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If my profession over those 18 years had been chess, I'd expect nothing but the same line of progression.
Compare this with Jean Hebert, whose whole life is chess yet whose chess rating 20 years ago was about where it is now.
I don't understand your point. Chess is a sport, and in any sport a professional player usually experiences a peak after a comparatively early age. For chess this age lies between 30 and 35-year old. Canadian Grandmaster Kevin Spraggett does not have a higher rating than 20 years ago. When he died, Canadian Grandmaster Igor Ivanov was less strong than 20 years before. Take any great champion of the past after their prime, and you will see the same pattern. The Capablanca of 1938 (losing four games in his last great tournament) had lost a lot of ground compared to the invincible Capablanca who did not lose a single game between 1916 (against Chajes) and 1924 (against Reti).
I don't understand your point. Chess is a sport, and in any sport a professional player usually experiences a peak after a comparatively early age. For chess this age lies between 30 and 35-year old. Canadian Grandmaster Kevin Spraggett does not have a higher rating than 20 years ago. When he died, Canadian Grandmaster Igor Ivanov was less strong than 20 years before. Take any great champion of the past after their prime, and you will see the same pattern. The Capablanca of 1938 (losing four games in his last great tournament) had lost a lot of ground compared to the invincible Capablanca who did not lose a single game between 1916 (against Chajes) and 1924 (against Reti).
Well, Jean was implying that I have little understanding of chess, further implying that is some indication of one's value as a commentator on this forum. This is the Hebert method: use chess prowess as the main indicator of one's value to Canadian chess. Thus he can use his 2400+ rating to exalt himself and denigrate those organizers who don't produce tournaments where the level of sponsorship is such that Jean can participate free of charge and be given red carpet treatment.
If this is true - chess understanding is directly related to the value of one's comments here - then I'm highlighting Jean's stagnation to show that his own value hasn't gone anywhere in the past 20 years, despite his best and full-time efforts. I'm just turning his logic against him, it doesn't mean I agree at all with his logic.
By contrast, I haven't yet reached my peak in terms of intellectual understanding in my field. I'm accomplishing things I couldn't have dreamt of 18 years ago, using the same coding language I was using then. I haven't stopped learning or improving. Yet according to your post, chess players peak around 35 and stop improving after that. Perhaps it says something about chess professionals, that very early on they reach a certain plateau, their life becomes a somewhat easy one of appearance fees and grandmaster draws, and their chess understanding undergoes no further improvement?
I believe that truly devoted chess professionals should continue to improve into their 50's, and only then would I grant them some leeway due to aging.
Jean at 50-something is out pursuing GM norms as if he's somehow getting better at chess, and he's probably using other people's money to do it (but I don't know that for sure). And while he's over in Europe doing this, he's criticizing Canadian chess organizers as I outlined above. His bitterness and anger is due not to his concern for chess in Canada, but because Canadian taxpayers / corporations aren't paying his way to the extent he sees happening for other chess professionals over in Europe.
And as previously pointed out, he's particularly angry in this thread because his eyes got so big when he saw the thread title and thought he might be in for an easy $400.
Only the rushing is heard...
Onward flies the bird.
"A lucrative one day $2000 unconditional guaranteed prize fund" and also "If not enough seats are sold, the event will rescheduled" the organizer is trying to have it both ways.
The organizer does not take any risks or what so ever to loss money in the event that the minimum number of participants is not met and re-scheduling is necessary until the quota is met, only then the event will go through. Hence, the $2000 is guaranteed. Entry fee refunds are also guaranteed to be returned.
And what's with "A surcharge of $15 will apply in addition to the CFC membership fee" for people paying their membership dues?? Doesn't seem reasonable at all.
Please note that on the flyer, it was clearly stated that the tournament is a "CFC Rated". Simply means that before you play in this tournament, you should have paid your CFC membership or CFC membership renewal fee, otherwise you should pay a surcharge of $15 if you want the organizer to do that job for you.
Entrance Fee: $50.00 Pre-Registration only by April 1, 2010 (no cheques post-dated April 24 accepted)
Confirmation of pre-registration will be sent to the players via email provided.
Check in at registration desk by 9:30 am or you will not be paired for the first round. $70.00 cash on site.
No cheques will be accepted at the event and entrance subject to available seats per room capacity. If not enough seats are reserved, the event will be rescheduled to an alternate day in May to allow sufficient time to promote this amazing one-day event.
Organizers: Mario Adragna (416 885-8142) and TD- Devon Thomas (905 495-6834)
Must bring clocks. TD will decide which clock will be used between players. All chess sets will be provided. CFC membership required or can be purchased onsite. A surcharge of $15 will apply in addition to the CFC membership fee.
PRIZES - $2000
(Based on min of 100 players)
Open U2100 U1800 U1400 Best All U900
1st $400 $300 $250 $175 $50
2nd $200 $150 $125 $75
3rd $75 $75 $75 $50
Tournament triple-weighted chess sets supplied are available for purchase at the end of the tournament at half Little Chess Mate’s retail cost - $14.99 plus applicable taxes. 1 per player. See website for details.
Side Events: Booth with chess equipment for purchase and raffle draw. Giant chess set to interact with. Opening and closing ceremonies.
Ample free parking at an award-winning convention center. Plenty of amenities: Tim Horton's, Wendy's, Applybe’s and more. Games projected on giant screen. A professional chess atmosphere.
This is a Little Chess Mates sponsored event. Facilitated and sponsored by Little Chess Mates, a chess facility exclusively for children.
Please note that on the flyer, it was clearly stated that the tournament is a "CFC Rated". Simply means that before you play in this tournament, you should have paid your CFC membership or CFC membership renewal fee, otherwise you should pay a surcharge of $15 if you want the organizer to do that job for you.
I'm not sure the CFC should allow a surcharge or processing fee on their memberships.
I'm not sure the CFC should allow a surcharge or processing fee on their memberships.
I agree, though there is not much the CFC can do about it. In view of the fact that the organiser has to submit the ratings report and pay the ratings fee, it isn't exactly a lot of work to send in membership fees at the same time.
Let's not get too excited, I suspect this "organiser" will sink without making too many ripples.
you should be careful about that - demanding that organizers work for free for you.
As I recall, one of the Ottawa events also had different fees for people renewing membership with the organizers (Aris - is this correct?)
FYI, the organizers of the Grand Pacific Open have discussed several times not processing CFC memberships at all - although providing a internet station for people to purchase a membership themselves directly. There are several reasons for this - the additional work involved, the hassle of getting the CFC to process the memberships correctly, the question of who is liable if something goes wrong (e.g. the wrong membership fee is charged or something else), and the problems we had when we sold memberships to people explaining that they would get a magazine 4 times a year and nothing happened. Online registration seems to work better (although there are periodically posts here about that not working well either.) We may still do this at some point.
Last edited by Roger Patterson; Sunday, 21st March, 2010, 02:11 PM.
In another thread, Neil Sullivan quotes from a new chess book "When you can take something away from your opponent, wisely resist the urge and falsify the idea first before biting into the apple."
That sounds like good advice for this organiser. I mean, if you are gonna pay out only 40% of the entry fees as prizes, charge $15 for processing CFC memberships, and intend to postpone (cancel?) the event if you don't get 100 suckers to sign up, it would really have helped to "falsify the idea first".
If they feel it will take up lots of their valuable time, they should factor that into how much they are paying themselves, not tax people who for any number of reasons do not have a valid membership when they show up.
The concept for the Grand Pacific Open sounds like a workable compromise.
This obsession you appear to have for following Jean Hebert around wherever he goes and verbally abusing him can't be healthy, can it?
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If they feel it will take up lots of their valuable time, they should factor that into how much they are paying themselves, not tax people who for any number of reasons do not have a valid membership when they show up.
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Sure they could do that - assuming the atypical case of an organizer who pays himself. They can also charge the people responsible directly. They do for example commonly charge late fees for people who register late, adding to the aggrivation of doing a lot of things at the last minute. Your solution does not provide any incentive for players to modify their behaviour.
I don't understand your objection - strong enough apparrently that you would make it against the rules. Players who need to renew have a zero additional cost option by buying it directly from the CFC.
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