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This is the goal of the "Clique" (One faction being the Capitalist Oligarchs of the planet), aided and abetted by the capitalist governments of the world, including Canada. This agenda is already, and has been, slowly and incrementally put into place. It is not yet achieved, but many elements are now locked in, and the timeline for achieving full control of the world is somewhat uncertain........but at the rate pieces of the agenda are being put into place, this goal may not be too far off in the future.
Democratic Marxism is sounding the alarm on this project, fatal to humanity's freedom. It will fight to the death to try to stop the Clique from achieving its goal.
This thread sets out the very many ways, and the policies, by which DM will try to prevent the slow implementation of the agenda. Only by going back and reviewing this thread from Post # 1 on, can the full expanse of Democratic Marxism's policies and strategy be seen.
Critical to this strategy is the formation of Democratic Marxist National Parties across the globe, forming to win governments, and use their power to stop this agenda.
The first party to form has been the Democratic Marxist Party of Ontario. Ontario is a Province of Canada. It, as a province, has part of the divided governing power in Canada, and controls significant aspects of the lives of Ontarians.
The party hopes to run at least one Candidate for Member of Provincial Parliament (MPP) in the upcoming Ontario election, expected in 2026
.The 44th Ontario general election is tentatively scheduled to be held on June 4, 2026. As of December 2016, Ontario elections are held on the first Thursday in June in the fourth calendar year following the previous general election,[1] unless the Legislative Assembly of Ontario is dissolved earlier by the Lieutenant Governor of Ontario due advice from the Premier of Ontario, a motion of no confidence or the failure of the Assembly to grant supply. Such a dissolution is unlikely as the current government has a majority.
[B]This is the goal of the "Clique" (One faction being the Capitalist Oligarchs of the planet), aided and abetted by the capitalist governments of the world
Bob, you are mislabeling them. When private industry corrupts the government, you have fascism. Marxism and Fascism are essentially the same...same store, different window! Every Marxist government in history, including Allende, consisted of corrupt government bureaucrats and politicians grifting from the populace to enrich themselves under the pretense of the "common good."
The elite oligarchs you refer to have the same depraved goals as the oligarchs of the past: depopulation. I have outlined my case that you apparently no longer have the ability to read or listen to.
The elite oligarchs are a product of corrupted governments, and the idea of "you will own nothing and be happy" is essentially no different than the goals of Marxists. In both cases, the elite at the top government officials and their operating partners own everything, and the populace owns nothing.
Dilip is exactly right. Government should be kept to an absolute minimum, and strong laws should be in place to prevent unfair and corrupted competition in the marketplace.
This behavior is what we could expect to see more of under deregulated LIbertarianism:
"....a staggering $1.2 trillion in relief funds was dispersed by the Small Business Administration (SBA) over the past two years. However, shocking revelations suggest that a significant portion of this sum, approximately 70%, never reached the intended recipients – employees.
Instead, an alarming 66% to 77% of the funds were diverted into the hands of business owners and shareholders, raising serious questions about the integrity of the relief programs.
....
These individuals are facing severe penalties, with some potentially facing decades-long prison sentences for their alleged roles in schemes involving millions of dollars. From luxury cars to designer goods, the ill-gotten gains of these schemes have funded lavish lifestyles at the expense of taxpayers."
This is the goal of the "Clique" (One faction being the Capitalist Oligarchs of the planet), aided and abetted by the capitalist governments of the world, including Canada. This agenda is already, and has been, slowly and incrementally put into place. It is not yet achieved, but many elements are now locked in, and the timeline for achieving full control of the world is somewhat uncertain........but at the rate pieces of the agenda are being put into place, this goal may not be too far off in the future.
Democratic Marxism is sounding the alarm on this project, fatal to humanity's freedom. It will fight to the death to try to stop the Clique from achieving its goal.
This thread sets out the very many ways, and the policies, by which DM will try to prevent the slow implementation of the agenda. Only by going back and reviewing this thread from Post # 1 on, can the full expanse of Democratic Marxism's policies and strategy be seen.
Critical to this strategy is the formation of Democratic Marxist National Parties across the globe, forming to win governments, and use their power to stop this agenda.
The first party to form has been the Democratic Marxist Party of Ontario. Ontario is a Province of Canada. It, as a province, has part of the divided governing power in Canada, and controls significant aspects of the lives of Ontarians.
The party hopes to run at least one Candidate for Member of Provincial Parliament (MPP) in the upcoming Ontario election, expected in 2026
.The 44th Ontario general election is tentatively scheduled to be held on June 4, 2026. As of December 2016, Ontario elections are held on the first Thursday in June in the fourth calendar year following the previous general election,[1] unless the Legislative Assembly of Ontario is dissolved earlier by the Lieutenant Governor of Ontario due advice from the Premier of Ontario, a motion of no confidence or the failure of the Assembly to grant supply. Such a dissolution is unlikely as the current government has a majority.
The current globalist "Clique" seeking world domination (misguided benevolence)
I am having difficulty labelling it other than "capitalist".
The oligarchs are a faction of the "Clique"......the national governments of the world are dominantly "capitalist". Both have fostered and aided the slow, incremental implementation of the One-World Government. Any attempt to label the "Clique" as "left" seems absurd to me. What we will get will be a Fascist totalitarian government........the State owns everything, and decides what the worker gets.
"You will have nothing.....and you will be happy."
Labelling the Clique as "Communist", "Socialist", "Marxist" or "Left" is a deliberate obfuscation, to cover up the fundamentally "Capitalist" nature of what is being implemented.
Sid.........you have the answer to your question.
We have totally opposite views on the nature of the calamity being put onto we plebs......for the moment, I will say "attempted" to be put onto us.....it is not yet a done deal, but time is getting short to adopt an alternate form of government........decentralized Democratic Marxist governments nationally aiming at Earth as a "Collection of Villages"/"The Sustainable Earth Project"........small is beautiful!
Bourgeois private property, and all the negatives that come with it, must go.
Bob A (Dem. Marxist)
I see the notion of "ownership" coming up very often in these latest posts. Even snot-nose with his question about who owns prosperity.
The extreme right-wing movement (Libertarianism included) loves this idea of "ownership" almost as much as they love the concept of "freedom".
Yet they are diametrically opposite! The more ownership you have, the less freedom you have.Hippies realized this back in the 1960s.
This paradox has not been realized or solved by the extreme right-wing movements. And now they, in the personnage here of Sid and Dilip and Neil, want everyone to revolt against the idea of not having ownership. Yet not having ownership is the path to freedom!
Economic freedom is perversely tied so closely to ownership ... of many vehicles, many properties, many businesses, many THINGS. But these ownerships tie you down, so that you LOSE freedom.
He shall be like a tree Planted by the rivers of water, That brings forth its fruit in its season, Whose leaf also shall not wither; And whatever he does shall prosper.
Proverbs 28:25
He who is of a proud heart stirs up strife, but he who trusts in the Lord will be prospered.
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Any more comments???
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You can talk about individual prosperity all you want ... what Sid was referring to in his post #128 was societal prosperity.
The question was did you carefully read the material I posted and carefully listen to the video I posted?
Yes or no?
I will take changing the subject or not answering as a "no."
Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Tuesday, 13th February, 2024, 12:36 AM.
The current globalist "Clique" seeking world domination (misguided benevolence)
I am having difficulty labelling it other than "capitalist".
The oligarchs are a faction of the "Clique"......the national governments of the world are dominantly "capitalist". Both have fostered and aided the slow, incremental implementation of the One-World Government. Any attempt to label the "Clique" as "left" seems absurd to me. What we will get will be a Fascist totalitarian government........the State owns everything, and decides what the worker gets.
"You will have nothing.....and you will be happy."
Labelling the Clique as "Communist", "Socialist", "Marxist" or "Left" is a deliberate obfuscation, to cover up the fundamentally "Capitalist" nature of what is being implemented.
Sid.........you have the answer to your question.
We have totally opposite views on the nature of the calamity being put onto we plebs......for the moment, I will say "attempted" to be put onto us.....it is not yet a done deal, but time is getting short to adopt an alternate form of government........decentralized Democratic Marxist governments nationally aiming at Earth as a "Collection of Villages"/"The Sustainable Earth Project"........small is beautiful!
Bourgeois private property, and all the negatives that come with it, must go.
Bob A (Dem. Marxist)
Last edited by Bob Armstrong; Monday, 12th February, 2024, 07:37 PM.
Sid, and his sidekicks, and Democratic Marxism, agree, in my view, on a couple of things:
1. There is a "Clique" that is powerful, and partly open, and partly covert that has a world control agenda.
2. The "One-World Government" being incrementally implemented in various different places and ways, is NOT a good idea for human society.
3. That some changes being proposed under the Clique's agenda in terms of ceding of national power to some multi-lateral organizations need to be opposed now, before being locked into place - the farmers' revolt brings the problem right into the public's livingroom (Though we disagree as to why the farmers have a legitimate concern, and what that concern is).
So there is some basis for some cooperation on some things.
Bob A (Dem. Marxist)
You still have not answered my question. If you think the
anti globalist movement will replace one Marxist for another
that claims to be different we are a bit too smart for that.
If you don’t like being tarred with the same brush as all
the other failed Marxist regimes take the word Marxist out of your name.
Democratic Decentralized party has a nice ring to it and could gain traction. This Marxist shit and abolishment of private property has no appeal to anyone except you and the WEF that plays people you like a fiddle and are very happy as the government to own everything!
it is passé!
So until I get a yes to my question from you I consider you a waste of time.
Sid, and his sidekicks, and Democratic Marxism, agree, in my view, on a couple of things:
1. There is a "Clique" that is powerful, and partly open, and partly covert that has a world control agenda.
2. The "One-World Government" being incrementally implemented in various different places and ways, is NOT a good idea for human society.
3. That some changes being proposed under the Clique's agenda in terms of ceding of national power to some multi-lateral organizations need to be opposed now, before being locked into place - the farmers' revolt brings the problem right into the public's livingroom (Though we disagree as to why the farmers have a legitimate concern, and what that concern is).
So there is some basis for some cooperation on some things.
Personally, I am unsatisfied by the evidence being marshalled by one side, that there is a malevolent clique, of great power and influence, seeking the destruction of the human race.
It is my view that there is indeed a "Clique", some of whom are public, some covert (With some malevolent beings covertly involved), of great power and influence, who believe that the future of man is best achieved under a one-world authoritarian government.
But I believe the majority of this Clique see themselves as "Benevolent" (Most are Not malevolently motivated) - they seek to provide for the residents of Earth, a life of peace, prosperity and happiness (And all material needs being met).
I can only repeat the old saw: "Beware those on a mission who are of the best of intentions".
Bob A (Democratic Marxist)
Again, have you carefully read what I posted and, more importantly, listened to the video carefully? If there is something specifically that you see as inaccurate, I
would like to hear about it. The body of evidence does not show "benevolence" in any way, shape, or form. You either listen and examine the evidence or you simply like the sound of your voice. If the last part is correct ( like the sound of your voice), I do not need to waste more time talking with you.
Personally, I am unsatisfied by the evidence being marshalled by one side, that there is a malevolent clique, of great power and influence, seeking the destruction of the human race.
It is my view that there is indeed a "Clique", some of whom are public, some covert (With some malevolent beings covertly involved), of great power and influence, who believe that the future of man is best achieved under a one-world authoritarian government.
But I believe the majority of this Clique see themselves as "Benevolent" (Most are Not malevolently motivated) - they seek to provide for the residents of Earth, a life of peace, prosperity and happiness (And all material needs being met).
I can only repeat the old saw: "Beware those on a mission who are of the best of intentions".
Incremental Progress towards the One-world Government?
The WHO Agreement on Pandemics
"[The] May [2024] deadline approaches for finalizing negotiations between the World Health Organization (WHO) and its 194 member nations over how much authority they will CEDE [Emphasis added] to the WHO once it declares a global health emergency.
Incremental Progress towards the One-world Government?
The WHO Agreement on Pandemics
"[The] May [2024] deadline approaches for finalizing negotiations between the World Health Organization (WHO) and its 194 member nations over how much authority they will CEDE [Emphasis added] to the WHO once it declares a global health emergency.
The “Weekly Overview” of the topic is posted for the benefit of new members who may have come in between the “Weekly Overviews”. It provides an executive summary of the issue for new viewers.
The Stats of participation are important to allow all to determine the extent of continuing interest. For thread originators/responders, they are important to see if the interest no longer warrants the labour. Or alternatively, they show that those of us discussing it are drawing in more participants, because they have begun to see the importance of our topic.
A. Statistics
1. Weekly Stats:
Week # 6 (24/2/5 – 2/11 [7 days])
(Sometimes Adjusted for no. of days)
.....................................................2024 Average
Last Week's......Prior Week's........Views/Day Views/Day........Views/Day.............(6 wks.)
Last week's stats are running pretty close to the 2024 stats so far. This indicates a continued steady interest in DM from when the thread started.
That the thread has had 3 posts per week on average from the start shows a relatively active thread.
This thread is an opportunity to learn something about the political system known as “Democratic Marxism”! It is also an opportunity to question DM in a good and safe forum, where we try to respect the right of all CT'ers to have their own analysis, and to be entitled to put it forward for consideration, even if differing from DM.
B. Goal of this Thread
To make clear what Democratic Marxism is, and what it is not (Old-style USSR Communism)
To provide materials that help CT'ers analyze the pluses and minuses of DM.
Additional Notes:
1. The goal of this thread is not to try to beat opposing views into oblivion. Political economy spans the spectrum. Every position is entitled to post as it sees fit, regardless of the kind of, and amount of, postings by other positions. What is wanted is serious consideration of all posts........then you decide among the many competing political philosophies.
2. I, Bob A, personally, as the thread originator, am trying to post a new response at least twice per week, but admit my busy schedule means I may sometimes fall short on this. So it is necessary that a number of other CT'ers post responses here somewhat regularly as well.
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