If this is your first visit, be sure to
check out the FAQ by clicking the
link above. You may have to register
before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages,
select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
Policy / Politique
The fee for tournament organizers advertising on ChessTalk is $20/event or $100/yearly unlimited for the year.
Les frais d'inscription des organisateurs de tournoi sur ChessTalk sont de 20 $/événement ou de 100 $/année illimitée.
You can etransfer to Henry Lam at chesstalkforum at gmail dot com
Transfér à Henry Lam à chesstalkforum@gmail.com
Dark Knight / Le Chevalier Noir
General Guidelines
---- Nous avons besoin d'un traduction français!
Some Basics
1. Under Board "Frequently Asked Questions" (FAQs) there are 3 sections dealing with General Forum Usage, User Profile Features, and Reading and Posting Messages. These deal with everything from Avatars to Your Notifications. Most general technical questions are covered there. Here is a link to the FAQs. https://forum.chesstalk.com/help
2. Consider using the SEARCH button if you are looking for information. You may find your question has already been answered in a previous thread.
3. If you've looked for an answer to a question, and not found one, then you should consider asking your question in a new thread. For example, there have already been questions and discussion regarding: how to do chess diagrams (FENs); crosstables that line up properly; and the numerous little “glitches” that every new site will have.
4. Read pinned or sticky threads, like this one, if they look important. This applies especially to newcomers.
5. Read the thread you're posting in before you post. There are a variety of ways to look at a thread. These are covered under “Display Modes”.
6. Thread titles: please provide some details in your thread title. This is useful for a number of reasons. It helps ChessTalk members to quickly skim the threads. It prevents duplication of threads. And so on.
7. Unnecessary thread proliferation (e.g., deliberately creating a new thread that duplicates existing discussion) is discouraged. Look to see if a thread on your topic may have already been started and, if so, consider adding your contribution to the pre-existing thread. However, starting new threads to explore side-issues that are not relevant to the original subject is strongly encouraged. A single thread on the Canadian Open, with hundreds of posts on multiple sub-topics, is no better than a dozen threads on the Open covering only a few topics. Use your good judgment when starting a new thread.
8. If and/or when sub-forums are created, please make sure to create threads in the proper place.
Debate
9. Give an opinion and back it up with a reason. Throwaway comments such as "Game X pwnz because my friend and I think so!" could be considered pointless at best, and inflammatory at worst.
10. Try to give your own opinions, not simply those copied and pasted from reviews or opinions of your friends.
Unacceptable behavior and warnings
11. In registering here at ChessTalk please note that the same or similar rules apply here as applied at the previous Boardhost message board. In particular, the following content is not permitted to appear in any messages:
* Racism
* Hatred
* Harassment
* Adult content
* Obscene material
* Nudity or pornography
* Material that infringes intellectual property or other proprietary rights of any party
* Material the posting of which is tortious or violates a contractual or fiduciary obligation you or we owe to another party
* Piracy, hacking, viruses, worms, or warez
* Spam
* Any illegal content
* unapproved Commercial banner advertisements or revenue-generating links
* Any link to or any images from a site containing any material outlined in these restrictions
* Any material deemed offensive or inappropriate by the Board staff
12. Users are welcome to challenge other points of view and opinions, but should do so respectfully. Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated. Posts and threads with unacceptable content can be closed or deleted altogether. Furthermore, a range of sanctions are possible - from a simple warning to a temporary or even a permanent banning from ChessTalk.
Helping to Moderate
13. 'Report' links (an exclamation mark inside a triangle) can be found in many places throughout the board. These links allow users to alert the board staff to anything which is offensive, objectionable or illegal. Please consider using this feature if the need arises.
Advice for free
14. You should exercise the same caution with Private Messages as you would with any public posting.
Not sure what you are implying about the GM title, but...seriously?! check the database for Bator's games, I am sure you will find many technical wins over opponents his strength. Today's game against a 2600 was level until Bator started playing for a win, in an equal position, because the team was losing.
You are quite right, Steve. The official result has been corrected and now it is Yuan, Yuanling – Hoang, Thi Nhu Y 0-1. I shall post the change with the game score I have already given.
Stockfish gives one possible continuation with an evaluation of -16.88 for Black:
Not sure what you are implying about the GM title, but...seriously?! check the database for Bator's games, I am sure you will find many technical wins over opponents his strength. Today's game against a 2600 was level until Bator started playing for a win, in an equal position, because the team was losing.
I was watching the game until the last 2 or 3 moves and had seen the Stockfish evaluation up to that point so I was surprised when it showed up as a win. I thought maybe the live feed had hiccuped and there were missing moves where Yuanling's opponent blundered. Probably just the usual problems with recording scores in team events....
Stacking the boards is nothing new. I suggested we do it a couple of Olympiads ago but that did not happen. I'm too lazy to look up the thread.
A smart team captain is worth his weight in gold.
The subject was also discussed at some length in the 'Conspicuous by their absence' thread two years ago at the 40th Olympiad, Gary. I posted the following link therein which suggests the optimum board order is 4,1,2,3 (:
Now that you mention it, I do seem to recall a discussion with that or a similar board order.
In any case, India fielded a good team and I wouldn't read too much into this result. Tomorrow should be an easier pairing and it will give them time to get over the jet lag and used to sleeping during daylight.
Black never played 63. ... e3. The white king is on e3. The game ended after 63. Bc7. I'm a bit puzzled as to why it would end there but I'm nowhere near a strong enough player to properly evaluate the position. Stockfish on the website assessed it as equal. Both Hiarcs and Houdini on my ancient laptop assess it as roughly -.24 or essentially equal. To me it looks drawish. Even if it is a win for Black, it looks like it won't be easy. So I'm wondering why Sambuev would move and then resign unless he just didn't want to fight on any longer and wanted to save some energy.
... and it will give them time to get over the jet lag and used to sleeping during daylight.
Yes, the jet lag thing is prolly still happening. The tough part about travelling to Europe is the overnight flight across the Atlantic, where unless you're in one of those elite first-class pods, it's tough to get good continuous sleep. Tonight's the first night where I feel I'm gonna get the "catch-up sleep", and the younger players should benefit even more than this old man. And about the sleeping during daylight, the irony is that it's not actually that hard to sleep during the midnight sun here, so far anyways, as the nights have also been quite overcast. Every window seems to have great shades, so that's not the challenge. What is a challenge is DECIDING WHEN TO GO TO BED, LOL. What happens with the endless daylight, is that one tends to simply keep living the day, getting to bed later than usual. It's a curious double-edged sword that I guess almost everyone has to get used to here.
The subject was also discussed at some length in the 'Conspicuous by their absence' thread two years ago at the 40th Olympiad, Gary. I posted the following link therein which suggests the optimum board order is 4,1,2,3 (:
that board order would be optimal only if no other teams used the same strategy. If everyone went 4,1,2,3 then the actual pairings are the same as if everyone went 1,2,3,4. So, you would need to then go 3,4,1,2 and so on ad finitum. In equilibrium, probably optimal order assuming everyone else is trying to optimize is to randomize board order.
Black never played 63. ... e3. The white king is on e3. The game ended after 63. Bc7. I'm a bit puzzled as to why it would end there but I'm nowhere near a strong enough player to properly evaluate the position. Stockfish on the website assessed it as equal. Both Hiarcs and Houdini on my ancient laptop assess it as roughly -.24 or essentially equal. To me it looks drawish. Even if it is a win for Black, it looks like it won't be easy. So I'm wondering why Sambuev would move and then resign unless he just didn't want to fight on any longer and wanted to save some energy.
Just wondering.
Steve
Thank you again, Steve. I have checked the official score and the game did indeed end with 63. Bc7. I have added a note to that effect. And, like you, I can see no good reason why Bator would not play on.
Tweet
Comment