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  • We must all judge, individually for ourselves, with caution about "expert" opinions, what is REAL (The mission of The REAL News) and what is false ("disinformation").

    Bob A (The Cure is NOT worse than the disease)

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    • Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
      We must all judge, individually for ourselves, with caution about "expert" opinions, what is REAL (The mission of The REAL News) and what is false ("disinformation").

      Bob A (The Cure is NOT worse than the disease)
      Pity you are incapable of doing that.

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      • COVID-19 Variants - Not Finished with Us Yet

        "Many people are sick with flu, while others have RSV or other routine winter viruses. But COVID-19 is also tearing through the population, thanks largely to the highly contagious JN.1 variant. Just like every year since 2021, this one is starting with a COVID-19 surge—and Americans are getting a good glimpse of what their “new normal” may look like, says Katelyn Jetelina, the epidemiologist who writes the Your Local Epidemiologist newsletter."

        Would, again, masking, disinfectant washing and practising social distancing help?

        https://time.com/6554340/covid-19-su...lctg=206908353

        Bob A

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        • Best to stock up on illegal immigrants to keep the machines humming along ... too sarcastic?

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          • Originally posted by Bob Armstrong
            Would, again, masking, disinfectant washing, and practicing social distancing help?
            According to the Cochrane Databases, masking is nothing but a virtue signal and is scientifically proven to be useless. As per Dr. Fauci in a recent House Committee hearing, social distancing is a farce that was arbitrarily imposed on the populace with ZERO scientific evidence supporting its usefulness. Good hygiene is always a good idea.
            It has been known since 1973 that lockdowns could never work. This was simply the greatest heist in human history, wiping out small businesses, with the biggest beneficiaries being businesses like Amazon. You only have to look at the Pandemic rehearsal of October 2019, "event 201," to know none of this was a coincidence.

            https://centerforhealthsecurity.org/...letop-exercise

            You would have to be out of your mind to inject yourself nine times (!) and trust governments who want you dead by suppressing cheap repurposed drugs
            that work in favor of an unproven gene-altering poison! And indeed, Bob, by your own admission, sadly, you are.

            So here is a great article based on a 1973 paper that proved long ago that lockdowns could never work,


            The Antarctic Expedition That Showed Lockdowns Would Never Work

            And Never Will


            JAN 3, 2024


            In 1969, 14 men ventured to the British Antarctic Survey Base on Adelaide Island. It is situated on the south-west coast of the Antarctic Peninsula, around 1000 miles south of the Falkland Islands. The base is isolated from late March to mid-December every year which coincides with the departure and arrival of two survey aircraft.


            Adelaide Island was first sighted from the brig Tula in February 1832 when completing a circumnavigation of the Antarctic continent. The ship’s master, John Biscoe, named the land after Queen Adelaide, the wife of British monarch King William IV. It was not until the British Graham Land Expedition of 1934–37 that Adelaide was confirmed to be an island separate from the Antarctic Peninsula.

            The 14 men arrived by sea and air at various times between December 1968 and March 1969, relieving a previous group of men. The Base members were all between the ages of 21 and 35 and in good health.

            The last aircraft left on 18 March and flew north for the winter, after which the Base was completely isolated from the outside world, except for radio. In effect, these 14 men were in lockdown with their only company being each other and five husky dogs.


            They lived in dry wooden huts in the form of a small complex of buildings, heated by solid fuel burners. However, the sleeping hut was made of fibreglass and was heated with a small electric convector heater, supplemented by paraffin stoves in the colder months. This meant the sleeping hut could get damp on occasions.

            Food mainly came from packets or tins and there were no fresh fruits or vegetables. They did supplement their diets with regular vitamin tablets. Bread was baked daily and occasionally meat was thawed for a special treat.

            In the winter months there was very little daylight or none at all. Other than the husky dogs an occasional penguin or seal might wander by.

            The medical history of each Base member was noted throughout the period of isolation and when symptoms and signs appeared they were recorded on daily observation charts. Serum and nasal samples were taken monthly from the men.

            This was the closest you will ever get to a controlled clinical trial to establish whether lockdowns work to prevent the transmission of viruses. These men were alone, for months on end, in the middle of nowhere.

            Before this expedition it was commonly believed that on small Antarctic bases such as this, isolated for many months, upper respiratory infections died out in the first few weeks of isolation. Previously, the arrival of relief ships or aircraft resulted in outbreaks of respiratory diseases.

            However, this time something strange happened.

            As I say, 14 young and healthy men arrived at the Base with no illnesses. The last aircraft left on 18 March leaving them in total isolation. For the next 17 weeks, all the men remained in good health with no colds observed or detected clinically. Two men left the Base with their dog teams at the end of June for 6 months, during which time they suffered no respiratory symptoms.

            Then, on 14 July 1969, one of the 12 remaining men presented with respiratory symptoms closely resembling those of a mild to moderately severe cold. Over the next 2 weeks, eight out of the 12 men suffered similar respiratory symptoms and a further two had attacks of sneezing.

            Remember, these men had not seen another soul for 17 weeks and had been healthy the whole time but then suddenly, out of nowhere, a virus had made them ill.

            Of the four men who showed minimal or no symptoms, two worked in a separate hut during the daytime and shared the same sleeping cubicle. Another tended to work at night and slept during the day, thus reducing contact with other Base members.

            Whilst looking at all the environmental factors, researchers noticed that the outbreak occurred just over 3 weeks after midwinter and was preceded by 2 weeks of bad weather conditions. During this time most people stayed in the safety of the central hut and social contact was thus greatest in the 2 weeks before the outbreak of respiratory disease.

            There was also minimal daylight for the first half of the month and there was no sunshine until 24 July, 10 days after the appearance of the first symptoms.



            Researchers trying to work out what had happened at the Base found that nasal washings from two men, affected in the outbreak, produced cytopathic effects in WI38 cells and these effects were reproduced in the next passage of WI38 cells. The changes in the cells looked similar to those caused by coronaviruses but they couldn’t definitively say that they were caused by a coronavirus.

            No virus was detected when samples were examined with an electron microscope. Nor did the samples yield any pathogenic bacteria.

            Ten volunteers were given pooled nasal secretions from the outbreak and only one doubtful cold was produced. Nasal secretions were taken from these volunteers and given to a further seven participants, none of which produced any symptoms.

            The researchers concluded that the occurrence of a common cold during isolation, when the chances of introduction of a new infection from the outside was virtually nil, implied that in some way the virus persisted, either in the environment or in the men.

            One way for the virus to persist was in the respiratory tract of one or more of the men. If such were the case it would be necessary to postulate a triggering mechanism to precipitate the symptoms. The researchers found it interesting that the symptoms occurred 4 days after a precipitous fall in outside temperatures and during one of the coldest months of the year.

            Non-respiratory viruses such as those of the herpes group often persist for the lifetime of a human so why would it not be the case for other groups of viruses? Observations in animals have shown that pigs can carry swine influenza and transmit infections to other pigs 3 months later.

            What this cold outbreak shows is that however hard or early you lockdown, you will never be able to prevent transmission of a virus. Viral swarms exist within each of us and eventually these will mutate to evade the host’s immune system or better adapt to the host environment. Mutations may occur in one individual or when the swarms mix when humans interact with others.

            Even in the complete isolation of an Antarctic Base, a virus managed to escape detection for over 17 weeks before producing symptoms in an individual and then spreading to others.

            Lockdowns don’t, and will never work.

            Information taken from the Original 1973 Study


            https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/the-antarctic-expedition-that-showed








            Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Thursday, 18th January, 2024, 07:54 AM.

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            • EXCLUSIVE: Email Reveals Why CDC Didn’t Issue Alert on COVID Vaccines and Myocarditis

              CDC officials were worried about causing panic.A health care worker fills a syringe with Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine in a file image. (Robyn Beck/AFP via Getty Images)
              By Zachary Stieber
              1/25/2024
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              The nation’s top public health agency did not send an alert on COVID-19 vaccines and heart inflammation because officials were concerned they would cause panic, according to an email obtained by The Epoch Times.

              The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in 2021 drafted an alert for heart inflammation, or myocarditis, and the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines. Officials prepared to release it to the public, taking steps including having the agency’s director review the language, internal documents show.

              The alert would have been sent through the CDC’s Health Alert System (HAN) network, which goes to state and local officials, as well as doctors, across the country.

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              The alert was never sent.

              In the May 25, 2021, email, exclusively obtained by The Epoch Times, a CDC official revealed why some officials were against sending the alert.

              “The pros and cons of an official HAN are what the main discussion are right now,” Dr. Sara Oliver, the official, wrote in the missive. “I think it’s likely to be a HAN since that is CDC’s primary method of communications to clinicians and public health departments, but people don’t want to appear alarmist either.”

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              Dr. Oliver was corresponding with an employee of either Pfizer or Moderna. The employee’s name and email were redacted in the copy obtained by The Epoch Times.

              Dr. Oliver did not respond to a request for comment. Asked about the email, the CDC did not address Dr. Oliver’s statement.

              The “CDC’s apparent decision to not immediately issue a formal alert to clinicians warning them about the increased risk of myocarditis and pericarditis in vaccinated individuals is not only inexcusable, it’s malpractice,” Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), the top Republican on the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee’s Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, told The Epoch Times in an email.

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              • Americas - USA

                COVID-19 - Drugs - Available/Unavailable

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                "The antiviral drug Paxlovid is widely available, but it’s only approved for people at high risk of severe disease, such as older adults and people with underlying conditions.
                .............
                Antivirals currently available overseas seem to be effective at shortening the length and treating the symptoms of mild-to-moderate cases of COVID-19."

                https://time.com/6588624/covid-19-an...lctg=206908353

                Bob A

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                • Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
                  Americas - USA

                  COVID-19 - Drugs - Available/Unavailable

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                  "The antiviral drug Paxlovid is widely available, but it’s only approved for people at high risk of severe disease, such as older adults and people with underlying conditions.
                  .............
                  Antivirals currently available overseas seem to be effective at shortening the length and treating the symptoms of mild-to-moderate cases of COVID-19."

                  https://time.com/6588624/covid-19-an...lctg=206908353

                  Bob A
                  Paxlovid In their own trials, it was worthless in the vaccinated. Minimally effective with risk of rebound in unvaxxed. Only been shown to prevent severe symptoms, not death, in unvaxxed. Side effects aren’t it’s major problem as it isn’t on board long enough to induce or downregulate P450 enzymes. The major drawback of all of these anti-viral drugs is that the disease isn’t viral. It’s a viral infection, but it’s a disease of the inflammation regulation pathways and immune system regulation mechanisms. All the effective treatments are aimed at those two issues, not at the pathogen. Paxlovid is 1390.00 for around 30 pills, and it does not work in later non viral stages of the disease.

                  Ivermectin is effective at all stages of the disease and costs around 70.00 USD for a package of 50 12mg pills. Banned in Canada, available in the US, including over-the-counter for humans in Tenessee and over-the-counter for animals in all fifty states. Animal pills are the same as the human ones. I had the particularly virulent delta variant in November 2021 and treated myself with Ivermectin HCQ Quercetin D3 C Zinc; Tumeric got through no problem and ended up with superior longer, lasting natural immunity.
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                  • First peer-reviewed paper to call for a worldwide moratorium on C19 vaccines due to the "unacceptably high risk-to-benefit ratio."


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                    Our understanding of COVID-19 vaccinations and their impact on health and mortality has evolved substantially since the first vaccine rollouts. Published reports from the original randomized phase 3 trials concluded that the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines could greatly reduce COVID-19 symptoms. In the interim, problems with the methods, execution, and reporting of these pivotal trials have emerged. Re-analysis of the Pfizer trial data identified statistically significant increases in serious adverse events (SAEs) in the vaccine group. Numerous SAEs were identified following the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA), including death, cancer, cardiac events, and various autoimmune, hematological, reproductive, and neurological disorders. Furthermore, these products never underwent adequate safety and toxicological testing in accordance with previously established scientific standards. Among the other major topics addressed in this narrative review are the published analyses of serious harms to humans, quality control issues and process-related impurities, mechanisms underlying adverse events (AEs), the immunologic basis for vaccine inefficacy, and concerning mortality trends based on the registrational trial data. The risk-benefit imbalance substantiated by the evidence to date contraindicates further booster injections and suggests that, at a minimum, the mRNA injections should be removed from the childhood immunization program until proper safety and toxicological studies are conducted.

                    Federal agency approval of the COVID-19 mRNA vaccines on a blanket-coverage population-wide basis had no support from an honest assessment of all relevant registrational data and commensurate consideration of risks versus benefits. Given the extensive, well-documented SAEs and unacceptably high harm-to-reward ratio, we urge governments to endorse a global moratorium on the modified mRNA products until all relevant questions pertaining to causality, residual DNA, and aberrant protein production are answered.

                    https://www.cureus.com/articles/203052-covid-19-mrna-vaccines-lessons-learned-from-the-registrational-trials-and-global-vaccination-campaign#!/

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                    • Parliamentary MAID committee releases damning report against Liberal expansion of assisted suicide


                      A special parliamentary committee released a report Monday urging Ottawa to park the breaks on expanding assisted suicide legislation to include mental illness. A 2021 annual report said 31,664 Canadians accessed the procedure between 2016 and 2021.
                      A special parliamentary committee released a report Monday urging Ottawa to park the breaks on expanding assisted suicide legislation.

                      "Committee concludes that the medical system in Canada is not prepared for medical assistance in dying where mental disorder is the sole underlying medical condition (hereinafter “MAID MD-SUMC”), the report reads. It recommends not moving forward with the expansion to include mental illness until the departments of health and justice adequately consult provincial and territorial governments.

                      After MAID became legal in 2016, a Quebec court expanded access after judges ruled the "reasonably foreseeable" death clause unconstitutional.

                      In 2021, Ottawa permitted anyone with "a serious and incurable illness, disease or disability" who is in "an advanced state of irreversible decline" to access MAID — not including the mentally ill. However, the Senate permitted those with "irremediable" mental illness to access the procedure in a controversial amendment that passed later that year.

                      On Monday, Conservative and NDP MPs on the committee called for a pause to the planned expansion of eligibility for such cases, initially scheduled for March 17. The committee, made up of 15 MPs and senators, had to determine whether the healthcare system is prepared for the expansion.
                      Angelina Ireland of Delta Hospice Society describes the Medical assistance in dying program (MAID), as a "predatory regime against the Canadian people."https://t.co/TlhyHul70J pic.twitter.com/1IlDvrWQ89

                      — Rebel News (@RebelNewsOnline) January 27, 2024



                      "One year prior to the date on which it is anticipated that the law will permit MAID MD-SUMC the House of Commons and the Senate re-establish the Special Joint Committee on Medical Assistance in Dying (MAID) in order to verify the degree of preparedness attained for a safe and adequate application of MAID MD-SUMC," the report reads.

                      If the Trudeau Liberals adopt the recommendations of the all-party committee, it would mark the second delay of the expansion after a previous year-long delay. Health Minister Mark Holland will decide after the committee submits its report by January 31.

                      Conservative MP Michael Cooper argued that "Canada isn't ready," pointing to concerns raised by psychiatrists about the difficulty for medical professionals in determining the irreversibility of mental illness or the rationality behind a request for assisted death. "These Liberals have put ideology ahead of evidence-based decision making," he claimed.

                      NDP MP Alistair MacGregor, a vice-chair of the committee, criticized the feds for changing the law without proper consultation.

                      According to the 2021 MAID annual report, the number of Canadians accessing the procedure has steadily increased between 2016 and 2021, totalling 31,664 patients, typically above 70 years of age.

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                      • MAID is a blessing for those whose quality of life has become intolerable......the stats give rise to no problem ...the problem was that those with intolerable life conditions, in the past, simply had to suffer their personal torture.

                        I also support the extension of MAID to include mental illness. Some peoples' mental state includes no longer any desire to live.They are cut off from life at their very core...they feel like the walking dead. The only option for them, if not MAID, is suicide. The problem with embracing suicide as the answer to an intolerable life is that the collateral damage to partners, family, friends is most extensive.

                        I agree that the issue of detection of absolute desperation in the case of mental illness is difficult, and the studies must get to the point of saying the system will work well. Also, the government must believe it is in the best interest of society. And a majority of Canadians now support MAID (With the stats unclear as to extension to include mental illness):

                        "....three-in-five Canadians (61%) say they support the current MAID law in Canada, which allows a patient to request the treatment under certain circumstances but without facing foreseeable death."

                        Mental Health and MAID: Canadians question looming changes to Canada’s assisted-death law
                        https://angusreid.org/assisted-dying...mental-health/

                        There is urgency in this task, since some people are suffering intolerable lives........most unfair.

                        Bob A
                        Last edited by Bob Armstrong; Tuesday, 30th January, 2024, 06:29 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post

                          "....three-in-five Canadians (61%) say they support the current MAID law in Canada, which allows a patient to request the treatment under certain circumstances but without facing foreseeable death."


                          There is urgency in this task, since some people are suffering intolerable lives........most unfair.

                          Bob A
                          Is that the same three-in-five Canadians (61%) that do not own a Holy Bible and are not familiar with the healing power of daily prayer?




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                          • Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
                            MAID is a blessing for those whose quality of life has become intolerable......the stats give rise to no problem ...the problem was that those with intolerable life conditions, in the past, simply had to suffer their personal torture.

                            I also support the extension of MAID to include mental illness. Some peoples' mental state includes no longer any desire to live.They are cut off from life at their very core...they feel like the walking dead. The only option for them, if not MAID, is suicide. The problem with embracing suicide as the answer to an intolerable life is that the collateral damage to partners, family, friends is most extensive.

                            I agree that the issue of detection of absolute desperation in the case of mental illness is difficult, and the studies must get to the point of saying the system will work well. Also, the government must believe it is in the best interest of society. And a majority of Canadians now support MAID (With the stats unclear as to extension to include mental illness):

                            "....three-in-five Canadians (61%) say they support the current MAID law in Canada, which allows a patient to request the treatment under certain circumstances but without facing foreseeable death."

                            Mental Health and MAID: Canadians question looming changes to Canada’s assisted-death law
                            https://angusreid.org/assisted-dying...mental-health/

                            There is urgency in this task, since some people are suffering intolerable lives........most unfair.

                            Bob A
                            Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
                            .three-in-five Canadians (61%) say they support the current MAID law in Canada, which allows a patient to request the treatment under certain circumstances but without facing foreseeable death."
                            Here is a perfect example of your continued support of "tyranny of the majority," allowing a person not capable of making a logical decision to commit suicide is a violation of section 7 of the Canadian Charter of Rights.
                            No wonder you look for paths to "ditch" constitutions as per your Democratic Marxism thread.

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                            • "The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends that people with Covid-19 isolate for at least five days, but recent policy changes in California and Oregon break from that guidance."

                              https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/23/healt...=1706873827936

                              Bob A

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                              • Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
                                "The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommends that people with Covid-19 isolate for at least five days, but recent policy changes in California and Oregon break from that guidance."

                                https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/23/healt...=1706873827936


                                Bob A
                                Isolate for five days for a virus that has now mutated to the point that it is no worse than a cold???? You still view CNN as a valid source of information? Sigh.The fact that even pharma-corrupted shithole states like California and Oregon would go against the CDC speaks volumes about the credibility of this once-trusted organization.
                                Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Friday, 2nd February, 2024, 12:44 PM.

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