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Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post
The article is titled: "Treatment with Ivermectin Is Associated with Decreased Mortality in COVID-19 Patients"
The article only compares IVM vs remdesivir.
They shall correct the misleading title.
Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View PostThey shall correct the misleading title..
"Conclusion
Ivermectin use was associated with decreased mortality in patients with COVID-19 compared to remdesivir. To our knowledge, this is the largest association study of patients with COVID-19, mortality and ivermectin"
Take up with The Journal of Infectious Diseases if you think the title is "misleading." I would guess they would think you are some sort of nut cae.
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Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
You basically asked if the cases were selected to exclude confounding factors, they were, as I already posted. Now you are saying the opposite.
The article only compares IVM vs remdesivir.
They shall correct the misleading title.
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Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post
If they did that it would have been no problem for them to scale down those 40000 towards 1000 to match ALL criteria and start comparing.
"There were a total of 1,761,060 possible COVID-19 patients based on ICD-10 diagnostic terms and confirmatory lab results. Prior to controlling, our analysis yielded 41,608 patients who had COVID-19 resulting in two unique cohorts that were treated with either ivermectin (1,072) or remdesivir (40,536)."
What about the rest of 1,761,060 - 1,072- 40,536 ~ 1.3 M cases?
"We retrospectively identified adults (≥18 years) with a recorded COVID-19 infection between January 1, 2020 and July 11, 2021."
Vaccination cases in those stats?
Sid, let us know when they'll publish a full article or provide a full presentation.Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View PostWhat about the rest of 1,761,060 - 1,072- 40,536 ~ 1.3 M cases?
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Originally posted by Brian Profit View Post
Classic Sid, being a dick.
As for the graphs of total deaths you posted, even though vaccines were starting to be available in Dec 21, in the US, they were not yet widely available. By the time they were more widely used, (March), the graph levels off. But deaths continued because of people such as yourself, restrictions were lifted, and then the variants started.Originally posted by Brian Profit View PostBut deaths continued because of people such as yourself
1)The CDC Director has admitted that the Injections do not prevent infection or transmission of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that has been identified by various public health agencies as causing the disease known as COVID-19. “W]hat [the vaccines] can’t do anymore is prevent transmission."
2) The CDC has acknowledged that the “vaccinated” and “unvaccinated” are equally likely to spread the virus.
3). The Injections do not confer immunity but are claimed to reduce the severity of symptoms experienced by those infected by SARS-CoV-2They are, therefore, treatments and not vaccines as that term has always been defined in the law
Madeline Holcomb, Fully Vaccinated People Who Get a CoVID-19 Breakthrough Infection Transmit the Virus, CDC Chief Says, CNN HEALTH (August 6, 2021) https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/05/healt...day/index.html
see also The New England Journal of Medicine, Resurgence of SARS-CoV-2 Infection in a Highly Vaccinated Health System Workforce, N ENGL J MED 2021; 385:1330-1332 (September 30, 2021) https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2112981
2 Brown CM, Vostok J, Johnson H, et al. Outbreak of SARS-CoV-2 Infections, Including COVID19 Vaccine Breakthrough Infections, Associated with Large Public Gatherings — Barnstable County, Massachusetts, July 2021. MMWR MORB MORTAL WKLY REP 2021;70:1059-1062. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/...cid=mm7031e2_w
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Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
Do you ever read anything before opening up your yap?
As for the graphs of total deaths you posted, even though vaccines were starting to be available in Dec 21, in the US, they were not yet widely available. By the time they were more widely used, (March), the graph levels off. But deaths continued because of people such as yourself, restrictions were lifted, and then the variants started.
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Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
Do you ever read anything before opening up your yap?
"We controlled for the following demographics, comorbidities, and treatments that may affect COVID-19 survival outcomes: age, gender, race, ethnicity, nicotine use diabetes mellitus, obesity, chronic lower respiratory disease, ischemic heart diseases, tocilizumab, glucocorticoids, or ventilator use. We measured association with mortality as the primary outcome, with significance assessed at p<0.05."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...1971221009887#
"There were a total of 1,761,060 possible COVID-19 patients based on ICD-10 diagnostic terms and confirmatory lab results. Prior to controlling, our analysis yielded 41,608 patients who had COVID-19 resulting in two unique cohorts that were treated with either ivermectin (1,072) or remdesivir (40,536)."
What about the rest of 1,761,060 - 1,072- 40,536 ~ 1.3 M cases?
"We retrospectively identified adults (≥18 years) with a recorded COVID-19 infection between January 1, 2020 and July 11, 2021."
Vaccination cases in those stats?
Sid, let us know when they'll publish a full article or provide a full presentation.
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Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post
Did they publish extended analyzes not just a short abstract? 1000 younger vs 40000 older patients... The conclusion could have been that the older population has more chances of dying too... (Though that is nothing new)
Probably there were IVM+remdesivir group too. What are their results on that?
"We controlled for the following demographics, comorbidities, and treatments that may affect COVID-19 survival outcomes: age, gender, race, ethnicity, nicotine use diabetes mellitus, obesity, chronic lower respiratory disease, ischemic heart diseases, tocilizumab, glucocorticoids, or ventilator use. We measured association with mortality as the primary outcome, with significance assessed at p<0.05."
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...1971221009887#
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Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
Probably there were IVM+remdesivir group too. What are their results on that?
Do plastic surgeons have no work anymore?
1 University of Miami, Plastic Surgery, Miami, United States
2 University of Miami, Urology, Miami, United States
3 University of Miami, Plastic Surgery, Miami, United States
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Originally posted by Peter McKillop View Post
By the way here are the two papers that Dr. Campbell did a nice job of explaining
https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...1971221009887#
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35070575/
Enlighten us, Peter, and tell us what the commentator in this video said that was incorrect.Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Tuesday, 8th March, 2022, 02:40 AM.
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Originally posted by Tom O'Donnell View PostLast edited by Peter McKillop; Monday, 7th March, 2022, 09:59 PM.
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Originally posted by Hans Jung View PostSpain is the 17th country to go over 100,000 deaths.
Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Saturday, 5th March, 2022, 09:20 AM.
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