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  • #76
    Re: Making Money Work for You!- Tax Credit?

    Hi Jordan:

    I'm willing to go to school on this, but I don't think I'm wrong.

    I realize that the 75% of the donation is returned as a tax credit, not a " refund ".

    But if I normally would owe $ 100 of tax, then on an $ 80 donation, do I not get a tax credit of $ 60, to set off against the $ 100 I owe. Thus I only pay $ 40 tax, and I get in effect $ 60 of my political donation back.

    The 75% is not a deduction from taxable income, which I think is what you were saying.

    Am I still off-base here? I really wish Gary could think outside the box on this one, if I'm right. Of course, if he has no tax to pay, then I guess it doesn't work for him. I'll have to make the $80 donation myself, with the effective $ 20 cost being paid by my winnings from our bet!

    Bob A

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    • #77
      Re: Making Money Work for You!- Tax Credit?

      Bob,

      Read my posting again. It's a "deduction", not a "credit".

      Jordan
      No matter how big and bad you are, when a two-year-old hands you a toy phone, you answer it.

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      • #78
        Re: Making Money Work for You!- Tax Credit?

        Hi Jordan:

        Sorry I missed that - but the effect is the same - the tax otherwise owing is reduced by the amount of the deduction of $ 60. So it only costs me in effect $ 20 to contribute $80, so long as I do have tax against which to apply the deduction.

        Bob

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        • #79
          Re: Making Money Work for You!- Tax Credit?

          Bob,

          Let me put it to you this way: You're completely wrong.

          Do you understand now? If not, call 1-800-959-8281 and ask an agent.

          Jordan

          PS: I used to answer that line, so I already know what they'll tell you.
          No matter how big and bad you are, when a two-year-old hands you a toy phone, you answer it.

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          • #80
            Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

            Hi Bob,

            I'd like your chances better if you'd have bet the NDP would win the next Ontario election rather than getting stuck with them in the federal election.
            Gary Ruben
            CC - IA and SIM

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            • #81
              Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

              I'm not sure about the chances for the NDP becoming the Ontario provincial government in the next provincial election. I think the odds are lower than for the NDP federally. Ontario is not a hotbed of NDP activity as far as I can see - but I do think Horvath is doing a good job.

              Bob

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              • #82
                Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

                Well, Hudak should be soaring in the polls and it's not happening. Unless you think Ontario will vote Liberal again it only leaves the NDP.
                Gary Ruben
                CC - IA and SIM

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                • #83
                  Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

                  Hi Gary:

                  Minority Gov't elected:

                  1. Liberals ( new leader )
                  2. NDP
                  3. P.C's

                  My projection. What's yours?

                  Bob

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                  • #84
                    Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

                    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
                    Hi Gary:

                    Minority Gov't elected:

                    1. Liberals ( new leader )
                    2. NDP
                    3. P.C's

                    My projection. What's yours?

                    Bob
                    The NDP should get the union vote the liberals lost. Also a lot of liberals who are worried about losing jobs and wasteful spending. Also a bigger share of the female vote. The Liberals could end up in third place.

                    The PC's could use someone who presents a more positive tone.

                    I doubt a new leader for the Libs will do the trick. The renewal they need is 10 or 15 years out of power.
                    Gary Ruben
                    CC - IA and SIM

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                    • #85
                      Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

                      Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                      The NDP should get the union vote the liberals lost. Also a lot of liberals who are worried about losing jobs and wasteful spending. Also a bigger share of the female vote. The Liberals could end up in third place.

                      The PC's could use someone who presents a more positive tone.

                      I doubt a new leader for the Libs will do the trick. The renewal they need is 10 or 15 years out of power.
                      Apparently Hudak didn't get a memo telling him that he should be outraged that parliament was shut down, but that government business was still going to be conducted behind closed doors, e.g. with the teachers' union.

                      The Opposition should be sitting in Queen's Park, without the Liberals there, as a protest, and so that any Ontario voters ignorant of what the Liberals have done will see a photo of the Opposition there, but with no one from the Liberal Government.
                      Last edited by Kevin Pacey; Wednesday, 24th October, 2012, 06:27 PM. Reason: Spelling
                      Anything that can go wrong will go wrong.
                      Murphy's law, by Edward A. Murphy Jr., USAF, Aerospace Engineer

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                      • #86
                        Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't?

                        It sounds a lot like Clint talking to the empty chair. I don't think that was a success.

                        Anyhow, maybe the Cons want to see who wins the liberal leadership. They may or may not want to force an early election.
                        Gary Ruben
                        CC - IA and SIM

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                        • #87
                          Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't? - CPC Scandal

                          Hi Gary:

                          CPC - campaign donation scandal at ministerial level - Minister of Intergovernmental Affairs, Peter Penashue

                          Think the CPC can continue to survive its incompetence and scandals to hold on in the next federal election??

                          It will be a cliff hanger, but the NDP will win it in the next election ( and Trudeau & the LPC will not derail it! ).

                          You should ask the CPC to reimbuse you, for their assisting me in my bet, when you have to pay up the 20 big ones.

                          Bob A
                          Last edited by Bob Armstrong; Saturday, 3rd November, 2012, 12:47 AM.

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                          • #88
                            Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't? - CPC Scandal

                            Hi Bob,

                            Probably they can survive. I don't know how the voters will view Trudeau if he wins. Probably him and Mulcair will split votes.

                            Now I'm watching the Smith inquest. It's shocking. If you get the Toronto Star you're probably up on all this stuff.

                            Gary
                            Gary Ruben
                            CC - IA and SIM

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                            • #89
                              Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't? - Strategic Voting

                              Hi Gary:

                              About vote-splitting between NDP and LPC - I think that strategic voting is going to play a large role in the NDP win - Liberal voters will be so wanting to get rid of the CPC, that they will vote NDP, over Liberal, to achieve it ( despite perhaps, Trudeau's best efforts ).

                              Bob A

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                              • #90
                                Re: Canada - Next Federal Gov't? - Strategic Voting

                                Hi Bob,

                                I don't know if strategic voting has much of an impact. Usually a person votes for the political party they like or a candidate they like.

                                Probably the next election will come down to if Harper has done enough to win re-election. Probably he has so far.

                                On the other hand, Trudeau is young and dynamic. Lots of energy. He could easily win the female and young voters as well as those who routinely voted for his father.

                                Gary
                                Gary Ruben
                                CC - IA and SIM

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