The One and Only Climate Change thread...

[Vlad Drkulec]

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Studied business at U. of Windsor? Did you get the degree; or just study. Since you do not state your degree I guess you did not complete it.

Your guess would be wrong but then you should be used to that, Sherlock. Unlike you, I am not so insecure that I need to parade my degrees in front of the masses. The more information you put out there, the easier it is for people to cause mischief. I regularly offend against your false gods of climate science and my answers annoy you enough to send you feverishly googling and scouring facebook for tidbits to use against me. I haven't done the same for you because everything I need is posted here and you are of far lesser importance to me than I obviously am to you.

[Vlad Drkulec]

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Last night was a full moon. Strange things happen around that time.

Actually, the moon is the closest to earth than it has been in close to 20 years. It's characterized by things like higher tides. Some think it's also a factor in earthquakes but I don't know what kind of evidence there is for that claim.

I think that there is some correlation with strange behaviour from certain individuals usually ones with underlying issues but its hard to say if this is because of real effects of the moon or simply awareness of the phases of the moon. I doubt that the forces in play are enough to cause earthquakes but would be willing to change my beliefs unless the evidence were presented by one of Chicken Little's trusted websites.

[Gary Ruben]

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No longer in the business, but his figure may indeed be correct. Nuclear has always been terribly expensive to build, but once there is the cheapest base load power, which is why Ontario will continue to refurbish it's nuclear fleet.....to a point!

I hope your chess doesn't encompass such "newbie mistakes". May be you guys ahould stick to chess.......

Why don't you ask him to tell you the cost of putting up solar panels and how many years at the high prices for payback?

Those reactors in Japan were privately owned and not government owned. The company was ordered to use sea water to try to cool them down, or so they said on CNN. The reluctance had to do with them never going back online after cooling them that way.

I imagine it will take months to cool down those reactors in Japan. Let's hear it for 40 year old reactors! Let's hear it for the Mark I reactor design.

[Fred Harvey]

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You are endlessly amusing. There is no truth in what you write but you certainly write a lot of it. I would expect someone with a master's degree in physics would be able to at least quote the correct units of measure. $10,800 per kilowatt century, kilowatt year, kilowatt hour? How am I supposed to believe anything that you say or write when you regularly make such newbie mistakes?

Well, now, I do believe he was quoting the capital cost of building nuclear plants, usually quoted in $ per kilowatt. This is rather different than the cost of generating it, usually quoted in $ per kilowatt hour.

No longer in the business, but his figure may indeed be correct. Nuclear has always been terribly expensive to build, but once there is the cheapest base load power, which is why Ontario will continue to refurbish it's nuclear fleet.....to a point!

I hope your chess doesn't encompass such "newbie mistakes". May be you guys ahould stick to chess.......

[Gary Ruben]

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Last night was a full moon. Strange things happen around that time.

Actually, the moon is the closest to earth than it has been in close to 20 years. It's characterized by things like higher tides. Some think it's also a factor in earthquakes but I don't know what kind of evidence there is for that claim.

[Vlad Drkulec]

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You are not a doctor; how on earth did I think that. I noticed that you did not correct me; I wonder why not. You studied business at University of Windsor and your interests are Tunnel Duty Free Shop, Michigan Chess Association, Chapters Indigo Books & Music Inc. Obviously great credentials for overuling the scientific community. You are a joke...

Your ineffectual google stalking amused me as does your perusing of my facebook profile and your need to obsessively reveal everything that you learned. It brought back memories of other days. I did correct you but my correction was too subtle for someone of your limited capabilities. The opponents that I used to deal with were much smarter and would pick up on such subtle turns of phrase. I won't make the same mistake again.

Why don't you take your dishonesty, stupidity and your global warming hysteria and preach it to those who won't contradict you in an environment where you can control the responses. That seems to be what you want. Its not going to happen on Chesstalk.

Perhaps you should read outside of your narrow band of true believers and controlled content websites. Most of your more objective compatriots will admit that Climategate effectively torpedoed the global warming agenda. People don't believe anymore. No orchestrated and biased whitewashes can change that fact whether by politicians treating the central figures with kid gloves because they feared Jones was fragile nor by colleagues who were interested in continuing the gravy train.

Anyone who actually read the emails wouldn't trust the central figures in this drama as far as they could throw them.

I joined Facebook because my job required it. I had reservations about Facebook because of past experiences with internet stalkers. I read a lot. I play chess in Michigan and Ontario. Way to go, Sherlock Holmes! Your powers of deduction are amazing. You could have got the same information by reading my posts on either of the chess discussion sites that I primarily post on or by talking to me at a chess tournament.

[Vlad Drkulec]

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Reminder of how expensive nuclear power is; how about $10,800 per kilowatt!

You are endlessly amusing. There is no truth in what you write but you certainly write a lot of it. I would expect someone with a master's degree in physics would be able to at least quote the correct units of measure. $10,800 per kilowatt century, kilowatt year, kilowatt hour? How am I supposed to believe anything that you say or write when you regularly make such newbie mistakes?

[Bob Gillanders]

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hmm...very entertaining,
try this one...some advice for Paul. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5nNb...eature=related

[Vlad Drkulec]

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Vlad's theme song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF5F6...eature=related

I don't know, I'm partial to the following hit by the same group:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-UhykvGaD0&NR=1

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx-t9k7epIk&NR=1

[Gary Ruben]

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Step 1) Liberals cruise to victory in wide margin
Step 2) Rescind all subsidies to fossil fuel industry; what do they need it for
Step 3) observe wailing and gnashing of teeth

The Nanos poll published a couple of days ago had the Cons at 44% and the Libs at 35%. I'd been expecting the Premier to step down by the end of March in favour of a leadership convention but it doesn't look like it will happen.

Regarding higher costs to the fossil fuel industry, see Alberta. The increased the royalties. Companies moved to other jurisdictions and provincial revenues dropped. They dropped the rate now to attract drilling but it takes time until the companies finish their work in the other jurisdictions. I think their Premier stepped down or is stepping down. Another political party has formed in Alberta over this. The Wild Rose Alliance.

BC also won't suffer a fool as their premier. He's had to step down over the HST.

[Bob Gillanders]

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On the lighter side
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9BS2...eature=related

Vlad's theme song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF5F6...eature=related

We could embrace global warming
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9b97...eature=related

It can't be the humans, it must be the hats
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zo7w...eature=related

It can't be the humans, let's blame it on the aliens!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro0fL...eature=related

Deny it all you want, climate change is here, and humans are to blame. :(
The same climate changes would occur in nature anyways, over long periods of time.
But it is human activity that is causing it to happen much quicker.
The oil companies would like us to believe otherwise, but it just ain't so.

[Paul Beckwith]

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Thanks for the IESO link; it shows real-time demand and the going wholesale price. You are looking at the price in the middle of the night, of course it is the lowest point of the day. You also ignore all the other charges the consumer pays, like taxes, distibution fees to pay for all the nuclear plants, etc...Of course a premium must be paid to kickstart an new industry; and you know that premium gets phased out as the technology gets firmly established. As a student of business you may have studied such things. Before the floating rates, the Ontario rate was 5.6 cents/kWh but the consumers paid about 12 or 13 cents per kWh (divide your total electrical bill by kWh used to get this rate). So 80 cents compared to 12 or 13 is about 6.1 - 6.5; you are grossly exaggerating your claims to 20-27x. Of course the 12-13 cents ignores the externalities, like the subsidies and underwriting that the nuclear industry got to build and insure the nuclear plants, the fossil fuel air pollution and particulates that reduce the health of Canadians and the emissions that warm our planet. So you are wrong...

[Paul Beckwith]

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Studied business at U. of Windsor? Did you get the degree; or just study. Since you do not state your degree I guess you did not complete it.

Glad to see you on Facebook. I am at Paul Beckwith, we can be fb friends. Then I will not have to spend so much time destroying your fantasy arguments; others can help out.
Reality is much more interesting than your fantasy...

[Vlad Drkulec]

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Math has always been one of my top subjects. Why do you always ignore the massive subsidies that are built into the price of fossil fuels. Your 20x multiplier is simply not valid when you compare apples to apples. You must also realize that things are more expensive and then price plummets with economies of scale as production methods improve and efficiency improves.

http://www.ieso.ca/imoweb/siteshared...ice.asp?sid=ic

The wholesale price is about 3 cents per kilowatt hour. In that case the subsidy is 20 to 27 times that figure. What percentage of Ontario's electricity has to come from green energy in order to totally bankrupt the province and the consumers of electricity? Not very much actually.

The wholesale price is something you can't obscure or lie about or explain away. What kind of an insane idiot pays 20 times or 27 times the going rate for wholesale electricity? The kind of insane idiot who won't get elected again, would be my guess. I could be wrong but I suspect that in this case I'm not.

Cue Paul's clueless claims that I'm lying. Unlike Paul, I can do simple math. HTH.

[Paul Beckwith]

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You are not a doctor; how on earth did I think that. I noticed that you did not correct me; I wonder why not. You studied business at University of Windsor and your interests are Tunnel Duty Free Shop, Michigan Chess Association, Chapters Indigo Books & Music Inc. Obviously great credentials for overuling the scientific community. You are a joke...