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  • Bob Gillanders
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    Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

    Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
    I haven't seen the article to which you refer.

    Females normally have 2 cubs. How many fewer than that do you figure they have?
    Gary, I have been unable to locate the article again that talks about the polar bear problems of less fur and fewer cubs, but I may have stumbled upon the explanation.....As they attempt to adapt to warmer temperatures, well you see...the clip is self explanatory.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLhJkCvFq-o

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

    Originally posted by Bob Gillanders View Post
    Gary, why are posting an article from last week?
    Your article about a survey that claims polar bear numbers are increasing, is being refuted by reports this week that the survey is biased in order to justify an increase in the harvest. hmmm......who's right, I don't know. But I also ran across reports that polar bears are losing fur and having fewer cubs.
    I haven't seen the article to which you refer.

    Females normally have 2 cubs. How many fewer than that do you figure they have?

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  • Bob Gillanders
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    Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
    The Polar Bear scare around Hudson Bay seems to be getting debunked. I've been giving winter weather reports from that area for some time.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/...lar-bears.html
    Gary, why are posting an article from last week?
    Your article about a survey that claims polar bear numbers are increasing, is being refuted by reports this week that the survey is biased in order to justify an increase in the harvest. hmmm......who's right, I don't know. But I also ran across reports that polar bears are losing fur and having fewer cubs.

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Originally posted by Kerry Liles View Post
    It may soon be easier to ignore any aspect of science (if you live in certain states of the U.S. of A. - especially Tennessee... the latest player):
    The opinions seem to change as they find older fossils.

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...s-ramidus.html

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  • Kerry Liles
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    Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

    Originally posted by Gary Ruben View Post
    The Polar Bear scare around Hudson Bay seems to be getting debunked. I've been giving winter weather reports from that area for some time.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/...lar-bears.html
    It may soon be easier to ignore any aspect of science (if you live in certain states of the U.S. of A. - especially Tennessee... the latest player):

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/nation...xAT_story.html

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Re: THE NEW One and Only Climate Change Whatever...

    The Polar Bear scare around Hudson Bay seems to be getting debunked. I've been giving winter weather reports from that area for some time.

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/...lar-bears.html

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  • Zeljko Kitich
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    Add 49 more distinguished scientists to Paul Beckwith's dislike list. http://business.financialpost.com/20...Top+Stories%29

    I know who's not getting a Happy Newtonmass card this year.
    Last edited by Zeljko Kitich; Wednesday, 11th April, 2012, 03:26 PM.

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  • Paul Beckwith
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    "On March 22 the province released its report on its two-year review of the feed-in tariff (FIT), which is the program that’s been driving solar panel installations on buildings across Ottawa and the rest of Ontario.

    The news is good. Enough renewable energy projects have been approved since the FIT program started to replace four major coal power plants, according to one source. Greenhouse Gas emissions from electricity generation in Ontario are now only a third of what they were in 2003.

    The province claims that these clean energy initiatives have created more than 20,000 jobs in Ontario and created a green tech manufacturing sector. The changes have also stimulated more than $27 billion in private-sector investment.

    This underscores the importance of what many are calling the best clean energy approach in North America."

    http://www.energy.gov.on.ca/en/fit-a...ar-fit-review/

    http://environmentaldefence.ca/artic...tario%E2%80%99

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Originally posted by Alan Baljeu View Post
    Paul, you won't make any progress by citing rhetoric aimed at the believers.

    That article is filled with "These people are evil because climate change is real, and these biased people say otherwise". It has no persuasive merit.
    And that is why they fail.

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  • Alan Baljeu
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    Paul, you won't make any progress by citing rhetoric aimed at the believers.

    That article is filled with "These people are evil because climate change is real, and these biased people say otherwise". It has no persuasive merit.

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  • Paul Beckwith
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    Here are mug shots of some of the rich folks who have been committing crimes against humanity for years with their funding of climate change denial...

    http://weirddream.com/

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Re: Peak oil arrives,... in the year 2400,... maybe

    Originally posted by Vlad Drkulec View Post

    In twenty years the oil monopoly will be a distant memory and oil will cost less and not more than it does today (in inflation adjusted dollars).
    That's hard to know. They have to keep drilling and finding to even stand still on the oil output. That keeps getting more expensive. There's also the recovery rate from a field. It can be as low as 10% or as high as 50 to 80 percent depending on the expensive enhanced recovery used and other factors.

    If the governments in Canada and the U.S. were funding the drilling your assertion might be right. But it's companies and they and their investors want a return.

    Watch what happens the next year with natural gas in North America and the producing companies which have been finding and drilling and have a debt load to carry as a result.

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  • Vlad Drkulec
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    Re: Peak oil arrives,... in the year 2400,... maybe

    Originally posted by Alan Baljeu View Post
    Wow, that response is as absurdly distopic as the article is absurdly utopic.
    I don't think that the original article was particularly utopic. The fact is, there are many more years of oil available today than there were when I first started getting involved in these discussions of chicken little theories. The chicken littles don't want us to use this oil. Hence these political machinations to stop us from drilling and building pipelines. Whatever food problems there are can easily be reduced by ending the idiotic practice of putting ethanol in gasoline thereby diverting a large part of the food supply into something that reduces the efficiency of gasoline.

    In twenty years the oil monopoly will be a distant memory and oil will cost less and not more than it does today (in inflation adjusted dollars).

    Overpopulation? Increase education and free subjugated women everywhere. Watch the birth rate drop.

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  • Alan Baljeu
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    Re: Peak oil arrives,... in the year 2400,... maybe

    Originally posted by Paul Beckwith View Post
    To me, the article is deeply flawed and completely utopic....They forget that with no humans left on the planet they will have no customers to sell their oil to. One can only hope that humanity will one day prevail before it is too late...
    Wow, that response is as absurdly distopic as the article is absurdly utopic.

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  • Gary Ruben
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    Re: Peak oil arrives,... in the year 2400,... maybe

    Originally posted by Paul Beckwith View Post
    They forget that with no humans left on the planet they will have no customers to sell their oil to. One can only hope that humanity will one day prevail before it is too late...
    The last I heard the world population is growing and food supply is the challenge.

    Oil helps to pay the grants given to scientists.

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