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Re: 2011 Toronto Labour Day Tournament - Register Now
fwiw I'm just acting as a consultant for this tourney. The others are doing the lion's share of the work particularly Marcus. Initially the entry fee was going to be a lot higher! I was the one urging them to lower it to what it is now.
I just don't take kindly to mindless knuckleheads tip-tapying away on their keyboards defecating on the good efforts of my colleagues. A message board is not the place to scrutinize the details of a tournament which we have no control over. They should come talk to us in person if they have balls. It's evident most of them have been castrated.
I've visited the ACC on a couple of occasions on Monday this year. The temperature with AC has definitely been installed and lighting improved. Not sure what's considered "optimal lighting" since it seems chess players always want more of it :)
Alex F.
When I went to pay my CDN OPEN fees they were playing in the Basement. Lots of light there. But the Playing Hall was still as dark as ever. Hope you are seeing the same room as I'm talking about.
Hi Alex I would not call the Bathurst Site a Quality site if you play in the big hall. Sure elite players get quiet well lit rooms. The U2000 except for maybe the top two boards play in the Darker areas.
Yes the club has done great. But what does this have to do with running quality Chess Tournaments.
I 'm not complaining about the Entry fees if I can afford them I go. But there also has to be a fair way of distributing prizes so that everyone has a chance to win . You say to run quality tournaments you have to raise entries yet you expect lower than U2000 players to pay higher entries and not get a shot at the First Prizes unless they even pay more to move up. Then you punish these lower rated players by saying you can't get top Prizes so settle with lower prizes because we did not get our entries and we need to pay the top group. Creating bigger and better tournaments is the way to go YES but you have to get rid of the Sections or the section players will not show up to shore up your foundations.If you charge them the same price but offer them a lower return for their money.
It's fine if you are above 2000 you get all the perks. But don't let the lower players play in the street.
I think that is what was the fuel for the French and Russian Revolutions poor wanted what the rich had and got tired of paying the shortfalls.
And I think the ACC has been steadily addressing the many complaints they got originally, and have improved conditions overall, from club level and I think even these tournaments. My point was that this group has actually done something, should be seen as a driving force in Toronto chess, and in my opinion chess in Toronto as a whole needs to change.
Results in chess tend to award the stronger players, simple and obvious. But I don't think they're being treated all that differently than us mortals, and yes I put myself alongside you in chess skills and everyone else who is not at least an IM.
In any case... I plan to play this tournament, and if something seriously bothers me, I'll mention it to the organizer. And this should probably go with anything... if you participate in a tournament or even event unrelated to chess, raise concerns which are continuously ignored, one has him/her self to blame for continuing to be a sucker.
But I think the ACC has been improving with each event and I don't see a reason for that trend to come to a halt, so I am quite optimistic about playing in the Labour Day.
See you there, and hoping to discuss things in more detail in person,
fwiw I'm just acting as a consultant for this tourney. The others are doing the lion's share of the work particularly Marcus. Initially the entry fee was going to be a lot higher! I was the one urging them to lower it to what it is now.
I just don't take kindly to mindless knuckleheads tip-tapying away on their keyboards defecating on the good efforts of my colleagues. A message board is not the place to scrutinize the details of a tournament which we have no control over. They should come talk to us in person if they have balls. It's evident most of them have been castrated.
I don't think talking to you would do any good Hugh you are too high strung to be part of their team. I started my question way back when in earnest. I'd like to see a great turnout the same as all of you would but emails and calls and questions just had to be addressed. So if you think the majority of Great Chess players read Chess Talk I think you are wrong. And if they do then you won't see too many there if you keep letting every one know that the Annex chess club will castrate any that disagree with them.
A high Class Professional Club Member should be laughing at these posts not contributing to them. If the other players feel the same as you then I'd better fore warn my friends to bring metal jock straps.
And I think the ACC has been steadily addressing the many complaints they got originally, and have improved conditions overall, from club level and I think even these tournaments. My point was that this group has actually done something, should be seen as a driving force in Toronto chess, and in my opinion chess in Toronto as a whole needs to change.
Results in chess tend to award the stronger players, simple and obvious. But I don't think they're being treated all that differently than us mortals, and yes I put myself alongside you in chess skills and everyone else who is not at least an IM.
In any case... I plan to play this tournament, and if something seriously bothers me, I'll mention it to the organizer. And this should probably go with anything... if you participate in a tournament or even event unrelated to chess, raise concerns which are continuously ignored, one has him/her self to blame for continuing to be a sucker.
But I think the ACC has been improving with each event and I don't see a reason for that trend to come to a halt, so I am quite optimistic about playing in the Labour Day.
See you there, and hoping to discuss things in more detail in person,
And ff's sake change your avatar. I have nothing but respect for Doc Brown and good memories about that movie. Maybe a picture of a tombstone you crafty coffin-dodger.
Was Doc Brown a Plastic Pusher. Never saw the Movie I guess.
What Avatar. Never saw that movie either.
Re: 2011 Toronto Labour Day Tournament - Register Now
News Flash for Hugh Siddeley
Brampton has now up graded their transit system. We now offer push carts with one horse so the plastic pushers can get across town faster.
News for John Erickson
Better contact the Casino . I hear Hugh wants Limo service to get him from Toronto to Niagara Falls Open next year and service to and from site.
Please forward the rates to me so I can see if we can afford the tournament. We may have to give out tokens for the slots and let the players try their luck at the Wheel of Fortune as our entry fee will be too low to support the Elite players.
Instead of sending your concerns (albeit illegitimate ones) privately to the organizers you had to air your dirty laundry here on ChessTalk. So unconstructive and proof that you're a total douchebag.
When you invited me to your tournament I politely declined. Did I ever take shots at it publicly and broadcast that I in fact had no desire to play in your poxy tournament at your stuffy little apartment? Brampton? Who the hell wants to go out to hell's high acre? Get closer man. Public transport? TTC then Sauga transit? Get real. Gotta do something about that how about limo service? Just not good enough John. We can all play this game. How does it feel?
Yes I guess Sending concerns to Chess Anex would have been a better prempt had Marcus thought of it. But he did not so we have to deal with the Consultant.
So much shyte-talking about our tournament and you want us to sit down with you and have a beer after? What planet are you from?
And I don't recall it saying anywhere on the flyer that chess hobos are welcome. Go play in the park you monkey.
Yes I guess you are right here as well Hugh. A firecracker in a paper room would be a bad mistake. Besides us hobos regard our drinking holes as home. No
need bringing in a lit fuse into a ammunition dump.
As a Consultant for the Annex Chess Club I think you must get many calls for start up barbeques.
When I went to pay my CDN OPEN fees they were playing in the Basement. Lots of light there. But the Playing Hall was still as dark as ever. Hope you are seeing the same room as I'm talking about.
It is possible that they have some portable lights which were not evident at that time because they were not needed. They used such things at Hart House to make the light conditions better as I recall.
When people are working hard trying to organize an event do you think it's helpful for us to hear "the worst site I've ever seen" etc.. Such comments do not help in the least. How can we pick up something constructive from that? Good luck answering that one! Go on, be open-minded!
How about for example "it has been improved since" or " it can only get better and it will" or shrewdly explain what will be done to make it "even better" than before? :) Clearly there are ways (good natured humour for example) to answer what you consider "unconstructive" criticism in a constructive way and turn around a potentially damaging challenge to your advantage.
Is someone says that a particular tournament site is "the worst he has ever seen", it is certainly a legitimate opinion whose honesty we can be certain of. At least it means that not everyone liked that site, quite a useful information especially if no one else had the courage to say it, which is sometimes the case with chess players. Many simply prefer to quit silently, rather then express constructively :) their reasons for being unsatisfied. Consequently organizers have no clue about what could have been done better.
Would it be better if a bunch of people had hypocritically said: "the site was great" when they actually thought the opposite ? Is it what is meant by being "constructive" ?
I admit that it's easier to construe criticism as constructive when it's expressed pleasantly. But I'm willing to look behind the sometimes unpleasant expression to find value in John's prolific contribution to this thread. If players lied and never spoke up, maybe playing conditions would never improve, and we'd lose players, players who "simply prefer to quit silently," without the chess community even knowing why.
However, shouldn't that door swing both ways? Chess needs organizers as well as players. Can we do Hugh the same favour? Maybe we can look behind his hostile expressions to find "useful information" in "opinions whose honesty we can be certain of."
Why should players be encouraged to be intolerant of inadequate lighting and a hot environment when they play, while organizers are told they just have to "get used to" inadequate respect and a hot environment on ChessTalk when they organize?
Maybe in the case of us organizers, too, it's good someone is complaining, albeit in an over-hostile manner, "especially if no one else has the courage to say it." If organizers always lie and never speak up, if they hypocritically say, "the experience is great," when they actually think the opposite, maybe organizing conditions will never improve and we'll lose organizers, organizers who "simply prefer to quit silently," without the chess community even knowing why.
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