COVID-19 ... how we cope :)

[Neil Frarey]

COVID-19 pandemic China lab leak >>> governments lock down free people and give them free money, trillions of dollars >>> crushing high interest rates and inflation hits back, hard >>> banks fail.

Trump / DeSantis 2024 !!!

[Neil Frarey]

Governments forcing these useless, harmful injections on the population is the greatest crime against humanity ever perpetrated.

Fed centralized cryptocurrency coming next.

Humans are easy.

Or ... are they?

[Sid Belzberg]

The top part of the chart gives the population 'N' in each group...

I agree that the numbers are too small to be statistically significant, proving Dr. Fauci's recent conclusion that these vaccines were a public health failure. The point of the paper I showed you is those early therapeutics reduced hospitalization by 85% in high-risk patients within the unvaccinated cohort.(see attachment) Our pharma-corrupted governments banned this to ensure all roads led to mass vaccination. Also, especially in the older cohorts that are fully boosted, Vaccine Fatality Rates are 1%.

Dr Fauci's recent admission that the injections were useless and a public health failure.

https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?...2822%2900572-8

As I pointed out in another thread, the injections were harmful:

Correlation Research in the Public Interest has published a new report entitled “Age-stratified COVID-19 vaccine-dose fatality rate for Israel and Australia”.

The report was authored by Denis G. Rancourt, Marine Baudin, Joseph Hickey, and Jérémie Mercier.

In the report, the vaccine-dose fatality rate (the ratio of vaccine-induced deaths to vaccine doses delivered in a population) from the COVID-19 vaccines is found to increase exponentially with age and to be close to 1% for the oldest age group.

The authors also estimate a global total of approximately 13 million deaths from the COVID-19 vaccines.

The report contains a detailed explanation of the methodology used, with accompanying technical appendices.

Governments were insisting even COVID recovered take the injections insisting that natural immunity given to the COVID infected is does not exist, defying the entire
basis of the science of immunology.

This published paper shows Natural Immunity is Robust and superior to vaccine-induced immunity. So why the hell was millions of people that were already recovered from COVID forced to damage their excellent Natural immunity with these injections????
Anyone who thinks the government is here to help is out of their mind!

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...465-5/fulltext

Governments forcing these useless, harmful injections on the population is the greatest crime against humanity ever perpetrated. As far as age stratification id concerned given that these were supposed to be aimed at the elderly population age stratification still does not refute that the more doses, the more the immune system is destroyed. The older cohort is statistically significant. The younger cohort is not.

Giving the elderly and immunocompromised the third dose was medical malpractice. Even though it was advertised, they needed it the most they were the ones that needed to avoid it.

[Dilip Panjwani]

Do you have the link that gives the population for each cohort by age or are you taking rough estimates from the first part of the chart?

The top part of the chart gives the population 'N' in each group...

[Sid Belzberg]

What the figures show is the number of deaths, not the death rates; if you roughly calculate the death rates, they seem to be higher in the unvaccinated. However, given the small differences, it would not be surprising if some feel that they should not take the vaccine...

Do you have the link that gives the population for each cohort by age or are you taking rough estimates from the first part of the chart? Supposedly the main beneficiaries of these injections were the +60 group and it appears by the percentage that they are far worst off in the two and three dose category compared to the unvaccinated by percentage. In fact, even these figures show the more doses this group takes the worst off they are.
Vaccines for groups under 60 make zero sense as they were at a statistically zero risk for Covid death. Here is a paper a working group of us did regarding COVID treatments for high-risk children and adolescents at that time. (Delta variant)
https://earlycovidcare.org/wp-conten...-Treatment.pdf

[Dilip Panjwani]

You must be seeing something I am not, the bottom part of the graph shows in all cases lower death rates for the unvaccinated. with two exceptions, 3 doses for the 40-49 group as very few in the cohort got a third dose and the one-dose cohort where very few that got one dose did not follow up with the second dose. The problems show up at two doses which is the largest cohort for under 70.

What the figures show is the number of deaths, not the death rates; if you roughly calculate the death rates, they seem to be higher in the unvaccinated. However, given the small differences, it would not be surprising if some feel that they should not take the vaccine...

[Sid Belzberg]

Thank you, Sid, for putting up these figures. A cursory look appears to confirm the initial impression that the death rate, when stratified by age groups is higher in the unvaccinated group, right?
Not a reason for the government to force vaccinations on anyone, though...

You must be seeing something I am not, the bottom part of the graph shows in all cases lower death rates for the unvaccinated. with two exceptions, 3 doses for the 40-49 group as very few in the cohort got a third dose and the one-dose cohort where very few that got one dose did not follow up with the second dose. The problems show up at two doses which is the largest cohort for under 70.

[Dilip Panjwani]

The weekly Canada epidemiology reports omitted age-stratified data. However, the British Columbia data has age-stratified data. The mortality endpoint, in particular, clearly shows the more doses, the more the immune system is destroyed. Elderly and immunocompromised people should have been the group that needed to avoid these injections the most unless the goal was to kill off this group.

Thank you, Sid, for putting up these figures. A cursory look appears to confirm the initial impression that the death rate, when stratified by age groups is higher in the unvaccinated group, right?
Not a reason for the government to force vaccinations on anyone, though...

[Sid Belzberg]

Carbon dioxide rises beyond acceptable safety levels in children under nose and mouth covering: Results of an experimental measurement study in healthy children


Nose and mouth covering (NMC) has been made compulsory for children in many countries during the Covid-19 pandemic.

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Abstract


Nose and mouth covering (NMC) has been made compulsory for children in many countries during the Covid-19 pandemic. We wanted to determine the average CO₂ levels in inhaled air with NMC in children between age 6 and 17. We used short term measurements under surgical masks and FFP2 masks according to European norm EN 149, compared to baseline in an experimental, intra-individually controlled study over 25 min. CO₂ content was measured every 15 s using an automated dual-wavelength infrared CO₂ measurement device (G100, Geotech, Leamington Spa, UK) over 25 min in a short-term experimental setting, with children seated. After baseline measurement children were provided with two types of commonly worn NMC: surgical masks and FFP2--masks in randomized sequence for 3 min each. We kept ambient CO₂-levels below 1000 parts per million (ppm) through frequent ventilation. We measured breathing frequency and pulse as potential physiological moderator variables. Forty-five children, 25 boys, 20 girls, with a mean age of 10.7 years (standard deviation 2.6) were measured. We measured 13,100 ppm (SD 380) under surgical mask and 13,900 ppm (SD 370) under FFP2 mask in inhaled air. A linear model with age as a covariate showed a highly significant effect of the condition (p < 1*10⁻⁹). We measured 2,700 ppm (SD 100) CO₂ at pre-baseline and 2,800 ppm (SD 100) at post-baseline, a non-significant small difference. Appropriate contrasts revealed that the change was due to the masks only and the difference between the two types of masks was small and not significant. Wearing of NMC (surgical masks or FFP2- -masks) raises CO₂ content in inhaled air quickly to a very high level in healthy children in a seated resting position that might be hazardous to children's health.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9142210/

[Sid Belzberg]

Hi Sid,
Do you have info presented in this graph stratified by age groups? That would be very helpful to be sure that the differences seen are not due to differences in the ages of the 4 groups shown, given that the more vaccinated belonged to an older age group in Canada.
Kind regards.
D

The weekly Canada epidemiology reports omitted age-stratified data. However, the British Columbia data has age-stratified data. The mortality endpoint, in particular, clearly shows the more doses, the more the immune system is destroyed. Elderly and immunocompromised people should have been the group that needed to avoid these injections the most unless the goal was to kill off this group.

[Dilip Panjwani]

Hi Sid,
Do you have info presented in this graph stratified by age groups? That would be very helpful to be sure that the differences seen are not due to differences in the ages of the 4 groups shown, given that the more vaccinated belonged to an older age group in Canada.
Kind regards.
D

[Sid Belzberg]

Good morning Bob A.

I appreciate your efforts at continuing the dialogue on this topic, but it is painfully obvious to me and probably most others now that it has devolved into basically just you and Sid. I doubt either of you will convince the other of anything. I suggest you just claim victory, go outside, and enjoy the sunshine.

This is a very complex topic, there will be hundreds of future studies, many contradicting the others. We really won't get a clear picture, a proper post mordem, for years to come. Done by those truly unbiased and probably done by a future generation who only read about the pandemic in history books.

This is a very complex topic,

It only became a very "complex subject" to you when the data proved that you were dead wrong!

[Bob Gillanders]

Good morning Bob A.

I appreciate your efforts at continuing the dialogue on this topic, but it is painfully obvious to me and probably most others now that it has devolved into basically just you and Sid. I doubt either of you will convince the other of anything. I suggest you just claim victory, go outside, and enjoy the sunshine.

This is a very complex topic, there will be hundreds of future studies, many contradicting the others. We really won't get a clear picture, a proper post mordem, for years to come. Done by those truly unbiased and probably done by a future generation who only read about the pandemic in history books.

[Sid Belzberg]

IF fact

What part of it do you not believe? Data is data. Unless you think the longest-running weather observatory is lying,
it is a FACT! Sorry if such a simple fact busts your balloon regarding the trustworthiness of governments and the MSM. Did it ever occur to you that oil companies profit the most from this sham? I already posted on the history of Maurice Strong, a Canadian Oil Man that decades ago, was a founding member of the WEF and pushed this nonsense that CO2 is a control button to the climate to induce oil and energy shortages and artificially cause the price to go up because of reduced supply. Yes, he made billions doing this. Chevron showed record profits this year!
Funny how the WEF-controlled MSM does not like talking about this, huh? Nothing altruistic at all about this, Bob. The whole thing is bullshit!

Are you aware of the study done in the middle of the pandemic in the USA that established that of all vulnerable groups of the population, senior diabetics had the highest mortality and the highest ICU hospitalization?

Of course, this is precisely the group deemed "useless" eaters that WEF and its client states want dead! You are aware that the WEF have infiltrated Govts and their cabinets Worldwide?
Especially here in Canada, where Trudeau is a "WEF Young Global Leader" and our deputy prime minister Crystia Freeland is also deputy director of the WEF. The top people running the WEF are descendants of Nazis, including Klauss Schwab, whose father was a close confidante of Adolf Hitler and who ran slave labor camps during WW2 that got awards as "model businesses" by the Nazi regime.
The virus was modified to be highly infectious, and its modifications, including the HIVGP120 protein from the AIDS virus, were inserted into the thing so that if left untreated early would progress to induce every disease possible. The good news is that most people with healthy immune systems with natural immunity eliminate the viral infection before it progresses and delivers its toxic payload, the spike protein.
Simply taking FDA-approved repurposed drugs cocktail or even essential nutraceuticals like vitamin D and zinc reduces the probability of progression of hospitalization by 85%! The government suppressed all of these solutions and gave guidelines not to treat at all and let the thing progress until you are blue in the face and end up in the emergency. WHY? the goal was to mass "vaccinate" and ensure this was the ONLY "solution." It is a solution, as the Nazis called it, The Final Solution!
The virus was created, so that big pharma and its corrupted WEF governments around had an excuse to sell vaccines that were made and patented before the virus existed,
I don't blame you. that you trusted the MSM and made bad decisions as a result. I blame you for continuing to make bad decisions by trusting the MSM.


The most toxic part of SArsCOV2 is the spike protein; the vaxes turn your body into a spike protein factory indefinitely. It is the biggest failure and medical catastrophe in history and was planned to be that way. I urge you to listen to this free documentary about holocaust survivors that have seen this movie before and recognize what is going on now as an even bigger genocide orchestrated by the descendants of these Nazis!

https://live.childrenshealthdefense....is-now-global/

[Bob Armstrong]

Hi Sid:

Yes I have a position. But I feel I have considered your material, and I have admitted that some of it has sent me back to my research death, because the points made are critically important, IF fact.

In March 2020, I was 74 y.o.. I had been a Type 2 Diabetic for years......so a senior diabetic.

Are you aware of the study done in the middle of the pandemic in the USA that established that of all vulnerable groups of the population, senior diabetics had the highest mortality and the highest ICU hospitalization.

After the WHO declaration, COVID-19 ravaged the world..........surely you know that the "7 million deaths from COVID-19" is a gross under-reporting by countries hiding the lack of containment they were able to implement.

There was definite danger.........incontrovertible at the time.

I find you very arrogant to disparage those who trusted the MSS & MSM, and accessed what was then THE one way to "lessen" the severity of the illness if contracted, and to lower the percentage risk of death and ICU hospitalization.

Maybe you and your minority are correct....I'm not yet convinced, though you have raised concerns supported by some evidence.....or at least you may be able to raise serious doubt about the medical establishment information presentation at the time.

But I do not appreciate your best wishes that I do not die shortly from the spiked protein of the vaccination, or your dismissive attitude towards my analysis of my situation, and that of my wife who has a fatal heart condition, when the pandemic was just breaking on the world, and my decision to be vaccinated, and so recommending to my wife, also a senior.

This is not in any way any criticism of your well-intentioned intent to try to prove facts different from those alleged by the MSS & MSM.

Bob A