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    The satellites for weather/climate monitoring were first launched in 1979, thus this particular data set only goes back that far.

    In other news, another U.S. city gets hammered by extreme weather...
    Duluth http://minnesota.publicradio.org/dis...ood-photos/#20
    Two seals escaped and were found swimming down one of the main streets.

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      Originally posted by Paul Beckwith View Post
      The satellites for weather/climate monitoring were first launched in 1979, thus this particular data set only goes back that far.
      Your sentence is too general. There were satellites for weather (atmosphere) research back in 1960.

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        Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post
        Your sentence is too general. There were satellites for weather (atmosphere) research back in 1960.
        I seem to recall they tried to pass the U2 off as a weather research plane.
        Gary Ruben
        CC - IA and SIM

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          I like a challenge. The climatologists (white) versus the evil oil empire and their cabal of climate change deniers (black). White will triumph...just a matter of time...

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            Evil oil empire? Care to estimate what percentage of the things you own didn't come in to your possession thanks to oil? If oil is so evil why does everyone (including you) use so much of it?
            "Tom is a well known racist, and like most of them he won't admit it, possibly even to himself." - Ed Seedhouse, October 4, 2020.

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              Here's a bit more I was reading on nuclear energy this morning.

              http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/06/23/47745.htm
              Gary Ruben
              CC - IA and SIM

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                I just love this article...sick and tired of political stupidity and corporate (oil) control of politicians and brainwashing of the public and attacks on science, expecially climatologists...

                http://www.thestar.com/opinion/edito...ctly-good-hair

                From the link: "I laughed when I read Monday about voters in a U.S. city named Colorado Springs, which cut sales taxes and rejected a property tax hike. When the wildfires came, they had a straitened ability to fight them. The city, home of the notorious hard-right Focus on the Family and the Taxpayer Bill of Rights and highly libertarian in voting patterns, as Reuters reports, now looks like your campsite firepit the morning after you roasted all your wieners. They’re begging for federal money to rebuild."

                As I have been saying on this thread for years (admit that I told you so), dumb-ass humans are trashing the planet; climate change has completely destabilized our weather. Now starting the consequences stage, and it ain't pretty. Wait until the fall when food prices double due to massive crop failure in the U.S.

                I have a solution, but humanity does not deserve it at the moment.

                Look on the bright side. It is great that this destabilization is happening now. As bad as the consequences will be, they would be a lot worse if they happened in mid- to late-century with a global population of 9 or 10 billion (at least we are only at 7)...

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                  Probably your worries will be over. They found the Higgs Boson.

                  I think linking the current weather to climate change is somewhat of a stretch. Feeding the population was always going to be a challenge. However, the fertilizers will help to increase the yield per acre. I know you're worried about crops in the area you spotlight but weather and crops have always been a problem. That's why I don't buy stocks tied to crops. Don't want to have to worry about crops. Even sugar. It's pretty much a duopoly in Canada. Still, I don't want to worry about the sugar beet crop. I kind of miss that one. Sugar is one sweet business.

                  I don't vote libertarian so don't much care what happens. The voters can straighten that out next time if they don't like the results.

                  Regarding oil, if you think a pipeline won't be built to the ocean you might simply be dreaming. I think that's coming so we can get world prices for our oil and natural gas. I know the Americans don't want to see a pipeline because it will leave less for them when the time comes they need it. However, in my view, our government will not continue to lose revenue because our product is discounted.

                  One of my auto signatures called the U.S. election, in my opinion. However, I think once the election is over one of the first things Obama will do is approve the new pipeline.
                  Gary Ruben
                  CC - IA and SIM

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                    A busy day on Parliament Hill...

                    My globe from Utah with extra continents
                    http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...80502094_n.jpg

                    My poster...
                    http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...57785444_o.jpg

                    Getting pretty warm...
                    http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...81134205_o.jpg

                    Dark and dire...
                    http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...86699986_n.jpg


                    After the protest
                    http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...18982405_n.jpg

                    Another after shot
                    http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...01964984_o.jpg

                    Almost 4000 likes, 10,000 shares already (going viral); note my globe from Utah
                    http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...82946850_n.jpg

                    A great TED talk; understand climate change in 15 minutes...
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=A7ktYbVwr90

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                      I looked at things like how the crowd is dressed. They seem to be wearing a lot of clothes for a typical summer global warming day.
                      Gary Ruben
                      CC - IA and SIM

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                        Caution to Vlad, opening this link is liable to cause a severe reaction...
                        http://www.treehugger.com/environmen...-evidence.html
                        Yes, that is me...my poster...and my globe, mine, all mine...

                        Any guesses as to food prices later in the year?
                        http://www.pakalertpress.com/2012/07...-over-america/

                        Gary, how much will this disaster cost if 50% of the U.S. crop (not just corn) is wiped out this year?
                        http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...150130308.html

                        I can only shake my head and tell you guys that I told you so.

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                          Originally posted by Paul Beckwith View Post
                          Gary, how much will this disaster cost if 50% of the U.S. crop (not just corn) is wiped out this year?

                          I can only shake my head and tell you guys that I told you so.
                          I have no idea. I was reading they planted a large corn crop this year. Probably they might have to stop adding food to fuel for us to burn in our automobiles.

                          I've also heard the crop in Western Canada is doing well. We should have extra to sell to the U.S., but I don't suppose it will be inexpensive.

                          I guess the price of wheat, corn, livestock feed, etc., Up she goes!

                          Why are you only worried about how much the "disaster will cost"? Are we talking money here or a lack of ability to feed the population?
                          Gary Ruben
                          CC - IA and SIM

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                            Greek heat wave closes Acropolis early, temperature hits 42 C.

                            Sorry, but I think climate change is changing our weather forever. Records for all types of " weather " are being broken year after year - extremes are becoming the norm. Hard not to search for a common cause - and I don't think it is the devil!

                            Bob A

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                              Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
                              Greek heat wave closes Acropolis early, temperature hits 42 C.

                              Sorry, but I think climate change is changing our weather forever. Records for all types of " weather " are being broken year after year - extremes are becoming the norm. Hard not to search for a common cause - and I don't think it is the devil!

                              Bob A
                              If you want to find the cause take a look in the sky at that thing called the sun, you know, the heat source for the solar system. The Martians and Venusians are enjoying a heatwave as well though their politicians are trying to claim its our emissions of greenhouse gases that is causing it which is just as silly as as what is coming out of the mouths of those with a vested interest in selling us carbon credits. On Earth we continue to come out of the last ice age.

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                                Hi Vlad:

                                I"m no scientist, so I'm coming at this as a partially informed layman.

                                If the sun isn't getting any hotter, and the world axis and spin have not changed, then why should the weather/climate be becoming hotter?

                                Seems to me the answer has to lie in what is between us and the sun - the atmosphere. As I understand it that is what climate change scientists claim humans are altering with pollution, to our species detriment.

                                As to the cause of the coming and going to Ice Age/Furnace Eras, I'll have to have that one explained to me.

                                Bob

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