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  • #16
    Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

    Originally posted by Ed Seedhouse View Post
    Gary can't figure out how to use his computer or the forum and so rather than learn to do either he acts solely in his own imagined self interest.

    Typical of the change deniers who care only about their interests, and short term ones at that.
    I see you haven't posted to praise me.

    So tell us, Ed, how does your party of choice voting in favour of war benefit the climate? Do you figure all the pollution from the bombs and shocks of the explosions are helping to save the planet?
    Gary Ruben
    CC - IA and SIM

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    • #17
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      This morning I was calculating a chess variation in Kevin's puzzles from real games and listening to the political types on TV pumping for votes in the upcoming election.

      They were showing the leaders and their "schtick" for the election. Nothing remarkable and the words kind of blended. Then came Elizabeth May from the green party. Two words which caught my attention from her about the other parties. "Weasel words". Gawd. She must read this message board. Hit the nail on the head. It was even in the right (or left if you prefer) context.

      "Schtick" is one of those words I love to use at election time. Sometimes nothing short of a yiddish word from my junior chess club days suits the situation.
      Gary Ruben
      CC - IA and SIM

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      • #18
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        The election is on and not too much debate on issues. Not even from the environmental folks here. So far, I seem to be the only one who has noticed Ms. May. I've always liked women with a month for a name.

        I will not, He will so (form a coalition). Who cares? Let's hear the bread and butter issues like money for chess. Will it be in the next budget or will it be left out.

        How about those muti billion dollar fighter planes? If they're spending that kind of money on a war machine it won't be going into the social programs, like poverty, the homeless, health care, education and so forth. A coalition is not the issue nor should it be.

        It almost seems these politicians want to turn us into a nation of coin collectors. Hey Buddy! Can You Spare a Loonie?
        Gary Ruben
        CC - IA and SIM

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        • #19
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          Coalition is only an issue because the media kept asking about it.

          Wouldn't it have been great if Harper had gone and made his big speech about being anti-coalition, and instead of going along, the media had asked questions about something that's actually important?

          Besides, there's a potential loophole in his point that a coalition with the Bloc is bad... a Liberal/NDP/Green majority.
          Christopher Mallon
          FIDE Arbiter

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          • #20
            Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

            Originally posted by Ed Seedhouse View Post
            Gary can't figure out how to use his computer or the forum and so rather than learn to do either he acts solely in his own imagined self interest.

            Typical of the change deniers who care only about their interests, and short term ones at that.
            Jeez you're a cranky old fart. Gary doesn't have to report to you on how he uses his computer or how many threads he starts or the topics he chooses. Aren't there any more underrated juniors on the west coast?
            "We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
            "Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
            "If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey

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            • #21
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              Probably the media is cutting the leaders some slack in the first few days. I can't imagine coalition fear and a scare of good over evil playing out very well in the long run. It's starting to sound like paranoia. Funny in a way when you consider the present conservative party is a coalition of the Progressive Conservative pary and the old Reform Party. I suppose they prefer to call it a merger.

              Harper has good stuff he can talk about. As an example, he got us through the financial crisis in not too bad shape. I think we got out of it better than the Americans.

              Objectively, I suspect the Conservatives have a real good chance of winning back the two seats they lost in Newfoundland last time. That was over the disagreement with Danny Williams. How he'll do in Toronto is another matter. As an example, I don't expect Oliva Chow to lose her seat. As I recall, her riding takes in the university section and she should get the vote of a lot of them.

              It's hard to know how the environmental agenda will play out. I guess it depends on how much people like their utility bills. Also, if the HST sticks to the Conservatives should also play a part. I notice Jack Layton playing up the federal conservatives part in his speeches in B.C., and so he should. It's fair game.
              Gary Ruben
              CC - IA and SIM

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              • #22
                Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

                Today's Dilbert:

                http://www.dilbert.com/strips/comic/2011-03-29/
                ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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                • #23
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                  I like that one.

                  It's hard to know if the environmentalists have nuclear energy on or off their approved list these days. Before the problem in Japan I thought they were warming to nuclear energy

                  I've never liked the model where private interests are involved in the nuclear industry running reactors. We have had government involvement over the years, although, I'm not sure if this is still the case.

                  Todays newspaper says Ignatieff wants to put money toward postsecondary education. Seems like a good idea to me, depending on the level and qualifications necessary. Maybe simply cancel the Billion dollar fighter planes to pay for it.

                  Probably I didn't mention investing in American Intelligence. Probably it's not good taste to make oxymoron jokes. They have the for profit colleges in the U.S. The funding for them is being debated and will likely be cut. I guess that will depend on how the votes will split with an election coming up in another year or so. Anyhow, I bought shares in one of those companies after the share price had dropped around 80%. Most of the funding comes from government. Something like a 90/10 split between Gov/student. Still, the students end up with huge bill at the end of their education. The default rate on repayment becomes a problem. I think the government wants less than a 25% default rate. So many students are now being turned away. The ATB (ability to benefit) students mainly from what I gather. That's the ones who don't have a high school diploma and do have a high payment default rate. The college I bought into is in a lot of the poorer areas so I imagine likely to be Democrat voters. They also have schools in Ontario which I guess aren't effected.

                  Th Canadian politicians should get off industry and taxes a bit. I'm still seeing companies closing plants because they can't afford the taxes and/or wages. Sometimes the tax breaks is what keep the jobs and industries. As an example, I haven't heard any of the party leaders say the Conservatives should not have helped bail out GM and Chrysler. That saved thousands of direct jobs and more spin off jobs.
                  Gary Ruben
                  CC - IA and SIM

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                  • #24
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                    Here is an update on the very large telescope which is to be build. It should give us a better view of our universe and the secrets it holds. It's an article from my morning newspaper.

                    Click Here...
                    Gary Ruben
                    CC - IA and SIM

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                    • #25
                      Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

                      Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                      Here is an update on the very large telescope which is to be build. It should give us a better view of our universe and the secrets it holds. It's an article from my morning newspaper.

                      Click Here...
                      As usual Gary is well behind the scientific news. There's already several bigger ones planned notably a 30 meter beast funded and planned for the top of Mauna Kea. A 100 meter project is percolating away in the mind of another group, to be called the "overwhelmingly large telescope", or "OWL".

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                      • #26
                        Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

                        Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                        It should give us a better view
                        It will not. A cleaner air would ;)

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                        • #27
                          Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

                          Originally posted by Ed Seedhouse View Post
                          As usual Gary is well behind the scientific news. There's already several bigger ones planned notably a 30 meter beast funded and planned for the top of Mauna Kea. A 100 meter project is percolating away in the mind of another group, to be called the "overwhelmingly large telescope", or "OWL".
                          Sounds like another drive by. I've written about the TMT before. Why wouldn't I know? One of the companies in which I hold shares has done some design work on that.

                          Today I was mentioning a different project.

                          While that 100 meter beast perculates in the groups minds, I hope they do some planning to get funding.
                          Gary Ruben
                          CC - IA and SIM

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                          • #28
                            Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

                            Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post
                            It will not. A cleaner air would ;)
                            This is your lucky time of year. An election. You can vote for a political party which will promise you all this. I notice tonight May isn't included in the debates. They showed her on TV discussing this and she was gettting herself worked up. Political indignation is my guess.
                            Gary Ruben
                            CC - IA and SIM

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                            • #29
                              Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

                              Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                              This is your lucky time of year. An election. You can vote for a political party which will promise you all this. I notice tonight May isn't included in the debates. They showed her on TV discussing this and she was gettting herself worked up. Political indignation is my guess.
                              I would not agree to debate Elizabeth May if I was Stephen Harper. It just gives one more Harper basher the stage. They might as well allow the Worker's Communist party on the stage as well (Oh wait, they allow former party member Gilles Duceppe as a central figure in the debate). I thought May's performance and love in with Dion in the last debate was distracting from the real debate. The only reason to debate May would be if she was capable of putting on a good performance which would siphon votes from the opposition parties. That seems unlikely.

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                              • #30
                                Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

                                Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
                                I would not agree to debate Elizabeth May if I was Stephen Harper. It just gives one more Harper basher the stage. They might as well allow the Worker's Communist party on the stage as well (Oh wait, they allow former party member Gilles Duceppe as a central figure in the debate). I thought May's performance and love in with Dion in the last debate was distracting from the real debate. The only reason to debate May would be if she was capable of putting on a good performance which would siphon votes from the opposition parties. That seems unlikely.
                                I find the existence of Duceppe and the Bloc despicable in the first place.
                                I thought that Elizabeth May was the only person who made any sense at all in the last debate... When all is said and done, whether she is included or not likely will make no difference - the gigantic herd of sheep are all about to vote and whichever pasture looks greener (no pun intended) will "win", sort of.
                                ...Mike Pence: the Lord of the fly.

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