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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Thanks Sid - very detailed analysis.......I will take some time with it.

    Obviously I am not happy with my take on your proposition (I am not sure you are actually going this far):

    All mainstream medical researchers/scientists, AND all the industry magazines that publish their reports, are compromised by the tainted money of Big Pharma.

    ~ Bob A (T-S/P)

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    Human Health

    COVID-19/Omicron

    "As new Omicron-specific boosters become available in the U.S., a study published today in JAMA Internal Medicine emphasizes the importance and success of boosters in keeping people infected with COVID-19 out of the hospital."

    https://time.com/6211921/covid-19-bo...lctg=206908353

    ~ Bob A (T-S/P)
    Hi Bob,
    In the last decade or so high, quality medical journals have been corrupted by the large pharma companies that dictate what is published with the threat
    of withdrawal of sponsorship if these dictates are not followed. The same is true for the actual investigators
    During the Pandemic the most infamous example of this was the anti HCQ article in The Lancet published by Mehra et al that had to be retracted weeks later as
    the data was proven to be literally created out of thin air.
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...180-6/fulltext
    The goal at the time was to discredit all therpeutics and make sure all roads led to mass vaccination.

    As far as the article you have posted here is concerned, these investigators are on the big pharma corruption payroll.:
    followthemoney.org” is a very interesting tool for looking for potential conflicts of interest:

    For Fiona P. Havers: https://www.followthemoney.org/entit...s?eid=42181209

    For Huangmai Pham: https://www.followthemoney.org/entit...s?eid=19504449

    For Christopher A. Taylor: couldn’t be sure as there are multiple and none seemed to fit a medical researcher

    For Michael Whitaker: couldn’t be sure as there are multiple and none seemed to fit a medical researcher

    For Meredith McMorrow: https://www.followthemoney.org/entit...s?eid=50293168 and https://www.followthemoney.org/entit...s?eid=54805491

    I didn’t go through more—just the first 4 and last author, but I think you get the picture, especially with the first author’s activity. In an article our medical forum published on political donations and hydroxychloroquine use in COVID (attached) we found a similar donation pattern. At this point in time, it is not enough just to list monetary income from drug companies. Medical publications have come to have a political component as well, and readers should be able to consider that when weighing the purpose of articles and if there may be an unintentional skew to the experimental design and the findings.

    If that is not enough the study itself has many obvious short comings.



    The "key point" conclusion does not match the study which was over 16 months. not the 4 "OMICRON" months : " Findings In this cross-sectional study of US adults hospitalized with COVID-19 during January 2022 to April 2022 (during Omicron variant predominance), COVID-19-associated hospitalization rates were 10.5 times higher in unvaccinated persons and 2.5 times higher in vaccinated persons with no booster dose, respectively, compared with those who had received a booster dose."

    But the study period for the article was January, 2021 to April, 2022. This is the title-
    "COVID-19-Associated Hospitalizations Among Vaccinated and Unvaccinated Adults 18 Years or Older in 13 US States, January 2021 to April 2022"

    They did not extract 2022 data from the remainder to reach the "key point." Therefore mixing in early data when very few people were vaccinated ie January 2021 completely tilts the data to the unvaccinated group.

    This is a favorite trick of the Canadian Govt data that always go back to mid December 2020 when showing data when no one was vaccinated and you end up with a result like this:

    https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/

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    But when you take two reports and subtract the prior report from the current report to get the time period in question that does not mix in data when no one was vaccinated in the beginning of the vaccine roll out, you get a result more like this.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20220427...-19-cases.html
    https://web.archive.org/web/20220614...a.ca/covid-19/

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    The injections are neither safe nor effective!
    https://doctors4covidethics.org/vasc...-of-causality/

    Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Monday, 12th September, 2022, 02:39 PM.

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Human Health

    COVID-19/Omicron

    "As new Omicron-specific boosters become available in the U.S., a study published today in JAMA Internal Medicine emphasizes the importance and success of boosters in keeping people infected with COVID-19 out of the hospital."

    https://time.com/6211921/covid-19-bo...lctg=206908353

    ~ Bob A (T-S/P)

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  • Tom O'Donnell
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    One of CNN's medical propagandists, er, I mean experts:

    "...Rather, my approach to this school year reflects the evolution of the pandemic and the acknowledgment that avoiding covid-19 cannot be the singular metric of people’s overall health and well-being."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...-masks-school/

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  • Albert Hainer
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    Originally posted by Tom O'Donnell View Post
    Posted May 20th, 2020. Over two years later, and I stand by what I wrote back then. If anything, I feel it more strongly now.


    I'm inclined to agree with this. I think the quarantine, although necessary of course, has had a negative impact in some ways that more people need to realize.

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Tom O'Donnell View Post
    Posted May 20th, 2020. Over two years later, and I stand by what I wrote back then. If anything, I feel it more strongly now.


    A year later (Aug 2021) here was the then Canada Minister of Health's view of peer reviewed science on vitamin D that I posted here. Clearly they wanted people dead, not healthy

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  • Tom O'Donnell
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    Posted May 20th, 2020. Over two years later, and I stand by what I wrote back then. If anything, I feel it more strongly now.

    Originally posted by Tom O'Donnell View Post
    1) There appears to be a link between Vitamin D deficiency and bad Covid outcomes. One source of Vitamin D is sunshine. Fresh air and exercise also helps with ...

    2) Vitamin D is found to help with depression. I would be willing to bet that although social distancing and quarantining people for the first month was a net positive, over time the deleterious effects of prolonged quarantine (isolation, depression, alcoholism/drug abuse, spousal abuse, lack of exercise, boredom, increased stress due to job/income loss) is going to at the very least negate much of this. You save one basket of people by sacrificing another.

    On top of that the government has absolutely no right to extend the lockdown "for our protection". We are free citizens, and having voluntarily done our duty to allow government time to protect elderly and sickly people, have no reason to listen to them anymore. I consider it a matter of my public duty to go outside every day. Better to have people with robust immune systems get infected than have millions of people waiting, weakening, sitting around hoping things work out and "big daddy government" saves us. I refuse to live that way.

    The little dictators making the rules don't follow them. See: J Trudeau, D Ford, A Scheer, Mayor L Lightfoot (in the US), Gov JB Pritzker, UK's N Ferguson. If this pandemic has taught me one thing is that there are many wannabe dictators who want to tell everyone else how they should live.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Moderna is pissed, ha!

    They're suing both Pfizer and BioNTech for patent infringement.

    LOOL!!!

    mRNA tech brawl ... love it!!!

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post

    It may not matter because the Dems in the media will suppress it. The only way it matters is if Trump wins and the guilty are punished.
    Hello Trump-backed challenger Harriet Hageman ... bye bye Liz 'russia russia russia' Cheney, ha!

    Even though Trump hasn't declared his 2024 Presidential run the swamp continues to drain, ha!

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post

    A recently well done Canadian documentary.
    https://librti.com/view-video/uninformed-consent
    Thanks Sid!

    Sure hope mRNA tech side effects don't overwhelm the global population. But even so, people need to know the actual numbers of adverse events.

    For me, it's a personal choice to still be mRNA tech free.

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    LOOL!

    The dramatic increase in Excess Deaths has become so serious a concern that even the democrat's mainstream media can no longer ignore, ha!

    Backfire just like the FBI's raid on Mar-a-Lago
    A recently well done Canadian documentary.
    https://librti.com/view-video/uninformed-consent

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  • Neil Frarey
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    LOOL!

    The dramatic increase in Excess Deaths has become so serious a concern that even the democrat's mainstream media can no longer ignore, ha!

    Backfire just like the FBI's raid on Mar-a-Lago

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    And now barely there Biden has caught what is known as Rebound COVID.

    So ... you take how many pfizer shots and booster shots to prevent COVID-19? And then when you do catch COVID-19 you take pfizer's paxlovid to 'cure' COVID-19 ... and then when pfizer's paxlovid doesn't work then what? Another pfizer booster shot?? Perhaps a booster shot of pfizer's paxlovid?

    EPIC pfizer business model!!!
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  • Neil Frarey
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    And now barely there Biden has caught what is known as Rebound COVID.

    So ... you take how many pfizer shots and booster shots to prevent COVID-19? And then when you do catch COVID-19 you take pfizer's paxlovid to 'cure' COVID-19 ... and then when pfizer's paxlovid doesn't work then what? Another pfizer booster shot?? Perhaps a booster shot of pfizer's paxlovid?

    EPIC pfizer business model!!!

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    Social Distancing and Lockdowns were not new........we saw them in earlier world pandemics (Spanish Flu, etc.). The medical experts of 2020 and onward were building on what had gone before (It's just that many of us didn't know it, until the historian types started posting all these old photos and newspaper clippings).

    ~ Bob A (T-S/P)
    The big lie among many was the notion of asymptomatic transmission that led to all of the failed COVID restriction policies: This notion of asymptomatic transmission was disproven by Cao et al

    "The detection rate of asymptomatic positive cases was very low, and there was no evidence of transmission from asymptomatic positive persons to traced close contacts."

    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-020-19802-w



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