THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

[Paul Beckwith]

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Massive storm destroys half the planet...

http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/06/13/243217/the-onionthe-onion-destruction/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+climateprogress%2FlCrX+%28Climate+Progress%29

[Gary Ruben]

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Here's a piece of reality you might, or might not, enjoy. Looks like Environment Canada is being gutted. Some might say even that is not enough.

Click Here...

[Vlad Drkulec]

Its the sun and cloud formations: real scientists not fake(climate) scientists

http://probeinternational.org/library/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Scientists-at-Aarhus-University-AU-and-the-National-Space-Institute-DTU-Space-show-that-particles-from-space-create-cloud-cover.pdf

Cue fake climate scientist denial of the obvious....

[Bob Gillanders]

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Are you guys still arguing about climate change?

Anyway, I thought I would see if there were any new youtube videos on the subject in 2011, look what I found:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTjaMxuAhUw&feature=related

I always found this guy annoying, good to see he has been debunked. :D

[Alan Baljeu]

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Bob, they stopped arguing over climate change some time ago. They've dug trenches, and are huddling in and occasionally launching grand salvos over the head of their opponents. Lots of flash, but no strategy to win the war.

[Gary Ruben]

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Bob, they stopped arguing over climate change some time ago. They've dug trenches, and are huddling in and occasionally launching grand salvos over the head of their opponents. Lots of flash, but no strategy to win the war.

The "grand salvos" are money. Whoever ends up with the most money wins.

You know you've lost when you put your hands in your pockets and all you feel is nuts. :)

[Vlad Drkulec]

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The "grand salvos" are money. Whoever ends up with the most money wins.

You know you've lost when you put your hands in your pockets and all you feel is nuts. :)

They have three more months to make money from the Ontario government before the well runs dry with a Conservative majority though the 20 year contracts will mean that we will be cursing the Liberals long after they are gone.

[Gary Ruben]

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They have three more months to make money from the Ontario government before the well runs dry with a Conservative majority though the 20 year contracts will mean that we will be cursing the Liberals long after they are gone.

We'll have to see if contracts get torn up.

I've gotten caught up in a class action lawsuit. Do you recall when they were handing out H1N1 vaccines? My wife and I were in the groups which were eligible and went and we got one. It was free and the people at the clinic were really nice to us. It was at the local mall.

Anyhow, a thumb drive with the records got lost by someone. I have no indication I have suffered any damages as a result. I don't even want the person who lost the drive to lose their job.

We got a letter telling us if we want to opt out we have to fill out a form in which they ask date of birth, which is none of their business.

If they win their 40 million, it will likely send up my health care costs (taxes) so there's the temptation to do nothing. The law is flawed. It would make more sense for those launching class actions to have to sign up the individuals who are interested.

Here's an article from a local paper.

Click Here...

[Vlad Drkulec]

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Are you guys still arguing about climate change?

Anyway, I thought I would see if there were any new youtube videos on the subject in 2011, look what I found:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTjaMxuAhUw&feature=related

I always found this guy annoying, good to see he has been debunked. :D

I like this one about the global warming scam and other topics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buAiehw0Q1c&feature=related

[Bob Gillanders]

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I like this one about the global warming scam and other topics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buAie...eature=related

Thanks Vlad. I have a part 2 for you on Lord Monckton.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij0NLBEeUbc&feature=related

Enjoy. :)

[Vlad Drkulec]

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Thanks Vlad. I have a part 2 for you on Lord Monckton.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij0NLBEeUbc&feature=related

Enjoy. :)

Nice straw man they are burning there.

[Bob Gillanders]

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Nice straw man they are burning there.

Good one. :) I assume you mean the straw man is Monckton. He does strike a loose resemblance to actor Ray Bolger as the straw man on Wizard of Oz. :D

There is a 3rd video on this trilogy, but I had trouble keeping awake for it. So I won't bore you. I'll let interested readers find it themselves.

[Vlad Drkulec]

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Good one. :) I assume you mean the straw man is Monckton. He does strike a loose resemblance to actor Ray Bolger as the straw man on Wizard of Oz. :D

There is a 3rd video on this trilogy, but I had trouble keeping awake for it. So I won't bore you. I'll let interested readers find it themselves.

I finally figured out who Monckton was. He was instrumental in torpedoing the Al Gore propoganda piece "An Inconvenient Truth". Apparently his criticisms couldn't be countered but he himself could be attacked. I notice Paul Beckwith disavows environmental activist and billionaire Al Gore the self professed inventor of the internet and yet keeps recycling the arguments from Gore's movie even after they have been debunked [for example most recently the 6 meter rise (I think Paul said 7 meters through an article in the Toronto Star) in sea level which would take a much greater rise in temperature than those which have been forecast].

[Gary Ruben]

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Even thought the subsidy might not end on this round, it appears to be on its way out.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43431407/ns/politics

[Paul Beckwith]

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The GOP in the U. S. had much smarter people in 1847 than it does today; here is what George Perkins Marsh had to say Sept 30, 1847:

"Man cannot at his pleasure command the rain and the sunshine, the wind and frost and snow, yet it is certain that climate itself has in many instances been gradually changed and ameliorated or deteriorated by human action. The draining of swamps and the clearing of forests perceptibly effect the evaporation from the earth, and of course the mean quantity of moisture suspended in the air. The same causes modify the electrical condition of the atmosphere and the power of the surface to reflect, absorb and radiate the rays of the sun, and consequently influence the distribution of light and heat, and the force and direction of the winds. Within narrow limits too, domestic fires and artificial structures create and diffuse increased warmth, to an extent that may effect vegetation. The mean temperature of London is a degree or two higher than that of the surrounding country, and Pallas believed, that the climate of even so thinly a peopled country as Russia was sensibly modified by similar causes."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2011/jun/20/george-perkins-marsh-climate-speech