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  • Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

    Originally posted by Vlad Dobrich View Post
    Getting called gullible by a petty functionary government bureaucrat doesn't mean much.
    You are a bit out of date there but I share your sentiment.

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      Originally posted by Zeljko Kitich View Post
      You are a bit out of date there but I share your sentiment.
      I second that emotion. Nothing like dismissal of opinion by occupation. :)

      Kind of like climate change. If you put your hands in your pockets and all you feel is nuts, you probably don't understand the situation.
      Gary Ruben
      CC - IA and SIM

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      • Re: Canadians and Climate Change

        I saw this image on Facebook recently. Interesting use of chess imagery.

        Dogs will bark, but the caravan of chess moves on.

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        • Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

          Have you guys discussed the following controversy where a European scientist was publically crucified for showing dissent on environmental isues?

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ske...vironmentalist

          I am a person who basically "buys in" to the idea that man caused global warming but it also greatly bothers me that scientists who do wish to debate some aspect of this issue do have their tenure threatened and their papers blocked from the best journals.

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            Originally posted by Garvin Nunes View Post
            Have you guys discussed the following controversy where a European scientist was publically crucified for showing dissent on environmental isues?

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ske...vironmentalist

            I am a person who basically "buys in" to the idea that man caused global warming but it also greatly bothers me that scientists who do wish to debate some aspect of this issue do have their tenure threatened and their papers blocked from the best journals.
            On the bright side, those that know how to play the game, despite not subscribing to the religious hysteria surrounding AGW are able to do well by structuring their proposals for research in such a way as to indicate that their piece of research might be applicable to climate change in some way. Unless you are a tenured professor, you can't afford to be seen as a skeptic even if that reflects your real views.

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              There doesn't seem to be any outcry over the nuclear powered rover they recently landed on Mars. I assume it's nuclear powered like a nuclear submarine. I wonder why it's necessary to spread nuclear devices to other planets.
              Gary Ruben
              CC - IA and SIM

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              • Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

                Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
                There doesn't seem to be any outcry over the nuclear powered rover they recently landed on Mars. I assume it's nuclear powered like a nuclear submarine. I wonder why it's necessary to spread nuclear devices to other planets.
                Gary, there are no gas stations on Mars! :D

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                  Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
                  Gary, there are no gas stations on Mars! :D
                  You figure this justifies exporting a small nuclear power plant to Mars and leaving it there forever?

                  By the way, those have to be refueled from time to time. They have a 2 year time on the rover so I would assume the refueling period to be 2 years earth time.
                  Gary Ruben
                  CC - IA and SIM

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                  • Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

                    Ramifications of sea ice destruction now starting to hit main stream press; here is a great article...
                    http://apps.facebook.com/theguardian...world-disaster

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                      Sea ice is still on path to complete destruction by September 30th, 2012. In the beginning of August two different cyclones merged to form one massive cyclone that had maximum ice destruction on August 7th. This cyclone churned up and mec...
                      hanically ripped up the ice, brought warm salty water up from depth to increase melting, and exported huge amounts of ice out into the Atlantic Ocean. A further cyclone cause additional destruction which peaked on August 19th. Since then the "normal" ice flow patterns consisting of the Beaufort Gyre and Trans-polar Drift have been exporting large quantiities of ice out into the Atlantic via the Fram Strait north of Greenland... details here in my new presentation:
                      https://docs.google.com/file/d/0ByLu...N4T3lnekE/edit

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                      • Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

                        My article to the Canadian Parliament newspaper "The Hill Times" was published yesterday...

                        http://www.sierraclub.ca/sites/sierr...es/ht-oped.pdf

                        http://www.hilltimes.com/opinion-pie...kaKKk.facebook

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                          Originally posted by Paul Beckwith View Post
                          My article to the Canadian Parliament newspaper "The Hill Times" was published yesterday...
                          I didn't know they were in session, although, Senator Fairbairn was in the news yesterday.
                          Gary Ruben
                          CC - IA and SIM

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                          • Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

                            Originally posted by Paul Beckwith View Post
                            Sea ice in the Arctic is being massacred by an enormous cylone; I do not think there will be any sea ice left by September 30th, 2012. That will change our world. I put together this presentation to partially explain my prediction.

                            Climate to mate humanity in 49 days. Seems like a forced mate to me, although it could be 40 days instead. Of course I may have overlooked some defense (feedback in system) but thus far all the feedbacks are in favor of the climate...
                            So, how's it coming, Paul? Can you give us some kind of update? There's only a couple of weeks remaining.
                            Gary Ruben
                            CC - IA and SIM

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                            • Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

                              History question: Back in the 13th century we had a mini ice age where the globe cooled, ice expanded, and China abandoned its quest to colonize the world due to food shortages at home. Scientifically speaking, we hit a local minima in average temperatures (and a maxima in ice extent?). Prior to that we had an ice age that ended 10000-15000 years ago.

                              In between there must logically have been a maxima point. What do we know of this previous warm period in the climate records? How warm did it get, and how far did the ice recede?

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                                Originally posted by Alan Baljeu View Post
                                History question: Back in the 13th century we had a mini ice age where the globe cooled, ice expanded, and China abandoned its quest to colonize the world due to food shortages at home. Scientifically speaking, we hit a local minima in average temperatures (and a maxima in ice extent?). Prior to that we had an ice age that ended 10000-15000 years ago.

                                In between there must logically have been a maxima point. What do we know of this previous warm period in the climate records? How warm did it get, and how far did the ice recede?
                                There is a reason they call it Greenland... They used be able to farm there.

                                The climate scientists who promote the global warming craze/industry/religion would like to claim that the medieval warm period never happened. If man was able to adapt then, he will be able to adapt now which is rather inconvenient if the particular snake oil you are peddling requires a doomsday scenario to sell it to the unwashed masses.

                                http://www.globalwarminghysteria.com...lobal-warming/

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