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  • #31
    Re: Toronto bids for 2016 Chess Olympics

    Originally posted by Kerry Liles View Post
    For example, I interpreted your response above as simply a subtle continuation of your war of words with Bob Gillanders and the CFC in general...
    Kerry, I interpreted his post the same way. I don't recall him ever saying anything positive about the CFC, so how else would I interpret it. It would seem he has joined the group of posters who find it impossible to say anything nice. Always negative, they are.

    As for this wagering against the Toronto bid, well it is just in bad taste. We all realize getting the sponsorship money is a large hurdle. We should be grateful that there are those willing to try. Good luck guys.

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    • #32
      Re: Toronto bids for 2016 Chess Olympics

      Originally posted by Mikhail Egorov View Post
      I think I did not I mentioned Gillanders name. In case missed it, please point it out to me!

      How people interpret or misinterpret statement, that I have no control over. :D
      .
      You would have control over the statements you make if you check what you wrote before posting it: - eg

      "I think I did not I mentioned ....."
      "I think I did not I mentioned ....."
      "I think I did not I mentioned ....."

      What is that supposed to mean???

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      • #33
        Re: Toronto bids for 2016 Chess Olympics

        It would seem that positive conversation about the Olympic bid may have to remain on the "other" forum.

        My only comment on this is that I'm sure FIDE will manage to find a way to approve a bid from the Americas over another European (or even Asian) bid ....

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        • #34
          Re: Toronto bids for 2016 Chess Olympics

          Originally posted by Hal Bond View Post
          So Kerry, did I misinterpret Jean? After his comments about me, FIDE and right vs wrong I thought he a least owed the readers some evidence in support of his arguments about Russia's preferred status as a host of FIDE events.
          I believe you were correct to ask Jean what he meant by his comment (I also have no idea what he means).

          I do not think Mikhail Egorov was justified in taking a backhanded swipe at the CFC by guessing that you were asking on behalf of the CFC Executive.

          Back to the main question: I think the implication was that Russia might be the fallback location for many tournaments simply because they have the infrastructure and the support base already established - unlike, say, Canada or any other country where chess is not so well supported. That is all I understood until Jean's comment.

          This is what I meant about postings in a forum - they are often quick statements that can easily be misinterpreted - or even interpreted in a specific way to further a specific agenda.
          ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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          • #35
            Re: Toronto bids for 2016 Chess Olympics

            Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
            Kerry, I interpreted his post the same way. I don't recall him ever saying anything positive about the CFC, so how else would I interpret it. It would seem he has joined the group of posters who find it impossible to say anything nice. Always negative, they are.

            As for this wagering against the Toronto bid, well it is just in bad taste. We all realize getting the sponsorship money is a large hurdle. We should be grateful that there are those willing to try. Good luck guys.
            I also think we should be very happy some people are taking on this huge task (the Toronto bid). What if it succeeded? Would the same people betting against it now, suddenly be on board? (I am thinking of Leafs fans - when they make the playoffs, there will all of a sudden be zillions of people who say "I told you so!!" - lol)
            ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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            • #36
              Re: Toronto bids for 2016 Chess Olympics

              Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
              As for this wagering against the Toronto bid, well it is just in bad taste. We all realize getting the sponsorship money is a large hurdle.
              There is no wager. Seems nobody wants to give away even 20 dollars.

              It reminds me of the line in the movie Gerry Maguire.

              Show me the money!!!
              Gary Ruben
              CC - IA and SIM

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              • #37
                Re: Toronto bids for 2016 Chess Olympics

                Originally posted by Kerry Liles View Post
                What if it succeeded? Would the same people betting against it now, suddenly be on board?
                Kerry, my friend. The wager is open to you if you wish to accept. :) I'm only offering to people I know.

                I hope they get the Olympiad. However, dreaming is not a basis for a viable wager.
                Gary Ruben
                CC - IA and SIM

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                • #38
                  Re: Toronto bids for 2016 Chess Olympics

                  Ok, betting that Toronto will not get the Olympiad may not be as bad as betting on someone's demise, but it is definately in poor taste nevertheless.
                  It is more like being in a teams event and betting one of your team mates will lose, is it not?
                  Clearly, you must feel that the Toronto bid is a huge underdog which they probably are and in a betting situation, a sporting bet would include setting a line say for example: "I will lay 5 -1 odds that it will not happen." In other words you might offer to bet $100 against $20. And I'm sure you must know this and you're just trying to clip $20 here and there with minimal risk.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Toronto bids for 2016 Chess Olympics

                    Originally posted by Vlad Dobrich View Post
                    You would have control over the statements you make if you check what you wrote before posting it: - eg

                    "I think I did not I mentioned ....."
                    "I think I did not I mentioned ....."
                    "I think I did not I mentioned ....."

                    What is that supposed to mean???
                    Hi Vlad,

                    You are a smart man and you should be able to figure it out! :D

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                    • #40
                      Re: Toronto bids for 2016 Chess Olympics

                      [QUOTE=Bob Gillanders;44221]Kerry, I interpreted his post the same way. QUOTE]

                      Now I know that statement: "Same minds think alike" exists for a reason.. :D

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                      • #41
                        Re: Toronto bids for 2016 Chess Olympics

                        Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                        However, dreaming is not a basis for a viable wager.
                        People who like to dream should go to Disneyland. :D

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                        • #42
                          Re: Toronto bids for 2016 Chess Olympics

                          Russia has been a friendly harbour for some homeless FIDE events - these days Turkey fits that bill as well. Both countries have also succeeded in competitive bidding situations. Nothing suspiscious about that. Larry and I were more or less on that page when Jean questioned it.

                          As his "proof" Jean has told the readers of Chess Talk that I am so involved with FIDE that I don't know right from wrong. I spend a lot of volunteer hours as Canada's FIDE Rep and I serve this community with great pride and integrity. So I do take exception to his remarks. He should back them up or withdraw them.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Toronto bids for 2016 Chess Olympics

                            Originally posted by Mikhail Egorov View Post
                            Hi Vlad,

                            You are a smart man and you should be able to figure it out! :D
                            Nope! I can't figure out what you want to say. Did you read the above statement again? Does it make sense to you as it is written?
                            And please don't wheel out the old "English is not my first language" excuse.
                            English is not my first language either, it is my third! But I try to give it all the respect it merits as the world's premier tool of communication.
                            By the way, you're not the only poster that butchers the English on ChessTalk. There are many others. I wish they would all have their children proof read what they write!

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                            • #44
                              Re: Toronto bids for 2016 Chess Olympics

                              Originally posted by Vlad Dobrich View Post
                              It is more like being in a teams event and betting one of your team mates will lose, is it not?
                              Clearly, you must feel that the Toronto bid is a huge underdog which they probably are and in a betting situation, a sporting bet would include setting a line say for example: "I will lay 5 -1 odds that it will not happen." In other words you might offer to bet $100 against $20. And I'm sure you must know this and you're just trying to clip $20 here and there with minimal risk.
                              It depends on the team mate and the competition. Not all team mates are created equal. It also depends if betting on the outcome of an event where a person is participating is legal. Sometimes it's not.

                              A wager with odds is not what I had in mind. I'm interested in wagering with someone who thinks there will be a successful bid and not someone looking for a chance on a roulette wheel.

                              It's not like they don't have any chance of success.
                              Gary Ruben
                              CC - IA and SIM

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                              • #45
                                Re: Toronto bids for 2016 Chess Olympics

                                Originally posted by Mikhail Egorov View Post
                                Now I know that statement: "Same minds think alike" exists for a reason.. :D
                                lol...actually the phrase is "Great minds think alike!"

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