martin Schulte, an eminent London surgeon, who had become concerned with the adverse health effects of his patients from their belief in apocalyptic global warming.

    Professor Schulte decided to update Oreskes’ work. However, he found that only 45% of several hundred papers endorsed the “consensus” position. He concluded: “There appears to be little basis in the peer-reviewed scientific literature for the degree of alarm on the issue of climate change which is being expressed in the media and by politicians, now carried over into the medical world and experienced by patients.”

    The primary paper that is often trotted out in support of the notion of “97% consensus” was written by John Cook and his merry band of climate extremists. Published in 2013, it is the most widely referenced work on the subject of climate consensus and has been downloaded more than 1.3 million times.

    Cook runs a climate website that is a smorgasbord of climate fear rhetoric, specializing in attacks—often personal and spiteful in tone—on all who have proven effective in leading others to stray from the dogma of impending climate doom.

    The project was self-described as “a ‘citizen science’ project by volunteers contributing to the website.” The team consisted of 12 climate activists who did not leave their climate prejudices at home. These volunteers, many of whom had no training in the sciences, said they had “reviewed” abstracts from 11,944 peer-reviewed papers related to climate change or global warming, published over the 21 years 1991 – 2011, to assess the extent to which they supported the “consensus view” on climate change. As Cook’s paper said,

    “We analysed a large sample of the scientific literature on global CC [climate change], published over a 21-year period, in order to determine the level of scientific consensus that human activity is very likely causing most of the current GW (anthropogenic global warming, or AGW).”

    The paper concluded,

    “Among abstracts that expressed a position on AGW [anthropogenic global warming], 97.1% endorsed the scientific consensus. … Among papers expressing a position on AGW, an overwhelming percentage (97.2% based on self-ratings, 97.1% based on abstract ratings) endorses the scientific consensus on AGW.”

    The paper asserted—falsely, as it turned out—that 97% of the papers the reviewers examined had explicitly endorsed the opinion that humans are causing the majority of the warming of the last 150 years.

    When one looks at the data, one finds that 7,930 of the papers took no position at all on the subject and were arbitrarily excluded from the count on this ground. If we simply add back all of the papers reviewed, the 97% claimed by Cook and his co-authors falls to 32.6%.

    A closer look at the paper reveals that the so-called “97%” included three categories of endorsement of human-caused climate change (Figure 1). Only the first category amounted to an explicit statement that humans are the primary cause of recent warming. The second and third categories would include most skeptics of catastrophic anthropogenic warming, including the scientists of the CO2 Coalition, who accept that increasing CO2 is probably causing some, probably modest, amount of warming; an amount that is likely rendered insignificant by natural causes of warmer weather. Only by casting a wide net could Cook conclude that there is any type of “consensus.”

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    Figure 1 – Categories of endorsement – Cook 2013

    Agnotology is defined as “the study of how ignorance arises via circulation of misinformation calculated to mislead.” This is how David Legates and his co-authors (2015) describe the Cook paper and similar attempts falsely to promote the notion of broad scientific consensus surrounding the subject of a looming, man-made, climate apocalypse.

    They reviewed the actual papers used by Cook and found that only 0.3% of the 11,944 abstracts and 1.6% of the smaller sample that excluded those papers expressing no opinion endorsed man-made global warming as they defined it. Remarkably, they found that Cook and his assistants had themselves marked only 64 papers—or 0.5% of the 11,944 they said they had reviewed—as explicitly stating that recent warming was mostly man-made (Figure 2). Yet they stated, both in the paper itself and subsequently, that they had found a “97% consensus” explicitly stating that recent warming was mostly man-made.
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    https://co2coalition.org/2021/10/31/...hat-consensus/
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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Hi Dilip:

    Dilip: [Bob], why are you so climate anxious?

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    Bob: Has something to do with the majority of the population of the Earth, and the majority of expert Scientists, telling me that we are going to go extinct as a species, by our own hand, by exacerbating negative climate change!

    The Naturalist Negative Climate Changers are a very small, but vocal, minority. In this case, the majority happens to be right, and looking realistically at the scientific evidence.

    Capitalist governments of the world are not up to stopping negative climate change - they have a conflict of interest. Only DM Parties springing up across the globe in all nations will give the people a chance of avoiding extinction.

    Do any CT'ers, other than the Naturalists, dispute the above statements?

    Bob A (Dem. Marxist)

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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
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    Only Man/Woman believes they & Earth are the centre of the Universe.

    There are millions of galaxies (An under-count). We are just a small part of the Milky Way Galaxy.

    Ask the many Extra Terrestrials if Earth is the Big Apple!!

    Bob A (Anthropogenicist)
    If so, why are you so climate anxious?

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Pargat Perrer View Post

    Thanks for those big fonts Sid ... it makes what you write so much more believable! LOL

    I have no problem seeing man as a cancer .... seeing man as not the end product, but as a means to an end ....

    But some do see man as the destiny of the universe, the ultimate Master of the Universe. Immortality is within reach .... the singularity is coming ... LOL


    Originally posted by Pargat Perrer View Post
    I have no problem seeing man as cancer
    Yes, and, therefore, let others decide who is cancerous and who is not. Amazing, the second-generation descendants of Nazis (WEF globalists) don't even need to force those they deem "cancerous" into gas chambers. They simply convince populations that it is a great idea to slowly suffocate and brain damage themselves and even their children with masks over a virus that, as it turns out, had an IFR rate no worse than the flu.

    I mean, only a brain-dead idiot like yourself would declare the most widely referenced medical library in the world, aka the Cochrane database, a "right-wing conspiracy" and reinvent how to interpret a scientific paper thet goes against your narrative of the usefulness of masks. Did you know that most people in the 1918 pandemic died not of an influenza virus but of bacterial pneumonia? Mask usage was widespread back then also and tended to quickly become like Petri dishes to culture bacteria. as they do now. Dr. Fauci even wrote a paper about this in 2008.https://academic.oup.com/jid/article/198/7/962/2192118

    Of course, the cherry on top is to convince populations to inject themselves with a lethal immune system-destroying toxin so that they have no defense against florid pneumonia.

    Oh, too many people have wised up to the above? So they convince the lemmings that CO2, the most important life-sustaining gas, is harmful and starves the populations by destroying food production in the name of climate change. Have you checked out the news recently about widespread European farmer protests? Hopefully, there is enough left of your oxygen-starved brains to do so.


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    Only Man/Woman believes they & Earth are the centre of the Universe.

    There are millions of galaxies (An under-count). We are just a small part of the Milky Way Galaxy.

    Ask the many Extra Terrestrials if Earth is the Big Apple!!

    Bob A (Anthropogenicist)
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