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A CEGEP education in Quebec is "free" (i.e.tuition). How can a CEGEP student have $30,000 in student debt (as the student interviewed in the article states)? Almost all CEGEP students attend for only two years.
12-year old Victoria Grant explains why her homeland, Canada, and most of the world, is in debt. April 27, 2012 at the Public Banking in America Conference, Philadelphia, PA.
Thanks Rene, that clip is great. :D
Victoria may have a better grasp on our banking system than some of the so called experts. At least she asks some very good questions which is in stark contrast to the blather we get from the "too big to fail" idiot bank CEO's who tell us "it's too complicated!".
Victoria should be applying for the job of CEO at JP Morgan. There maybe an opening there soon as the incumbent CEO Jamie Dimon has now admitted to losing $2 billion (or is it $4 billion) in complicated banking mumbo jumbo.
Gerhard,
The only fascist behavior is coming from Harper and his thugs. Go through the 14 indications of fascism on the link and see for yourself how many he is exhibiting. As Bob G. says, there is far too much power in the hands of a few in oil company boards and government puppets of these corporations. North America is under the control of only about 140 or so people in total, talk about a concentration of power. It will only worsen as fossil fuel scarcity increases, jacking prices and giving even higher profits to Big oil, coal, etc...
Roger,
Take the top 10 corporations in North America and add up the number of people on their board of directors, add in a dozen people in the U.S. government and add one person for the Canadian government and you get about 140 people. The only thing that is hysterical about this is that it is true, would you like a list of all their names and the fraction of the North American economy that they control? Yes, the truth hurts sometimes.
Claude,
It is my opinion (and that of many others) that the Canadian government in NOT a democracy any longer. Would you like me to list each of the 14 points and rate Harpers level on a 1-10 scale for each of the points? Stop with the hysterics and visceral reaction (I assume such was displayed in your 5:51 post and then deleted at 7:38 as emotions calmed), and we can debate each of these 14 points seperately; I doubt that you even looked past the title of that link.
You haven't been reading the press then, the corporate media or the aternative media then. It is not violence that equates the two things, although both have violence. It is the ideological links and the fact that many commentators, OWS and student activists have openly stated that this is part of one broader movement. The same minds that brought you OWS have brought you the student movement. Why do you think the student groups want Quebec universities to no longer engage in reasearch because it 'only profits corporations'. Even at a very basic level who is more part of the 99% than students?
You may or may not like the Quebec student situation but it is part and parcel of the OWS movement.
Aha!! A very clever move by the decision makers at OWS Central. First they occupy Wall Street, then a sudden shift to disgruntled students in Quebec.
By the way, for those of us who aren't in the know, does OWS Central have a website? Do they have policy/strategy setting sessions or conventions? Who is on their board of directors? Who speaks for OWS and where will they turn up next?
"We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office." - Aesop
"Only the dead have seen the end of war." - Plato
"If once a man indulges himself in murder, very soon he comes to think little of robbing; and from robbing he comes next to drinking and Sabbath-breaking, and from that to incivility and procrastination." - Thomas De Quincey
Claude, please provide a list of the characteristics/traits of fascism as you define it if you dispute the 14 tenets that were compiled from a historical view by a professor based on past regimes of fascism. What is ridiculous about this article; it is just a description of the term?
Hi Paul,
"Stop with the hysterics and visceral reaction (I assume such was displayed in your 5:51 post and then deleted at 7:38 as emotions calmed)"
I had'nt seen your post before finishing my post.
"I doubt that you even looked past the title of that link. "
I read them and went to the basic site, read an article about the workers of fukushima rampaging the streets or something.
"Claude, please provide a list of the characteristics/traits of fascism as you define it if you dispute the 14 tenets that were compiled from a historical view by a professor based on past regimes of fascism. "
humm... let me have a look...
I don't have much to add of interest there, it's just an overload of information. I could maybe see why you would feel threatened by an organisation or someone who would act that way,
Claude Carrier
Last edited by Claude C; Friday, 18th May, 2012, 06:01 AM.
Aha!! A very clever move by the decision makers at OWS Central. First they occupy Wall Street, then a sudden shift to disgruntled students in Quebec.
By the way, for those of us who aren't in the know, does OWS Central have a website? Do they have policy/strategy setting sessions or conventions? Who is on their board of directors? Who speaks for OWS and where will they turn up next?
You're not very familiar with how activists work are you? Let me give you a hint. They work much like your beloved OCA. No minutes, no accountability, no formal organization per se but you are welcome to join them anytime you like. And if you ask them they are all doing a great job.
If you seriously think the OWS movement is going to organize themselves along the lines of OWS Inc. like a corporation you have seriously missed the point.
They will next turn up at any G20 or similar meeting dressed in black to bash everything in sight.
Last edited by Zeljko Kitich; Thursday, 17th May, 2012, 10:38 PM.
Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's...
The OWS movement and the student riots in Quebec and the disgraceful situation in Caledonia have little to do with democracy. It is thugs exerting their thuggishness over a complacent population with the complicity of weak political leadership. Nothing more and nothing less. Celebrating or even condoning thuggishness is wrong, short-sighted and stupid. I hope the Montreal subway terrorists get the full punishment that they deserve which I understand could be five or more years in prison.
I believe in democracy as a theory but the practice leaves me disgusted at times. In practice its all about looting.
Possibly they agree with you, as summed up in this otherwise funny proverb: Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank; give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.
I'll admit that they loop (find loopholes) rather than loot. The result of the looping, though, is more destructive.
Not really. It is actually 138 and they own the oil companies and direct deposit money into my account every time I make a post on chesstalk criticizing green energy policies.
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