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  • Gary Ruben
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    Originally posted by Paul Beckwith View Post
    Confirmed at 8.9 with 10 m tsunami. An enormous quake, lots of aftershocks felt even in Tokyo.
    It seems the cooling system in one of the reactors isn't working from what I heard on TV. The Americans are sending emergency coolant from what I'm hearing on TV. I guess you know how serious that could be. The aftershocks are also very strong.

    I watched the quake news on CNN as Breaking News before I went to bed this morning.

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  • Paul Beckwith
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    Confirmed at 8.9 with 10 m tsunami. An enormous quake, lots of aftershocks felt even in Tokyo.

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  • Paul Beckwith
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    Massive earthquake off coast of Japan (8.4 on some reports, 8.9 on others) followed by large tsunami that has inundated coast. Occurred roughly 2:20am or so EST, watch live footage of fires/flooding at:

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/03/1...ghout-pacific/

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  • Paul Beckwith
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    Great video from EPA hearings today...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHVrE...layer_embedded

    Gravity and relativity could be next on the deniers hit list...

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  • Paul Beckwith
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    The media takes a lot of the blame for the publics general ignorance on climate change.

    http://www.accuweather.com/blogs/cli...me-the-m-1.asp

    I think that chess players, specifically chesstalkers know a bit more than the general public as a result of this thread...

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  • Paul Bonham
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    Originally posted by Paul Beckwith View Post
    Vlad almost got a B. Sc. in biology.

    I have a B. Eng. in Engineering Physics, an M. Sc. in Physics, and have taken numerous courses in Physics, Mathematics, Climatology, and Geography at the graduate level. My marks are almost always the highest of any class that I take.

    I have studied climate change for years and I categorically say that Vlad knows next to nothing about the science when he discusses climate change; his views are all ideologically driven and denialist.

    P.S. I just got 100% on my climate change midterm...

    Enough said...

    Your problem, Paul, is that you are totally unbalanced. The above post is evidence enough; you are so sure of yourself and your credentials, there is no way you could possibly be wrong.

    You have no concept of the notion that getting 100% on a midterm only means that you didn't make any waves; you didn't challenge any long-held beliefs; you didn't think out of the box; you just memorized and quoted back without thinking about what you were quoting; you made calculations on data without questioning the data itself. That's how you get 100%. I know, I got a lot of 100%'s in my college days too.

    I scoff at your 100% as much as I scoff at my own 100%'s from the past. And the fact that you have to advertise it here, you were probably chomping at the bit to get this post out. This whole thread is your invention and your soapbox.

    The only way you could possibly become balanced and truly grow is to realize how futile your obsession with science is. I can tell you the one clear truth that a lifetime of study of any branch of science will teach you:

    "There's no free lunch."

    That's it in a nutshell. It applies to every aspect of existence on this physical plane. Anything you do on this physical plane that appears to give you something free, you later discover there is a price. Maybe the price won't affect you personally, but it will affect others, perhaps even your descendants. Since you do have descendants, I would think you might care about that, but I believe you are too immersed in yourself and your credentials right now for that to take hold.

    If there were a free lunch, we'd have controlled cold fusion by now. We'd have anti-gravity and we'd have nanorobots circulating in our bloodstream, repairing all damage to our cells and our DNA, keeping us youthful for eternity.

    The scientific search for a free lunch will go on, and it will never bear fruit. To understand this, you need to go beyond science, into theology and the study of the supernatural. Sorry, there are no 100% midterms offered. Everyone follows their own, unique path to understanding. And if you choose to live your current life without going down that path.... you will return to have the opportunity again.

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Originally posted by Paul Beckwith View Post
    Vlad almost got a B. Sc. in biology.

    I have a B. Eng. in Engineering Physics, an M. Sc. in Physics, and have taken numerous courses in Physics, Mathematics, Climatology, and Geography at the graduate level. My marks are almost always the highest of any class that I take.
    Ask for a refund. Couldn't resist. :)

    Regarding the 100%, the only ones who got that from my profs were those who blew sunshine up their butts.

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Originally posted by Paul Beckwith View Post
    P.S. I just got 100% on my climate change midterm...

    Enough said...
    I'm sure you did. You are a true believer just like your profs.

    There won't be any jobs in climate change in five years. HTH.

    All those "credentials" and you quote an article from the Journal of Cosmology. I guess you missed the lectures on critical thinking.
    Last edited by Vlad Drkulec; Wednesday, 9th March, 2011, 11:47 PM.

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  • Paul Beckwith
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    Vlad almost got a B. Sc. in biology.

    I have a B. Eng. in Engineering Physics, an M. Sc. in Physics, and have taken numerous courses in Physics, Mathematics, Climatology, and Geography at the graduate level. My marks are almost always the highest of any class that I take.

    I have studied climate change for years and I categorically say that Vlad knows next to nothing about the science when he discusses climate change; his views are all ideologically driven and denialist.

    P.S. I just got 100% on my climate change midterm...

    Enough said...

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Originally posted by Joshua Guo View Post
    Can we close this thread? Not chess related.
    I agree with this post.

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
    I guess people will have a chance to register their opinion in the election this fall in this province.

    I think the HST will be a big item in the upcoming election. An extra tax on gasoline with prices already so high make no sense. Same with the HST on the already inflated electricy and heating bills.
    The time limits on usage seem silly because the peak usage is much earlier according to their own information but I am only going from memory. I am seriously hoping that the expected elections will put and end to all this AGW nonsense for a few years anyway.

    The latest thinking from the government in Ottawa seems to be that rolling the dice on an election is not that bad of an option. Harper seems unwilling to squander large sums of public money to avert that election anyway. The one danger is that if the Conservatives win another minority the opposition could band together and set up a coalition with Iggy in charge. The consequences of that might be okay long term as I would expect voters to punish the coalition partners when it inevitably fell apart two years down the road.

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Originally posted by Paul Beckwith View Post
    Darth Vlad; More rubbish. Please enlighten the readers with your schooling level in science. Grade 8; I thought so...
    Paul, I suspect that my understanding of science is higher than yours since I don't get taken in by the fuzzy thinking and tabloid type websites which you often cite as "evidence" for your beliefs. I was one or two credits away from getting a B.Sc. in biology when I changed majors. I had an A average in biology, physics, mathematics, and statistics and a B average in chemistry and organic chemistry when I changed majors. I continued to take a few science courses and an overload of courses after I changed majors.

    Two nights ago we were both on chesstalk at the same time; you posted and I rebutted; and then you ran away.
    While this silly jihad of yours is why you seem to post on and read chesstalk, my reasons for posting here are to talk about chess which is the whole purpose of the board. When I have free time if I am not posting about chess then I am probably reading about it, playing it or analysing it either by myself or with the help of friends.

    If I "ran away" it was because I read the chess related posts and decided to go to Chessforums.org where I offered encouragement to others trying to improve their chess play or wrote about my own experiences with chess and chess improvement. I frankly don't care much about the global warming religious hysteria now that the air is out of their sails and they aren't much of a threat to rule or pass draconian laws anywhere.

    Your claim that you rebutted anything is silly. Your idea of rebuttal is to make some personal attacks and then to provide some links to obviously biased websites of doubtful veracity as proof of your position.

    The links that I posted came from links on the websites that you posted. The important reality is that the AGW crowd is getting defunded. Their threat is waning, hence my interest in responding to your attacks is waning. I am reminded every time I respond to you or your Mini-me, Ed, of the Vernon Howard adage, "If you argue with an idiot, there are two idiots arguing." and also the Miyamoto Musashi adage, "Do nothing which is of no use." At times in the past I was the only one who would challenge your pronouncements from on high and so I was more diligent about responding to the silliness of you and your supporters. Later there was Gary and others so I didn't need to respond to every provocation. A few dissenting voices is all that is required to prevent a descent into groupthink which seemed to me to be the danger at the earlier stages of this thread.

    As a flamer you not even close to some of the masters of the genre that I have faced in the past. Your insults and debating style border on the juvenile. There is no challenge there. If the moderators closed this thread it would not matter to me one whit. HTH.
    Last edited by Vlad Drkulec; Wednesday, 9th March, 2011, 05:17 PM.

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  • Joshua Guo
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    Can we close this thread? Not chess related.

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  • Paul Beckwith
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    Darth Vlad; More rubbish. Please enlighten the readers with your schooling level in science. Grade 8; I thought so...

    Two nights ago we were both on chesstalk at the same time; you posted and I rebutted; and then you ran away. Then it took you a day to come back with your rubbish above, and find your links. You really know nothing about these topics, and just go searching for propaganda.

    Anytime you want a real time discussion on chesstalk on these topics let me know. Until then keep posting your crap; it has real entertainment value. I am sure you would be a shoe-in for a job at Fox News.

    By the way; the meteorite paper is a new paper; you are mixing it up with a study on a Mars meteorite many years ago (in which the jury is still out). Climategate is old news and there was nothing to it; deniars like yourself do the cherry picking, all the data is public and you could look at it if you had any education to do so; and the hockey stick graph is actually a whole hockey team of different data that all has the same result; enormous recent warming. Deniers of this fact like yourself are the ones that have been discredited. I knew that you would not read the link I provided; since you never read any of them.

    Like I say, anytime you want a real-time debate on any topic on chesstalk let me know. You are such a joke...

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post
    It appears that the Ontario Liberals have finally clued in to the fact that their Green Energy policy is a prescription for economic suicide. Many of the "investors" in these frauds perpetrated on taxpayers and energy consumers are finding that they spent the money but are not getting the promised returns because of a lack of infrastructure allowing them to connect to the electrical grid and start selling power at 20 time the going price paid to conventional producers.

    It is possible that there will be another climategate where the individuals and companies allowed to connect to the grid are scrutinized for ties to the governing party.
    I was recenty reading in the newspaper the cost for installing the smart meters is around 1 Billion as of last Sept. and still rising. They have no idea what income they will receive from that. At least the Cons have promised to can the program and bill on flat rate rather than time of day for those who want flat rate. You have older people (seniors) complaining they can't stay up late to do laundry and other things which are heavy draws on the system. I suppose that is subjective to the senior as I am a night person.

    I guess people will have a chance to register their opinion in the election this fall in this province.

    I think the HST will be a big item in the upcoming election. An extra tax on gasoline with prices already so high make no sense. Same with the HST on the already inflated electricy and heating bills.

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