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  • #46
    Re: Climate Change Poll - not chess related

    Originally posted by Carl Bilodeau View Post
    Most of us, including probably this professor, comes from familly where the parents or grand-parents only had a grade 3 primary scholl education. In the case of this professor, his children will have many other source of information than their father thoughts. It takes 1 or 2 generations.

    Carl
    I am not sure that education level is relevant; I have encountered a number of well-educated fools. ;)

    I seriously worry about the current generation learning from Wikipedia or other unverified sources of information on the Internet. At least in the case of printed encyclopedias, there was much closer scrutiny of the information and extensive fact checking and a supervisory editorial board (all information is subject to interpretation I suppose, but I would prefer to accept information that has been through a rigorous process).
    ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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    • #47
      Re: Climate Change Poll - not chess related

      Originally posted by Kerry Liles View Post
      I am not sure that education level is relevant; I have encountered a number of well-educated fools. ;)

      I seriously worry about the current generation learning from Wikipedia or other unverified sources of information on the Internet. At least in the case of printed encyclopedias, there was much closer scrutiny of the information and extensive fact checking and a supervisory editorial board (all information is subject to interpretation I suppose, but I would prefer to accept information that has been through a rigorous process).
      I don't think education level for a person is relevant like you say. I stated from the beginning that the Global education level of the population was the factor.

      It is like smoking in a family. Some will not smoke even if in their family the parents were smoking. And some people will smoke even if they come from a family which did not used to smoke. But when the global population get educated about the effects of smoking then we see a high drop.

      The future of smoking is in poor contrys like religions.

      Carl

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      • #48
        Re: Climate Change Poll - not chess related

        Originally posted by Carl Bilodeau View Post
        The future of smoking is in poor contrys like religions.
        Do you say that religion will survive only in poor countries?
        When do you predict "In God We Trust" will be removed from US banknots?

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        • #49
          Re: Climate Change Poll - not chess related

          Originally posted by Paul Beckwith View Post
          Please choose the option that best reflects your current view on climate change...
          In some attempt to return your thread to climate matters, here's something I read today. You might find the project interesting.

          http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/a.../20/c8683.html
          Gary Ruben
          CC - IA and SIM

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          • #50
            Re: Climate Change Poll - not chess related

            Originally posted by Carl Bilodeau View Post
            Most of us, including probably this professor, comes from familly where the parents or grand-parents only had a grade 3 primary scholl education. In the case of this professor, his children will have many other source of information than their father thoughts. It takes 1 or 2 generations.

            Carl
            both my parents are highly educated and are agnostic at best... I grew up as an atheist.... as a teenager I use to love to show up to christian youth groups and insult and debate them... I grew up with far more sources of information than my parents did... yet I still chose my own beliefs.

            I guess my problem is that you seem almost 'preachy' in your insistence that Atheism is true... it is YOUR religion and you preach it far more insistently than any christian evangelist... each of us has our own personal beliefs and you seem to feel it necessary to insult those who hold any other beliefs other than your own... Now this is often true for many atheists, they could give any christian evangelist tips on how to preach. Now I have many atheist friends, as well as christian friends, what we have all learned is that if you treat each other with respect to differing points of views, it is easy to get along...

            I believe it was Voltaire that stated that Christianity would disappear in a couple of generations... funny thing is that they now print bibles out of his old house.

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            • #51
              Re : Climate Change Poll - not chess related

              Even you call on French Chesstalk for a boycott of OUR Montreal Championship by Montrealers was a very cheap shot from you to punish benevoles.
              In english like in french you just can't read a sentence without misunderstanding it. I never called for a boycott. I even played in this tournament! I said that a lot of people boycotted this evenement because of all the insults you've said before. I really appreciated the work of the volunteers and I've tell them. Just stop saying false things so that we notice you a lot.
              You should know too that I write by myself and have nothing to do with my mother. I never associated your daughter with your comments....
              And it is not ''your'' Montreal Championship.


              I imagine that I will have the chance to laugh again at your next answer, which will again be completely irrelevant, as usual.

              --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
              Now about the subject:

              I, too, am a proud atheist... But I've never denigrated the people that had a religion or believed in god. Everybody is free of thinking, there's no reason to laugh at people just because of their religion...
              Last edited by Felix Dumont; Tuesday, 20th October, 2009, 10:08 PM.

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              • #52
                Re: Climate Change Poll - not chess related

                Originally posted by Jason Lohner View Post
                ...

                I believe it was Voltaire that stated that Christianity would disappear in a couple of generations...
                Voltaire was doing a prediction which was not based on statistics showing any decrease.

                The decrease we see in Quebec, France and many parts of Europe on graphics is quite clear. I think Voltaire was too confident in human but for sure he was right. A couple of generations and religion will probably be treated like a psychology disorder.

                I congratulate you for good relationship with christians. Personaly I have seen in the past a one way path: They express their believes openly and I keep mines for myself unless I will be rejected. I call it: one-way respect. But with only 3% in Quebec practicing a religion I lost the habit of silence when someone talks about Creationism in a science discussion.

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                • #53
                  Re: Climate Change Poll - not chess related

                  Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                  In some attempt to return your thread to climate matters, here's something I read today. You might find the project interesting.

                  http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/a.../20/c8683.html
                  The UAH and RSS satellite have an error level of 0.1 degree since they go a bit up and down during a year. Some people built algorithms to correct this error level based on the position.

                  This future satellite in your article seems to be very precise:

                  The satellite is part of continuing effort on the part of scientists to monitor and understand the processes which govern the behavior of the Earth's global climate and its changes. COM DEV's equipment will be responsible for detecting and processing extremely faint signals created by atmospheric conditions in the field of view of the satellite.


                  Carl

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                  • #54
                    Re: Climate Change Poll - not chess related

                    Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post

                    ...

                    When do you predict "In God We Trust" will be removed from US banknots?
                    Today, around half of American adults leave the faith tradition of their upbringing. Quebec reached this 50% level in my opinion more than 30 years ago. So I would say that in 2050 their will be 3% people practicing a religion in USA and the pressure will be very high to remove the "In God We Trust". That is very very soon.

                    In Iran it should take more time since the education level of the global population is the key factor. Since their religion regime in Iran is as extreme as the one we had in Quebec, the decline will be very rapid when it will start.

                    Carl
                    Last edited by Carl Bilodeau; Wednesday, 21st October, 2009, 07:01 AM.

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                    • #55
                      Re: Re : Climate Change Poll - not chess related

                      Despite your constant allegations, there was no scandal and no conflict of interest related to the employement of M. Millette with the FQE. His role in the organization of tournements was well understood and accepted by both parties and in no way interfered with his part time functions with the federation. The FQE is very satisfied with the work of Mr. Millette and is happy to have such an organiser in its rank. I would ask that you stop putting false information on this forum as it does not help chess in anyway.
                      Marc Poulin
                      President of the FQE
                      Last edited by Marc Poulin; Friday, 23rd October, 2009, 07:55 AM. Reason: typo

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                      • #56
                        Re: Re : Climate Change Poll - not chess related

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                        • #57
                          Re: Re : Climate Change Poll - not chess related

                          Originally posted by Marc Poulin View Post
                          Despite your constant allegations, there was no scandal and no conflict of interest related to the employement of M. Millette with the FQE. His role in the organization of tournements was well understood and accepted by both parties and in no way interfered with his part time functions with the federation. The FQE is very satisfied with the work of Mr. Millette and is happy to have such an organiser in its rank. I would ask that you stop putting false information on this forum as it does not help chess in anyway.
                          Marc Poulin
                          President of the FQE
                          M. Poulin,

                          False information?

                          People were simply asking: How come this guy get paid by FQE (he is an FQE official employee with the title "Developpment Agent") to do more than 5 tournaments and a chess club paid by FQE and advertized by the FQE while he takes the profits of the tournaments?

                          His "personal organized" tournaments (as stated in the publicity and by himself) had the advantages of the "FQE Organized tournaments" like: 1- being shown on the firt page of the FQE website; 2- having the gold color in the FQE agenda of tournaments; 3- probably did not have to pay the hundreds of dollards to get a publicity in the french FQE magazine; and 4- get the best advertizing pages in the french FQE magazine.

                          The debate started in our French Newsletter and on Chesstalk. Following this debate, all the new FQE tournaments were announced as "FQE organized" instead of "M. Milette organized" which is a good news for tax payers in my opinion.

                          But yes the new FQE president of the new team (that includes M. Millette girl friend) can say "It is false information SINCE "it was well understood and accepted by both parties". Your are right. The problem here is that you forget a third party which is the chess community of players and the volunteers organizing tournaments with their own money and time.

                          Since the FQE changed the situation we can say this debate was good for chess.

                          To try to stop simple democraty and press liberty here is what "does not help chess in anyway".

                          And to have M. Millette girl friend to harrass the Montreal Championship on Chesstalk and his son Felix to try to say there was a boycott (when this tournament brought 191 players) is simply in my opinion a way to punish any volunteer not paid by FQE that express concerns about the scandal. You should simply tell them to stop punishing volunteers.

                          Carl
                          Last edited by Carl Bilodeau; Saturday, 24th October, 2009, 08:36 AM.

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                          • #58
                            Re : Re: Re : Climate Change Poll - not chess related

                            Originally posted by Carl Bilodeau View Post
                            M. Poulin,

                            False information?

                            People were simply asking: How come this guy get paid by FQE (he is an FQE official employee with the title "Developpment Agent") to do more than 5 tournaments and a chess club paid by FQE and advertized by the FQE while he takes the profits of the tournaments?

                            His "personal organized" tournaments (as stated in the publicity and by himself) had the advantages of the "FQE Organized tournaments" like: 1- being shown on the firt page of the FQE website; 2- having the gold color in the FQE agenda of tournaments; 3- probably did not have to pay the hundreds of dollards to get a publicity in the french FQE magazine; and 4- get the best advertizing pages in the french FQE magazine.

                            The debate started in our French Newsletter and on Chesstalk. Following this debate, all the new FQE tournaments were announced as "FQE organized" instead of "M. Milette organized" which is a good news for tax payers in my opinion.

                            But yes the new FQE president of the new team (that includes M. Millette girl friend) can say "It is false information SINCE "it was well understood and accepted by both parties". Your are right. The problem here is that you forget a third party which is the chess community of players and the volunteers organizing tournaments with their own money and time.

                            Since the FQE changed the situation we can say this debate was good for chess.

                            To try to stop simple democraty and press liberty here is what "does not help chess in anyway".

                            And to have M. Millette girl friend to harrass the Montreal Championship on Chesstalk and his son Felix to try to say there was a boycott (when this tournament brought 191 players) is simply in my opinion a way to punish any volunteer not paid by FQE that express concerns about the scandal.

                            Carl
                            false information and diffamation again from you M. Bilodeau my name is Line Lamontagne, not '' M Millette's girlfriend'' and again, because you're writing exactly the same things that you wrote on the french forum, my private life is not your business and anyway, I dont understand why you're continuing, you know that I am not with him.

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                            • #59
                              Re: Re : Re: Re : Climate Change Poll - not chess related

                              Originally posted by line lamontagne View Post
                              false information and diffamation again from you M. Bilodeau my name is Line Lamontagne, not '' M Millette's girlfriend'' and again, because you're writing exactly the same things that you wrote on the french forum, my private life is not your business and anyway, I dont understand why you're continuing, you know that I am not with him.
                              Your are playing with the words..... Being the girl friend of an FQE employee is an important fact when you present yourself in a election while there is concerns in the community about a scandal with this employee.

                              Your are not with him since you don't live together. But anybody that has been in one of his tournament seing your kisses and your discussions about your everyday meals can make his opinion. This was personal information until your came in the election to become a FQE executive.

                              By the way, stop campaining against the Montreal championship since it does not help chess and volunteers in anyway.

                              Carl

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                              • #60
                                Re : Climate Change Poll - not chess related

                                Why do you so much need to lie? I never boycotted the tournament or ''campaining'' [sic] against it... Just try to find a sentence were I said this... Can you? The only thing I said is that I knew people who didn't want to go to this tournament because you insulted them. I talked with the president of the Ahuntsic chess club who organized this tournament and he knew how much I wanted to help, even if you were always saying the opposite. I know all the volunteers who gave their time for this tournament and I helped them in other tournaments or activities....

                                By the way, stop libelling since it does not help chess and volunteers in ''anyway'' [sic].

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