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  • Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

    Probably you'll like seeing this:

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technolo...rctic-glacier/
    Gary Ruben
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      If the sea ice in the Arctic is following a log fit instead of an exponential fit then it could vanish this summer...call me crazy but I am basically convinced that the planet is abruptly entering a new climate state...average global temperatures could be 25 degrees Celsius within less than a decade as compared to the present value of almost 15 degrees Celsius...this would take the earth into a Cretaceous type climate state...with this type of warming global food supplies will be devastated and all hell will break loose...most of the planet will be very warm and very wet...but dry areas will be drier?...

      https://sites.google.com/site/arctis...in/home/piomas

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        Originally posted by Paul Beckwith View Post
        If the sea ice in the Arctic is following a log fit instead of an exponential fit then it could vanish this summer...call me crazy but I am basically convinced that the planet is abruptly entering a new climate state...average global temperatures could be 25 degrees Celsius within less than a decade as compared to the present value of almost 15 degrees Celsius...this would take the earth into a Cretaceous type climate state...with this type of warming global food supplies will be devastated and all hell will break loose...most of the planet will be very warm and very wet...but dry areas will be drier?...
        Do you know what that will do to the value of ocean front properties. Wow!!! They won't be what they used to be.

        Water expands when it warms so I suppose sea level would rise.

        My boss once threatened to fire me for exciting the molecules. It was a cold day and I should have known better than to excite the molecules. It ended up costing several thousand dollars to repair. Darn molecules!!!
        Gary Ruben
        CC - IA and SIM

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          P.S. I admire that you put a time frame on your expectation.
          Gary Ruben
          CC - IA and SIM

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            Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
            P.S. I admire that you put a time frame on your expectation.
            I guess the cold snap in Europe is just everyone's imagination....


            Oh NOOOOOO!!!!!!!! I wasted my 1000th post on this thread!

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              Well so much for all those peak oil theories. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2343528/

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                Originally posted by Zeljko Kitich View Post
                Well so much for all those peak oil theories. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle2343528/
                I still remember the coal furnace when I was a kid. The coal man used to come around and fill up the bin. I can still recall being put in the coal bin for several hours because I threw stones at the milk mans horse. It must have worked because I didn't throw stones at his horse after that.

                After that it was oil heat. Then came natural gas heat. Natural gas cost less.

                I can remember working on the changeover to natural gas by large volume users in this area. I used to work on a couple a day doing my part of the change over. Some days I'd work on three not very often.

                The current pricing on natural gas is out of sync with reality.

                A barrel of oil has roughly 6 million BTU's and sells for around $100. a barrel.
                A MCF of natural gas has 1 million BTU's and sells for around $2.60 WTIC.

                At the conversion rate of 6 MCF for 1 barrel of oil you have around $16.00 equivalent of heating value. Natural gas is a huge deal in North America.

                The reason doesn't really matter. What should be done, in my opinion, is the price of natural gas should be tied to oil as a percentage of the cost. There's no reason natural gas should not be selling for 7 or 8 dollars a MCF. If nothing else it might stop foreign companies with a long time frame from taking over our resource companies at low prices in the current environment.

                While it might sound radical, pipeline companies don't suffer when volumes get lower due to less use. They simply raise the price of transporting the smaller volumes.

                Of course there's a lot of hedging in natural gas. Even many homeowners are hedged. They lock into 2 to 5 year contracts at a fixed rate. That helps to keep the price down for the product.
                Gary Ruben
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                • Global Warming hero facing racketeering charges over forgeries?

                  http://www.weeklystandard.com/articl...ng_631915.html

                  It seems the global warming crowd is growing increasingly desperate to discredit the tiny band of global warming skeptics who have brought their movement to a grinding halt. Forgery and mail fraud and violation of U.S. federal law seem to go unnoticed in the mainstream press in much the way that Solyndra and the many more horror stories in the green energy agenda are swept under the rug. I wonder if they will mention it when Gleick gets nailed with civil and criminal penalties.

                  Interesting that big oil seems to be funding the global warming movement/religion.

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                  • No such thing as fossil fuels?

                    http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/266424

                    The idea that oil is a fossil fuel seems largely prevalent along with the scarcity mantra of the eco freaks. What if they are just wrong?

                    Russian scientists have been arguing for an abiotic and geologic process origin of fossil fuels.

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                      Heartland has been ripped apart and totally debunked as a climate change denial front for big oil with the uncovering of their funding sources and details. This is climategate in reverse, call it denialgate...

                      http://www.desmogblog.com/heartland-...denial-machine

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                        More info on denialgate...

                        http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2012/0...te+Progress%29

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                          Paul, no wonder the eco-freaks are engaged in a broad retreat on all fronts. You just posted the faked data as proof of the alleged misdeeds of your critics. It worked in the Stalinist Soviet Union but it doesn`t fly any more. Since you have no compunction about posting fake data when it comes to your critics there is little doubt that you are willing to post fake data to prove global warming,
                          and that is why you fail....

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                            After 185,000 pages of documents, 10 hearings, and 2 sopoenas no improper behaviour has been found with Solyndra...

                            http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2012/0...te+Progress%29

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                              I call BS on Vlad. You and your buddy Huck Farper are nuts...

                              Stop crying about Heartland being torn apart and revealed for the Huck's they are; you were quite happy when emails from Climate Research Unit (CRU) in England were hacked into and illegally acquired. No problem to you about these being stolen, and now you cry about Gleick. At least fake consistency...

                              Here is the real story about Heartland from real climatologists...
                              http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2012/0...te+Progress%29

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                              • Peter Gleick uses forged Heartland memo to fool gullible alarmists

                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-D7JXBwkJg

                                Hint to Beckwith, they're not laughing with you, they're laughing at you...

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