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  • Bob Armstrong
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    COVID-19 - Vaccine & Transmission


    Americas - Canada

    MP Leslyn Lewis Calls for Inquiry After Pfizer Exec Says COVID Vaccine Not Tested on Preventing Transmission

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/leslyn...&utm_content=2

    ~ Bob A (T-S/P)

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Tom O'Donnell View Post
    Big tech censored the Surgeon General of Florida who advised men from the ages of 18-39 to not get the jab, citing evidence that it causes heart problems in that group.
    https://twitter.com/kylenabecker/sta...49529765056513

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  • Tom O'Donnell
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    Big tech censored the Surgeon General of Florida who advised men from the ages of 18-39 to not get the jab, citing evidence that it causes heart problems in that group.

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    I understood Pfizer to have stated that vaccination would DECREASE, NOT "stop", the chance of transmission.

    Nevertheless, they did have to have SOME evidence of this to even make this limited declaration......

    I always understood the MAIN, and most important, claim to be:

    - when you actually got COVID-19 by transmission, the vaccine lessened the negative consequences of the virus......for example, less chance of death, less chance of hospitalization, and less severe symptoms.

    Am I not right on this?

    ~ Bob A (T-S/P)
    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    I understood Pfizer to have stated that vaccination would DECREASE, NOT "stop", the chance of transmission

    Nevertheless, they did have to have SOME evidence of this to even make this limited declaration.
    You ": understood " wrong, but that is because you were lied to. Go to the 2:00-minute mark on the video Neil posted. The Pfizer executive clearly states that they never tested for transmission, therefore, as Neil, stated, they had no scientific evidence to make a statement that it would decrease, stop or otherwise prevent transmission. This removed the entire legal basis for the Covid passport, as MEP Rob Roos said.on the video “This is scandalous. Millions of people worldwide felt forced to get vaccinated because of the myth that ‘you do it for others’.”
    “Get vaccinated for others” was always a lie, tweeted MEP Rob Roos yesterday.
    And you expect us to trust in the benevolence and goodness of Govts, what a joke!

    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    I always understood the MAIN, and most important, claim to be:

    - when you actually got COVID-19 by transmission, the vaccine lessened the negative consequences of the virus......for example, less chance of death, less chance of hospitalization, and less severe symptoms.
    You and I already covered this ground above, that was also a proven lie
    https://forum.chesstalk.com/forum/ch...685#post221685

    I would urge you to listen to this video I already posted below by a highly respected long-time pharma drug trial professional.


    https://www.bitchute.com/embed/oWz8tNM9dK0n/



    Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Wednesday, 12th October, 2022, 07:40 AM.

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    I understood Pfizer to have stated that vaccination would DECREASE, NOT "stop", the chance of transmission.

    Nevertheless, they did have to have SOME evidence of this to even make this limited declaration......

    I always understood the MAIN, and most important, claim to be:

    - when you actually got COVID-19 by transmission, the vaccine lessened the negative consequences of the virus......for example, less chance of death, less chance of hospitalization, and less severe symptoms.

    Am I not right on this?

    ~ Bob A (T-S/P)

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Pfizer finally admits that they never had any scientific evidence that being vaccinated would stop transmission of the Covid-19 virus.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMFrOIebS0k

    Think about that for a moment.

    Those who were unvaccinated couldn't keep a job. Couldn't get on a plane. Couldn't even go into a restaurant.
    Why was the public so grossly mislead with this disinformation campaign concerning virus transmissiblilty?

    Pandemic of the vaccinated.

    Humans are easy.

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    https://www.bitchute.com/embed/oWz8tNM9dK0n/

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post

    From that link this bar chart compiled by VAERS is sooo worth posting ...

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  • Neil Frarey
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    Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
    If you have any doubts, this author has compiled a great list of papers.

    https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/the-evidence
    From that link this bar chart compiled by VAERS is sooo worth posting ...

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    If you have any doubts, this author has compiled a great list of papers.

    https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/the-evidence

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Coming soon to Canada!
    https://www.truthforhealth.org/2022/...-fresno-calif/

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    Thanks Sid - very detailed analysis.......I will take some time with it.

    Obviously I am not happy with my take on your proposition (I am not sure you are actually going this far):

    All mainstream medical researchers/scientists, AND all the industry magazines that publish their reports, are compromised by the tainted money of Big Pharma.

    ~ Bob A (T-S/P)
    Not all, but many, hence you have to analyze the data yourself.

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Thanks Sid - very detailed analysis.......I will take some time with it.

    Obviously I am not happy with my take on your proposition (I am not sure you are actually going this far):

    All mainstream medical researchers/scientists, AND all the industry magazines that publish their reports, are compromised by the tainted money of Big Pharma.

    ~ Bob A (T-S/P)

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  • Sid Belzberg
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    Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
    Human Health

    COVID-19/Omicron

    "As new Omicron-specific boosters become available in the U.S., a study published today in JAMA Internal Medicine emphasizes the importance and success of boosters in keeping people infected with COVID-19 out of the hospital."

    https://time.com/6211921/covid-19-bo...lctg=206908353

    ~ Bob A (T-S/P)
    Hi Bob,
    In the last decade or so high, quality medical journals have been corrupted by the large pharma companies that dictate what is published with the threat
    of withdrawal of sponsorship if these dictates are not followed. The same is true for the actual investigators
    During the Pandemic the most infamous example of this was the anti HCQ article in The Lancet published by Mehra et al that had to be retracted weeks later as
    the data was proven to be literally created out of thin air.
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...180-6/fulltext
    The goal at the time was to discredit all therpeutics and make sure all roads led to mass vaccination.

    As far as the article you have posted here is concerned, these investigators are on the big pharma corruption payroll.:
    followthemoney.org” is a very interesting tool for looking for potential conflicts of interest:

    For Fiona P. Havers: https://www.followthemoney.org/entit...s?eid=42181209

    For Huangmai Pham: https://www.followthemoney.org/entit...s?eid=19504449

    For Christopher A. Taylor: couldn’t be sure as there are multiple and none seemed to fit a medical researcher

    For Michael Whitaker: couldn’t be sure as there are multiple and none seemed to fit a medical researcher

    For Meredith McMorrow: https://www.followthemoney.org/entit...s?eid=50293168 and https://www.followthemoney.org/entit...s?eid=54805491

    I didn’t go through more—just the first 4 and last author, but I think you get the picture, especially with the first author’s activity. In an article our medical forum published on political donations and hydroxychloroquine use in COVID (attached) we found a similar donation pattern. At this point in time, it is not enough just to list monetary income from drug companies. Medical publications have come to have a political component as well, and readers should be able to consider that when weighing the purpose of articles and if there may be an unintentional skew to the experimental design and the findings.

    If that is not enough the study itself has many obvious short comings.



    The "key point" conclusion does not match the study which was over 16 months. not the 4 "OMICRON" months : " Findings In this cross-sectional study of US adults hospitalized with COVID-19 during January 2022 to April 2022 (during Omicron variant predominance), COVID-19-associated hospitalization rates were 10.5 times higher in unvaccinated persons and 2.5 times higher in vaccinated persons with no booster dose, respectively, compared with those who had received a booster dose."

    But the study period for the article was January, 2021 to April, 2022. This is the title-
    "COVID-19-Associated Hospitalizations Among Vaccinated and Unvaccinated Adults 18 Years or Older in 13 US States, January 2021 to April 2022"

    They did not extract 2022 data from the remainder to reach the "key point." Therefore mixing in early data when very few people were vaccinated ie January 2021 completely tilts the data to the unvaccinated group.

    This is a favorite trick of the Canadian Govt data that always go back to mid December 2020 when showing data when no one was vaccinated and you end up with a result like this:

    https://health-infobase.canada.ca/covid-19/

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    But when you take two reports and subtract the prior report from the current report to get the time period in question that does not mix in data when no one was vaccinated in the beginning of the vaccine roll out, you get a result more like this.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20220427...-19-cases.html
    https://web.archive.org/web/20220614...a.ca/covid-19/

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    The injections are neither safe nor effective!
    https://doctors4covidethics.org/vasc...-of-causality/

    Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Monday, 12th September, 2022, 02:39 PM.

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  • Bob Armstrong
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    Human Health

    COVID-19/Omicron

    "As new Omicron-specific boosters become available in the U.S., a study published today in JAMA Internal Medicine emphasizes the importance and success of boosters in keeping people infected with COVID-19 out of the hospital."

    https://time.com/6211921/covid-19-bo...lctg=206908353

    ~ Bob A (T-S/P)

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