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  • Originally posted by Aris Marghetis View Post

    There's already studies that indicate better immunity amongst vaccinated people vs. recovered people. These studies are nationwide (not just anomalies such as the recent MA breakthrough).

    From my understanding, given just how "novel" COVID-19 is, it's quite challenging for the human immune system to adapt/defend. Hence the bigger-picture worthiness of life-saving vaccines?!
    I have to agree. The overwhelming body of evidence is in favour of vaccines. The USA is prime example, there is strong correlation between low vaccination rates and higher hospitalization rates. Yes, the effectiveness of vaccines declines some against variants and over time, but still delivers significant protection at this time. Booster shots will be required down the road.

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    • Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post

      I have to agree. The overwhelming body of evidence is in favour of vaccines. The USA is prime example, there is strong correlation between low vaccination rates and higher hospitalization rates. Yes, the effectiveness of vaccines declines some against variants and over time, but still delivers significant protection at this time. Booster shots will be required down the road.
      Show me a study that shows vaccine immunity trumps natural immunity. We will get behind the data, where is it? The overwhelming evidence is the efficacy of the vaccine was a flash in the pan that quickly ended when the Delta variant became the dominant strain. Natural immunity protects against variants and is long lasting.
      https://immunology.sciencemag.org/content/5/52/eabe0367
      https://www.bmj.com/content/372/bmj.n99
      https://science.sciencemag.org/conte.../6529/eabf4063
      https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....15.21249731v2
      https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.02.27.433180v1

      https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....06.21253051v1
      https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1...670v1.full.pdf
      https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1...04.28.441880v1
      https://www.cell.com/immunity/fullte...showall%3Dtrue

      https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03647-4


      Here is a proven way of COVID prevention against all variants,

      https://www.cureus.com/articles/6480...rkers#comments

      This just in from the Israeli health ministry
      https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/08/...ily+Newsletter
      Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Monday, 9th August, 2021, 10:45 AM.

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      • https://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2...adverse-events


        "Adverse events from drugs and vaccines are common, but underreported. Although 25% of ambulatory patients experience an adverse drug event, less than 0.3% of all adverse drug events and 1-13% of serious events are reported to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Likewise, fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported."
        https://digital.ahrq.gov/sites/defau...eport-2011.pdf

        German publication on German pathologist's report
        https://www.welt.de/vermischtes/arti...Geimpften.html
        English Translation
        https://freewestmedia.com/2021/08/03...cine-injuries/
        Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Sunday, 8th August, 2021, 06:34 PM.

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        • I have never met him, but this is how I picture him in my mind. :) Click image for larger version

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          • Originally posted by Brian Profit View Post
            I have never met him, but this is how I picture him in my mind. :) Click image for larger version  Name:	Screenshot_20210808-183813_Chrome.jpg Views:	0 Size:	14.1 KB ID:	214629
            Wow, he is so witty, I have never met this guy either but I imagined he dons snotty private school clothing with a stupid little crest on his lapel and this is the picture I had of him in my mind. :-)

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            • Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post

              Wow, he is so witty, I have never met this guy either but I imagined he dons snotty private school clothing with a stupid little crest on the breast pocket and this is the picture I had of him in my mind. :-)

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              Hey Sid, I, uh, don't want anyone to get the wrong idea **BUT** that is one good looking sheep!!
              "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
              "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
              "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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              • Originally posted by Brian Profit View Post
                I have never met him, but this is how I picture him in my mind. :) Click image for larger version

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                Brian, it's hard to tell for sure but if you enlarge that picture as much as possible ....... well, I think that guy has the missing bone chip from Lincoln's skull stuck in his hair. This could be big!!
                "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
                "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
                "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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                • this is me

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                  • Originally posted by Brian Profit View Post
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                    Meaningless statistic, most people were not vaccinated in Ontario. until late spring and it covers the period from December to now.
                    Here are several studies that she people with natural immunity far better off than vaccine immunity
                    https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....03.21259976v2
                    https://academic.oup.com/cid/advance...iab608/6314286
                    https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...ed-individuals
                    Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Monday, 9th August, 2021, 04:54 AM.

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                    • Originally posted by Lucas Davies View Post
                      this is me

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                      That's me in the back.

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                      "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
                      "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
                      "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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                      • Originally posted by Lucas Davies View Post
                        this is me

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                        Wow.... you are the future son of Spock, pictured just after ear surgery, and here now via time transport to change the world so that ChessTalk doesn't get too emotional!

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                        • Originally posted by Pargat Perrer View Post


                          Wow.... you are the future son of Spock, pictured just after ear surgery, and here now via time transport to change the world so that ChessTalk doesn't get too emotional!
                          Yes, but Pargat, now that we've all had this, um, wonderful .... opportunity (?) to see what Lucas looks like, don't you think that Lucas should edit the photo out of his post? After all, it is possible to have too much of a good thing. Right? Eh?
                          "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
                          "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
                          "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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                          • A more recent picture of him.

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                            • Originally posted by Brian Profit View Post
                              A more recent picture of him.

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                              Those guys are making a beginner's mistake. You're supposed to wear the tall (knee-high) black rubber boots so that you can immobilize the sheep by sticking its back legs in the boots. At least ..... that's what I've been told by those crazy dudes at the Punkeydoodles Corners Chess Club LLC.
                              "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
                              "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
                              "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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