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  • Best commentary I have heard today.

    ​​​​​​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9t3..._channel=MSNBC

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    • I don't agree with your characterization of the Penny situation. You seem to suffer from the common fallacy of assuming that Penny is somehow omnipotent like the heroes in an action movie. He was a man that was afraid and acted out of his fear. Death is always present in these situations. In all of the situations that you cite, the perpetrators should have been prosecuted. I am not aware of any necessity for the victim to pursue them.

      With respect to the lovely young woman who was murdered by that lunatic in Charlottesville, I think he should at a minimum spend the rest of his life in prison. My preference would be less pleasant but we can't expect the world to accommodate us and in the end there will be justice.

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      • Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
        Best commentary I have heard today.

        ​​​​​​https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9t3..._channel=MSNBC
        Sore losers.

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        • Hi Frank:

          I too am happy to be a Canadian.

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          But it looks to me like "Mini-Trump" Polievre is coming here soon!

          What a North American two-some this will be, with Mexico being a bit left of centre.

          Look forward to those corporate tax breaks, reduction of support for the vulnerable in our society, and the slashing of government and regulations that reign in the worst excesses of wild west business/Capitalism.

          We will be hunkering down, just like the almost half of Americans who now have the barbarians in charge.

          Bob A (Democratic Marxist)

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          • Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
            Hi Frank:

            I too am happy to be a Canadian.

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            But it looks to me like "Mini-Trump" Polievre is coming here soon!
            Hi Bob, I too am happy to be a Canadian.

            Friends have been telling me that Polievre will win easily.

            Trump's promises include: tearing up the constitution, retribution against his political enemies, massive firing and downsizing of government, tax cuts for the rich, cancelling the green new deal, and implementing project 2025. An ambitious agenda.

            Sad to say I have been distracted watching the shit show south of the border and not current on the state of Canadian politics. I was wondering if you could summarize a few key promises of Polievre. Hope to get current soon. Thanks.

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            • Elon Musk's take,

              "Arizona just declared for President-Elect Trump.

              , making it a clean sweep of all swing states! Massive red wave success! It is beyond a landslide, as Republicans won: – Presidency – Popular vote – Senate majority – House majority – State governor majority – State legislature majority The few states that didn’t go red are mostly ones without voter ID requirements. Must be a coincidence This is an extremely clear mandate from the people for significant change!

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              For anyone, whether in America or other countries, who finds this result shocking, they should reconsider where they get their information. This trend was obvious on X for months, but almost all the legacy mainstream media pushed a completely false reality. They lied to you."


              This trend was also painfully obvious in decentralized betting markets where one could actually profit if they were correct in the conjecture that main stream media tells the truth.

              The one social media platform that has attempted to follow the First Amendment turned out to be the closest to reality with respect to the election.

              I completely agree with Musk, as I have observed the same problem in the COVID-19 pandemic that cost millions of lives by misinforming people and climate change. Main Mainstream media pushes an alternate reality; they lie, not such a radical idea!
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              • If you get your news from the TV, all you are getting is propaganda.

                Musk did the world a great service by buying X.

                When all of the votes are counted, I wonder how many more Biden got in 2020 than Harris did in 2024. Ten million?
                "Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.

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                • Originally posted by Tom O'Donnell View Post
                  If you get your news from the TV, all you are getting is propaganda.

                  Musk did the world a great service by buying X.

                  When all of the votes are counted, I wonder how many more Biden got in 2020 than Harris did in 2024. Ten million?
                  Yes. With more scrutiny and fewer ways to cheat, Democrats lost something like ten million votes. With Hitler running and democracy at stake. It makes you wonder.

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                  • Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post


                    [B]Elon Musk's take,

                    "Arizona just declared for President-Elect Trump.

                    , making it a clean sweep of all swing states! Massive red wave success! It is beyond a landslide, as Republicans won: – Presidency – Popular vote – Senate majority – House majority – State governor majority – State legislature majority The few states that didn’t go red are mostly ones without voter ID requirements. Must be a coincidence This is an extremely clear mandate from the people for significant change!

                    ....
                    In post #128 of this thread, I predicted exactly this result....
                    "I predict that any battleground state that polls show in the week preceding the election as being within the margin of error, even it it is in favor of Harris, will be won by Trump.

                    and the pollsters will slink away shaking their heads again ..."


                    I am sure a lot of Trump supporters may have predicted this also, but I have to wonder if I was the only left-of-center person anywhere to predict this? It is not the result I wished for, and people generally predict very close to what they wish for.

                    It's really amazing when you think all 7 states were classified by the polls as "toss up". It's like flipping 7 coins and getting heads every time.

                    Now the person here who made the worst prediction ... he knows who he is ... is saying despite my perfect prediction of the results that I am "over the top" talking about Earth being a place that we come to for suffering. And another person said if this was a place meant for suffering, Harris would have won, which I corrected, because suffering comes to us no matter who our leaders or what their political leanings are. Suffering is GUARANTEED in all outcomes. It is the multiple combination of outcomes that determines who suffers and when ... eventually we all suffer.

                    If Trump ushers in a "golden age" .... everyone will still suffer eventually. Although one NDEer did say that some souls choose a life plan that could be described as a "vacation", but even then the person always suffers something at some time.

                    And by the way, the "golden age" may come about because the price of gold climbs to record amounts and the US has to default on its debts. That is going to happen at some point in the near future, but it may not be until the 2030s.




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                    • The TV news:

                      1) Trump is literally Hitler.
                      2) No one cheated in 2020 to defeat the guy that is literally Hitler.
                      "Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.

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                      • Originally posted by Tom O'Donnell View Post
                        The TV news:

                        1) Trump is literally Hitler.
                        2) ....
                        Which news anchor/network said this?
                        "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
                        "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
                        "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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                        • Originally posted by Pargat Perrer View Post
                          ....
                          If Trump ushers in a "golden age" ....
                          Given everything we know about Trump, I think he's more likely to usher in an "age of golden showers."
                          "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
                          "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
                          "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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                          • Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post

                            Which news anchor/network said this?
                            MSDNC, CNN, and even The View made such claims as did numerous Kamala surrogates. Kamala said that he was a fascist and I think Biden may have as well. Kamala did say in 2019 that Joe Biden is a racist but there is more evidence for that claim.

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                            • Hysteria and mad cackling is not a strategy that inspires confidence in the electorate.

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                              • The Majority of Americans have spoken clearly - they want the New Golden Age that Trump represents.

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                                They feel they started to get it in Trump's 1st presidency, and then fell behind under Biden when he put together a new majority.

                                They want Trump to now continue to implement his brave new world.......and I believe he will for them, and for his oligarch friends, and for his authoritarian leader friends around the globe.

                                He is very clear on his right-wing agenda......his voters cannot claim later that he said one thing, and did another.

                                And his electors are going to be shocked at what they asked for, and will get!

                                Bob A (Democratic Marxist)

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