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The Smart and Hardworking (Example: Bob A!)
Dilip Panjwani - Post # 3387 - 23/9/19
"did Bob A not hope that moving away from 'villages' with DM may not be possible for the 'smart and hard working'?"
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What I said was that the smart and hardworking must receive some type of recognition for their greater contribution to the common good in an Earth composed of Democratic Marxist "Villages". But DM will not allow a society with obscene wage gaps such as exist, of necessity, in all Capitalist nations on the globe. This will not be their reward.
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Dilip "quoted" me as follows:
Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
Hi Guys:
the current obscene wage gap, inevitably the result of Political Corruption
Bob A (DM'er)
This is not allowed. You cannot "claim" to be quoting me, and then revise my statement in the quote without any notice to the viewer that this is your statement, not mine!!
The Quote was:
"the current obscene wage gap, inevitably the result of Capitalism [Emphasis added]" - Post # 3382 - 23/9/19.
Bob A (DM'er)
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Originally posted by Fred Harvey View Post
What is the old saying? Don't mud wrestle with pigs, because the pigs will enjoy it.......
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Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
Hold on there......is this post acceptable?
My first thought was well...let's check the dictionary,
Sadistic - taking pleasure in the infliction of pain, punishment, or humiliation of others.
Dilip, would you like to withdraw your comments?
And did Bob A not hope that moving away from 'villages' with DM may not be possible for the 'smart and hard working'?
You even explicitly refused to explain your statement, and so I was left with interpreting your statement as best as I could...Last edited by Dilip Panjwani; Tuesday, 19th September, 2023, 01:17 PM.
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Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
Hold on there......is this post acceptable?
My first thought was well...let's check the dictionary,
Sadistic - taking pleasure in the infliction of pain, punishment, or humiliation of others.
Dilip, would you like to withdraw your comments?
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Originally posted by Dilip Panjwani View Post
It seems that Bob A is hoping (in his response to my post #3375) that 'the hard and smart working' get stuck in 'villages' adopting DM because of size limits elsewhere... just like Bob G's objection to Sid's post (beyond a certain limit, CO2 does not trap much heat) was that it would mean the oil companies could pump a lot more! Would someone please find an explanation that these Bobs have not become sadistic (I would hate it if this was true)?
My first thought was well...let's check the dictionary,
Sadistic - taking pleasure in the infliction of pain, punishment, or humiliation of others.
Dilip, would you like to withdraw your comments?
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Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View PostHi Guys:
Bob A (DM'er)
P.S. likely this conversation should be in the Human Self-Government thread, no?
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Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View PostHi Guys:
the current obscene wage gap, inevitably the result of Political Corruption
Bob A (DM'er)
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Hi Guys:
It is my view that there always will be some inequality.......some are simply more adaptable than others (Darwin - survival of the most adaptable).
And ..... yes......DM's policy is to try to move towards greater equality (Total equality will not be possible, as Neil opines).
But the "main" DM goal is to progressively close the current obscene wage gap, inevitably the result of Capitalism. How much the gap can be narrowed will be seen in the implementation of DM and how the local community concretizes it for itself.
Bob A (DM'er)
P.S. I think we are straying here from COVID-19..........likely this conversation should be in the Human Self-Government thread, no?
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Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
I think folks like Bob A. want equality. Force something that is not natural.
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n.
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Originally posted by Dilip Panjwani View Post
It seems that Bob A is hoping (in his response to my post #3375) that 'the hard and smart working' get stuck in 'villages' adopting DM because of size limits elsewhere... just like Bob G's objection to Sid's post (beyond a certain limit, CO2 does not trap much heat) was that it would mean the oil companies could pump a lot more! Would someone please find an explanation that these Bobs have not become sadistic (I would hate it if this was true)?
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Much love,
n.
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Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View PostHi Dilip:
People would be free to move, but there likely would have to be a limit to the size of a local political unit........otherwise we would again get metropolises.
And it a local political unit was so bad it was losing population, then it likely would be forced to solve whatever the problem was! That seems a good dynamic.
Bob A (As Participant)
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Hi Dilip:
People would be free to move, but there likely would have to be a limit to the size of a local political unit........otherwise we would again get metropolises.
And it a local political unit was so bad it was losing population, then it likely would be forced to solve whatever the problem was! That seems a good dynamic.
Bob A (As Participant)
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Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post
If I'm understanding what it is you're proposing, I think it's unworkable and undesirable. If you have (tens of) thousands of self-governing villages, how would you ever deal efficiently with all of the disparities of geography and economic potential? How would you deal with funding/building the physical/legal infrastructure needed to support inter-village dealings like trade? How, for example, would you deal with poverty-stricken villages that have no prospects for improving themselves because all of their scarce resources are used up by their subsistence-level existence?Last edited by Dilip Panjwani; Sunday, 17th September, 2023, 01:21 PM.
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Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View PostIf the Earth was all local political units (A collection of villages), then we could have direct democracy, eliminate representative democracy (Politicians), and government would be the secretariat for carrying out the will of the people.
It is not a pipe dream.......it just needs people to come forward and demand it.
Bob
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