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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    Every time Joe Biden said vaccines prevent COVID-19

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTlxpxdH3Yk

    Pandemic of misinformation!

    LOOL!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ICBBK-d-C0

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Dilip Panjwani View Post

    It is not absolute numbers; it is per 100,000.
    My question to Sid is whether what is true for the 3 week period shown also holds for much larger periods...
    Dilip the reason we plotted three weeks periods is the Govt Epidemiology reports lump all the data together going all the way back to Dec 20 2020 when almost no one was vaccinated. After five months after the first injection the vaccine efficacy wears off entirely and in fact shows negative efficacy, THe Govt epidemiologist provided an update report every few weeks and they delete the previous ones.
    What we did is we went to the Wayback machine and recovered the deleted files and then subtracted those numbers from the current files to break out whatever time slice we want. I have the spreadsheets and links with the calculations if you are interested..
    Bottomline since around March 2022 the injections have shown negative efficacy. They do more harm than good, and that is not taking into account their horrific safety profile myocarditis etc.
    The injections are neither safe nor effective, and Pfizer et al knew that from the start.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9012513/
    Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Saturday, 23rd July, 2022, 11:58 PM.

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post

    Interesting! Thank you for posting that graphic, Sid. A couple of questions for you:
    - It would be interesting to see some age data with the bar graphs. For example, could it be the case that the triple vaccinated group contains a higher proportion of people with an age vulnerability than the unvaccinated group, thereby skewing the numbers?
    Peter age-stratified data shows the same results in all cohorts , more doses the more the innate immune system is destroyed. Third dose definitely not helpful to the elderly
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  • Neil Frarey
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    Every time Joe Biden said vaccines prevent COVID-19

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTlxpxdH3Yk

    Pandemic of misinformation!

    LOOL!

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Dilip - thanks for the clarification.

    Bob

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  • Dilip Panjwani
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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    Hi Sid:

    The problem with the graph, in my opinion, is that it is using absolute numbers. If the triple vaccinated group has the most no. of people in it (I'm not saying it does; just as an explanation), then obviously it is going to have the greatest number of cases.

    The graph we need is # of cases per 1000 persons, so that we can compare the percentages for each separate group.

    For transparency, I am certainly no stats expert; but this does seem logical to me.

    ~ Bob A (T-S/P)
    It is not absolute numbers; it is per 100,000.
    My question to Sid is whether what is true for the 3 week period shown also holds for much larger periods...

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Hi Sid:

    The problem with the graph, in my opinion, is that it is using absolute numbers. If the triple vaccinated group has the most no. of people in it (I'm not saying it does; just as an explanation), then obviously it is going to have the greatest number of cases.

    The graph we need is # of cases per 1000 persons, so that we can compare the percentages for each separate group.

    For transparency, I am certainly no stats expert; but this does seem logical to me.

    ~ Bob A (T-S/P)

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  • Peter McKillop
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    Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post

    Not according to the epidemiology reports from the Gov't of Canada The more doses, the more the immune system gets destroyed. Greatest Crime against humanity ever perpetrated in history.
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    Interesting! Thank you for posting that graphic, Sid. A couple of questions for you:
    - It would be interesting to see some age data with the bar graphs. For example, could it be the case that the triple vaccinated group contains a higher proportion of people with an age vulnerability than the unvaccinated group, thereby skewing the numbers?

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  • Peter McKillop
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    Dr. Rochelle Walensky

    We have a COVID-19 variant playbook to rapidly assess a variant’s transmissibility and severity, and its potential impact on vaccines and treatment.

    Press Briefing by White House March 2 2022

    ...

    Oopsy oops!

    LOOL!
    And your point is what? That Walensky, from 03/21 to 03/22, with an additional year of data to look at, amended her point of view? Why is that an "Oopsy oops!" Do you never alter your opinions based on new information?

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    AFAIR ..... the medical people (Or most) never said the vaccination was a magic bullet.

    The position almost universally was:

    1. The chance of you getting COVID-19 after being vaccinated dropped substantially.
    2. For the vaccinated who did catch COVID-19, the severity of the consequences dropped substantially. The chance of hospitalization dropped substantially.

    ~ Bob A (T-S/P)
    Not according to the epidemiology reports from the Gov't of Canada The more doses, the more the immune system gets destroyed. Greatest Crime against humanity ever perpetrated in history.
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    Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Saturday, 23rd July, 2022, 07:02 AM.

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  • Aris Marghetis
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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    AFAIR ..... the medical people (Or most) never said the vaccination was a magic bullet.

    The position almost universally was:

    1. The chance of you getting COVID-19 after being vaccinated dropped substantially.
    2. For the vaccinated who did catch COVID-19, the severity of the consequences dropped substantially. The chance of hospitalization dropped substantially.

    ~ Bob A (T-S/P)
    yes, well summarized Bob

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Dr. Rochelle Walensky

    We have a COVID-19 variant playbook to rapidly assess a variant’s transmissibility and severity, and its potential impact on vaccines and treatment.

    Press Briefing by White House March 2 2022

    ...

    Oopsy oops!

    LOOL!

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    AFAIR ..... the medical people (Or most) never said the vaccination was a magic bullet.

    The position almost universally was:

    1. The chance of you getting COVID-19 after being vaccinated dropped substantially.
    2. For the vaccinated who did catch COVID-19, the severity of the consequences dropped substantially. The chance of hospitalization dropped substantially.

    ~ Bob A (T-S/P)

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  • Peter McKillop
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
    Joe Biden has COVID-19!!!


    .... Somebody is not telling you the truth.

    Yeah, you. Deliberately trying to stir up shit by using dated, pre-Omicron information.

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Joe Biden has COVID-19!!!

    But how you might ask? How is that even possible? He and his over paid crack medical people said time and time and time again that it WASN'T possible.

    JUST

    GET

    THE

    SHOTS!


    Joe Biden

    You're OK. You're not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations.

    CNN July 2021


    Dr. Fauci

    People that are vaccinated can feel safe that they are not going to get infected.

    MSNBC May 2021


    Dr. Rochelle Walensky

    Vaccinated people do not carry the virus. They don't get sick. It's not just in the clinical trials but it's also in the real world data.

    MSNBC March 2021

    ...

    Somebody is not telling you the truth.


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