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  • Egidijus Zeromskis
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    Originally posted by Alan Baljeu View Post
    Paul, you wrote that this storm veered left unlike all other hurricanes before.
    I grant this is not typical, but I question you is it truly unprecedented?
    Compare the path of Hazel (1954) and Sandy (2012)





    Was there precedent? Maybe. Look how dense they go in a period 1851 and 2005


    sources Wiki from NHC

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post

    If we get a cold spell then its weather. If we get a natural disaster then its climate change. The question is, are they being intentionally dishonest or are they just stupid and don't understand that weather is not climate?
    For this area that Frankenstorm wasn't as bad as forecast on the TV weather channel. The wind didn't amount to very much and the rain didn't either. Probably it was worse in other areas but not here.

    In New York they cancelled the Knicks basketball game with the Nets last night. The NBA policy is, as far as I understand it, that if both teams can reach the stadium and 3 referees, the game will be played regardless of how few, if any, fans arrive. In this case the game was supposed to be broadcast nationally and they didn't want to do it with an empty stadium so they postponed the game.

    The problem with all the climate doomsters is they think they have suddenly discovered weather changes. A bird poops on their window and they think it's a sh*tstorm. :)

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
    I don't take the Sierra Club seriously.
    Is there anyone who does anymore? They seem to be beholden to anyone who will give them money. See the links between them and the Ambassador Bridge Company.


    It was a storm named for Halloween. In 1954 Toronto got Hurricane Hazel which did more damage than this one in this area. It was around this time of the year.

    Weather happens.

    http://www.hurricanehazel.ca/
    If we get a cold spell then its weather. If we get a natural disaster then its climate change. The question is, are they being intentionally dishonest or are they just stupid and don't understand that weather is not climate?

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Originally posted by Paul Beckwith View Post
    There have been at least a dozen or more articles written since my Sierra Club blog that was published on Monday, the day of the storm, that deal with the Sandy/climate change linkages. Unfortunately for the planet and the deniers, they all support my arguments.
    I don't take the Sierra Club seriously.

    It was a storm named for Halloween. In 1954 Toronto got Hurricane Hazel which did more damage than this one in this area. It was around this time of the year.

    Weather happens.

    http://www.hurricanehazel.ca/

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  • Alan Baljeu
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    Paul, you wrote that this storm veered left unlike all other hurricanes before.
    I grant this is not typical, but I question you is it truly unprecedented?

    Have you indeed reviewed the tracks of all previous storms, or at least the short list of previous disaster hurricanes that hit New York?

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  • Paul Beckwith
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    "We’ve been shortsighted. We’ve marginalized those who warned us. We’ve treated environmentalism as an irksome fad. We’ve given cadence to nontroversies and called it balance. We’ve spent trillions to protect ourselves against terrorists and done nothing to keep our biggest cities above water in a storm."
    http://www.alternet.org/real-terror-...911?paging=off

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  • Paul Beckwith
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    There have been at least a dozen or more articles written since my Sierra Club blog that was published on Monday, the day of the storm, that deal with the Sandy/climate change linkages. Unfortunately for the planet and the deniers, they all support my arguments.

    This article just appeared in the San Francisco Examiner that quotes me:
    http://www.examiner.com/article/hurr...climate-debate

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post
    I am not on its risk-assessment team :p
    Though for a normal operation it should be safe in terms that it should not make a big bang. However, if all union members would stop their work what would be consequences for the plant? (and of course, it was not stopped completely)
    I found this on the net.

    http://www.ccnr.org/exports_1.html

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Originally posted by Zeljko Kitich View Post
    There have always been anti-dumping tarrifs. That was the Canada US softwood lumber dispute. You have to take them to the WTO to prove that you are not subsidizing but that is a long process.
    Maybe China will do that.

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post
    and probably you read this
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfou...ouncement.html

    "despite a projected 24-per-cent increase in capital costs in just two years."

    They will wait another 2 years and add 25% again :D and so on.
    Here's a little more I found on the Nfld Muskrat falls project.

    http://www.tmxmoney.com/en/cpnews/HAB1026.html

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  • Zeljko Kitich
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    Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
    I thought it is because Ontario is insisting on expensive materials manufactured in Ontario while the U.S. was inundated with imported low cost materials.

    I read somewhere the U.S. is thinking of, or has, imposed tariffs on imports they claim are subsidized by their government and are detrimental to U.S. companies.
    There have always been anti-dumping tarrifs. That was the Canada US softwood lumber dispute. You have to take them to the WTO to prove that you are not subsidizing but that is a long process.

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
    Why is it that in the U.S. green energy companies can profitably sign deals to produce electricity for 11 cents per kilowatt hour and our green energy companies are whining about subsidized rates of 60 cents per kilowatt hour.

    BTW we have lost key decisions in the trade arena on Ontario's green energy program. For some reason the Harper government is running interference for the McGuinty government but the writing is on the wall. Its over folks.
    I thought it is because Ontario is insisting on expensive materials manufactured in Ontario while the U.S. was inundated with imported low cost materials.

    I read somewhere the U.S. is thinking of, or has, imposed tariffs on imports they claim are subsidized by their government and are detrimental to U.S. companies.

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Why is it that in the U.S. green energy companies can profitably sign deals to produce electricity for 11 cents per kilowatt hour and our green energy companies are whining about subsidized rates of 60 cents per kilowatt hour.

    BTW we have lost key decisions in the trade arena on Ontario's green energy program. For some reason the Harper government is running interference for the McGuinty government but the writing is on the wall. Its over folks.

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post
    Read the article and find the answer http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/h...4_accepted.pdf :p
    It is adjusted data gleaned from multiple and different sources of input with different bias and errors with multiple different adjustments and methods. It shows that the most recent series of 15 to 16 years indicates no warming. It does not provide much support for taking draconian actions based on the doomsday scenarios floated by alarmists. You can argue that it shows warming if you accept the validity of the various adjustments. Warming in and of itself does not prove anything as we are coming out of an ice age and would expect some warming as a result. What is interesting is that if CO2 increases temperature then why hasn't there been an increase over the last 16 years given the increase in carbon dioxide?

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  • Egidijus Zeromskis
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    Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
    There is also no indication whether this is unadjusted data or adjusted data which is quite different and may yield different results.


    Read the article and find the answer http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/hadobs/h...4_accepted.pdf :p

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