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Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...
90% of climate denialist paper authors are connected to Exxon Mobil; they have successfully deceived people like Vlad but I am sure that most Chesstalkers are smarter than that:
Triage is in play:
Choice 1) divert water to flood 3000 square miles with 25 feet depth of water (requiring35,000 people to be displaced, flooding 11,000 structures, and covering prime farmland)
Choice 2) let water continue to New Orleans with flooding more severe than Katrina a very real possibility; depths of 20 feet over city likely
Since Choice 2 affects many refineries and heavy industry, Choice 1 will almost certainly be used.
Triage is in play:
Choice 1) divert water to flood 3000 square miles with 25 feet depth of water (requiring35,000 people to be displaced, flooding 11,000 structures, and covering prime farmland)
Choice 2) let water continue to New Orleans with flooding more severe than Katrina a very real possibility; depths of 20 feet over city likely
Since Choice 2 affects many refineries and heavy industry, Choice 1 will almost certainly be used.
Looks like you were right. Do you win anything?
Of course, they opened a "spillway". What they did was the plan for decades, I would presume. Otherwise, why bother with a "spillway"?
In Manitoba they have "Duff's Ditch" which diverts the water around Winnipeg.
Early 2011 has been globally cooler than average. This year's floods are not caused by warmer temperatures.
Alan, you have to get with the program. Conservatives win the election? Blame Anthropogenic Global Warming (AGW). It snows in Los Angeles? Blame AGW. Floods? Hurricanes? Tornadoes? Blame AGW. Record cold snaps in Europe? Blame AGW.
On a related note my nephew was taken out of his class when upon being presented with the Al Gore liefest "An Inconvenient Truth" he had the audacity to state that he was pretty sure that pretty much everything in the movie was untrue and incorrect. Steam was seen flowing freely out of the teacher's empty head upon being presented with this challenge to the AGW religious orthodoxy.
Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...
Vlad should stick with chess instead of thinking he knows anything about climate change. Then again, based on recent play maybe he should take up tiddly winks instead...
Wacky weather continues. In a nutshell lack of sea ice in the Arctic leads to a very negative Arctic Oscillation, which induces meridional flow in the jet stream patterns. Last summer this resulted in massive floods in Pakistan and a massive heat wave in Moscow. Continuing through last winter, this meridional flow resulted in massive snow amounts in the U. S. as opposed to Canada, storm after storm nailed them. More recently, the very high sea-surface temperatures SSTs in the Gulf of Mexico combined with the blocking jet stream patterns resulted in near record rainfalls in the U.S., which combined with the melt of the record snow cover amounts has let to massive, 1:500 year flooding events along the Mississippi River and also flooding throughout Manitoba.
If sea ice continues to diminish (I expect it to vanish in the summer within several years) these patterns will become even more extreme. Time will tell...
Vlad should stick with chess instead of thinking he knows anything about climate change. Then again, based on recent play maybe he should take up tiddly winks instead...
Wacky weather continues. In a nutshell lack of sea ice in the Arctic leads to a very negative Arctic Oscillation, which induces meridional flow in the jet stream patterns. Last summer this resulted in massive floods in Pakistan and a massive heat wave in Moscow. Continuing through last winter, this meridional flow resulted in massive snow amounts in the U. S. as opposed to Canada, storm after storm nailed them. More recently, the very high sea-surface temperatures SSTs in the Gulf of Mexico combined with the blocking jet stream patterns resulted in near record rainfalls in the U.S., which combined with the melt of the record snow cover amounts has let to massive, 1:500 year flooding events along the Mississippi River and also flooding throughout Manitoba.
If sea ice continues to diminish (I expect it to vanish in the summer within several years) these patterns will become even more extreme. Time will tell...
Over-massive use of the word "massive". Grade: D
1:500 year flooding events along the Mississippi River? Duh, try 1927. But even 500 years, were it true, would be a single flap of a hummingbirds wings in geological terms.
Only the rushing is heard...
Onward flies the bird.
Wacky weather continues. In a nutshell lack of sea ice in the Arctic leads to a very negative Arctic Oscillation, which induces meridional flow in the jet stream patterns. Last summer this resulted in massive floods in Pakistan and a massive heat wave in Moscow. Continuing through last winter, this meridional flow resulted in massive snow amounts in the U. S. as opposed to Canada, storm after storm nailed them. More recently, the very high sea-surface temperatures SSTs in the Gulf of Mexico combined with the blocking jet stream patterns resulted in near record rainfalls in the U.S., which combined with the melt of the record snow cover amounts has let to massive, 1:500 year flooding events along the Mississippi River and also flooding throughout Manitoba.
This theory (I have no idea if it's true) explains record flooding. The link you gave me doesn't. It just says temps were kind of average, and we had lots of precipitation.
The Mississippi flooding exceeds existing records at most locations; and has been reported to be 1:500 by some groups. Anyway, these 1:100, 1:300, 1:500 recurrence intervals assume a stable climate, which we do not have. Thus, they have become pretty meaningless since we are in a different climate regime.
Your argument about always referring to geological time does not hold water. In geological time humans do not really exist at all. You argue that nothing is important; I disagree...
Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...
Alan, in an earlier post you said it has been cold recently. The link you are talking about shows that this is a perception of yours and the data for April does not support that.
The paragraph that you quoted me on is my connection of the links/processes between various climatic events; some of the things I think about as I work on my Ph. D. thesis.
Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...
I meant it was relatively cold. Not based on my perception, but on the reports. That report says the same thing.
If this year wasn't exceptionally warm, why did we have high precipitation? Evidently it was due to unusual patterns in the weather, not because this year was warm. If it's due to less arctic ice, as you say, that would suggest a trend and we can expect more such weather in the future.
Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...
Alan, some months were colder, some were warmer. April was the 4th warmest April in the weather records.
I fully expect that these types of extreme events will significantly worsen in the next few years. Here is a report on the extreme weather situation in 2010...
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