COVID-19 ... how we cope :)

[Bob Armstrong]

Hi Guys:

It is my view that there always will be some inequality.......some are simply more adaptable than others (Darwin - survival of the most adaptable).

And ..... yes......DM's policy is to try to move towards greater equality (Total equality will not be possible, as Neil opines).

But the "main" DM goal is to progressively close the current obscene wage gap, inevitably the result of Capitalism. How much the gap can be narrowed will be seen in the implementation of DM and how the local community concretizes it for itself.

Bob A (DM'er)

P.S. I think we are straying here from COVID-19..........likely this conversation should be in the Human Self-Government thread, no?

[Dilip Panjwani]

I think folks like Bob A. want equality. Force something that is not natural.

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Much love,
n.

Right. But even in Marxism, 'equality' is elusive, because when everyone tries to work less and play more, the crooks succeed and the honest ones lose badly...

[Neil Frarey]

It seems that Bob A is hoping (in his response to my post #3375) that 'the hard and smart working' get stuck in 'villages' adopting DM because of size limits elsewhere... just like Bob G's objection to Sid's post (beyond a certain limit, CO2 does not trap much heat) was that it would mean the oil companies could pump a lot more! Would someone please find an explanation that these Bobs have not become sadistic (I would hate it if this was true)?

I think folks like Bob A. want equality. Force something that is not natural.

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Much love,
n.

[Dilip Panjwani]

Hi Dilip:

People would be free to move, but there likely would have to be a limit to the size of a local political unit........otherwise we would again get metropolises.

And it a local political unit was so bad it was losing population, then it likely would be forced to solve whatever the problem was! That seems a good dynamic.

Bob A (As Participant)

It seems that Bob A is hoping (in his response to my post #3375) that 'the hard and smart working' get stuck in 'villages' adopting DM because of size limits elsewhere... just like Bob G's objection to Sid's post (beyond a certain limit, CO2 does not trap much heat) was that it would mean the oil companies could pump a lot more! Would someone please find an explanation that these Bobs have not become sadistic (I would hate it if this was true)?

[Bob Armstrong]

Hi Dilip:

People would be free to move, but there likely would have to be a limit to the size of a local political unit........otherwise we would again get metropolises.

And it a local political unit was so bad it was losing population, then it likely would be forced to solve whatever the problem was! That seems a good dynamic.

Bob A (As Participant)

[Dilip Panjwani]

If I'm understanding what it is you're proposing, I think it's unworkable and undesirable. If you have (tens of) thousands of self-governing villages, how would you ever deal efficiently with all of the disparities of geography and economic potential? How would you deal with funding/building the physical/legal infrastructure needed to support inter-village dealings like trade? How, for example, would you deal with poverty-stricken villages that have no prospects for improving themselves because all of their scarce resources are used up by their subsistence-level existence?

I do not think that Bob is advocating 'isolated' villages, but rather 'circles within circles', in which just a few steps to 'bigger circles' could encompass the entire world (just do the simple math)! Unfortunately for Bob, such a system could work and also be the most desirable only if everyone is Libertarian-minded, in other words, everyone sticks to accepting and dealing fairly with fundamental human nature and does not try to institute an artificial faulty system like DM or Capitalism.

[Peter McKillop]

If the Earth was all local political units (A collection of villages), then we could have direct democracy, eliminate representative democracy (Politicians), and government would be the secretariat for carrying out the will of the people.

It is not a pipe dream.......it just needs people to come forward and demand it.

Bob

If I'm understanding what it is you're proposing, I think it's unworkable and undesirable. If you have (tens of) thousands of self-governing villages, how would you ever deal efficiently with all of the disparities of geography and economic potential? How would you deal with funding/building the physical/legal infrastructure needed to support inter-village dealings like trade? How, for example, would you deal with poverty-stricken villages that have no prospects for improving themselves because all of their scarce resources are used up by their subsistence-level existence?

[Dilip Panjwani]

If the Earth was all local political units (A collection of villages), then we could have direct democracy, eliminate representative democracy (Politicians), and government would be the secretariat for carrying out the will of the people.

It is not a pipe dream.......it just needs people to come forward and demand it.

Bob A

Yes, that could work very well, except in the 'villages' adopting DM, from where the hard and smart working would leave in a hurry, leaving behind 'citizens' only good at eyeing other people's money and being unable to do so any more!

[Bob Armstrong]

If the Earth was all local political units (A collection of villages), then we could have direct democracy, eliminate representative democracy (Politicians), and government would be the secretariat for carrying out the will of the people.

It is not a pipe dream.......it just needs people to come forward and demand it.

Bob A

[Neil Frarey]

Hi Neal,
Too many of her type in USA... not enough room in that country's prisons for all of them...

Hi Dilip,

You know how I measure the 'human' value of most any politician?

Local level or broader level?

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Hopeful people ... wanting people ... with their desires and ambitions to become Politicians ... are so very earnest and so very heart felt with their oh-so-personal front door knocking and telephone calling.

Yes?

We have all experienced, in our own private homes, their personal appearances, right? Door-to-door ... face-to-face. Robocalling urgency.

So where are they AFTER they win ... AFTER they lose???

Where? Huh? Where?

That, Dilip, is the measure of a sincere human! One who is to represent you and me! After they win or lose ... come by our homes ... make that call ... just take a moment to say ... thank you.


That, Dilip, is the true measure of a human being.

[Sid Belzberg]

Hi Neal,
Too many of her type in USA... not enough room in that country's prisons for all of them...

Same in Canada

[Dilip Panjwani]

Sen. Elizabeth Warren D-Mass



While serving 10 years in Congress with an annual salary of $193,000, she managed to increase her net worth to $73,000,000.

Hi Neal,
Too many of her type in USA... not enough room in that country's prisons for all of them...

[Neil Frarey]

Sen. Elizabeth Warren D-Mass

"I think we should be imposing mask mandates, I believe that requiring people to vaccinate so we have safe workplaces just makes a lot of sense."

While serving 10 years in Congress with an annual salary of $193,000, she managed to increase her net worth to $73,000,000.

[Neil Frarey]

Message to the Unvaccinated

https://www.tiktok.com/@godisinsideu..._from_webapp=1

... the best part of humanity

... they are the superheros

... they did what others can not

Thanks again Brad Wylde ... for sure we are all of that and so much more, eh!

[Neil Frarey]

Message to the Unvaccinated

https://www.tiktok.com/@godisinsideu...nder_device=pc

...they are the special kind

...conquered horizons

...passed an unimaginable test

...

Thanks for that Brad Wylde ... for sure we are all of that and so much more, eh!