COVID-19 ... how we cope :)

[Peter McKillop]

If you check the stats for the US military you will see 93 deaths. Now I was always led to believe that the military were amongst the fittest in the country, annual fitness tests and daily exercise, and of course retired by age 55. So why the 93 deaths? (of course we know the virus is nasty) Now admittedly greater percentage of seniors, obese people, and people being indoors more are huge target areas but the question about the military is an interesting one. Why?

93 doesn't seem too bad. It's less than 1/100th of one percent (to date) of the active-duty military population versus America as a whole at a little less than 1/10th of one percent (to date) of the whole population.

[Neil Frarey]

If you check the stats for the US military you will see 93 deaths. Now I was always led to believe that the military were amongst the fittest in the country, annual fitness tests and daily exercise, and of course retired by age 55. So why the 93 deaths? (of course we know the virus is nasty) Now admittedly greater percentage of seniors, obese people, and people being indoors more are huge target areas but the question about the military is an interesting one. Why?

Speaking in Warren, Mich., Barely There Biden cited the number of confirmed cases and deaths from COVID-19 for the military, saying the armed forces had seen 118,984 cases and 6,114 deaths.

[Vlad Drkulec]

If you check the stats for the US military you will see 93 deaths. Now I was always led to believe that the military were amongst the fittest in the country, annual fitness tests and daily exercise, and of course retired by age 55. So why the 93 deaths? (of course we know the virus is nasty) Now admittedly greater percentage of seniors, obese people, and people being indoors more are huge target areas but the question about the military is an interesting one. Why?

There are a lot of generals and colonels who might not be super fit also there is likely a large number with underlying conditions which make them more vulnerable. Colonel Vindmann didn't look particularly fit at the impeachment hearing.

[Dilip Panjwani]

China has handled the virus better than any other nation on Earth.

Hats off to those who could build a fully functional hospital in less than a week! (Obviously the government did not paralyse itself by imposing a myriad regulations on itself, as anyone in our so-called 'free' countries would have to reckon with if they ever attempted such a feat). BUT, the virus was spreading for months before they realized its existence, and could develop a reliable diagnostic test for it, months during which lots and lots of people would have travelled from Wuhan to Beijing, Shanghai, and elsewhere, and given that a short-term partial lockdown enforced in some Chinese cities could not have been sufficient because of spread from asymptomatic individuals...what really happened? Has a detailed analysis been published somewhere?

[Aris Marghetis]

Here's an interesting article about life expectancy through the last century and a half.

The first point they make is that although people commonly attribute our increasing life expectancy to reduced child mortality, that is actually not fully correct. Event though reduced child mortality is an awesome HUGE advancement, numbers bear out that, at any age, life expectancy has been steadily increasing. The article includes a very good 1700-2013 Life Expectancy by Age chart.

Now, especially as we're in this pandemic, check out the graph at 1918. As expected, life expectancy dropped dramatically. But then there's another kicker: note that the OLDER one was at the time, the LESS the hit to their life expectancy. Now, at least partially, this might be due to the way that pandemic killed (immune system over-response). I guess we'll find out in the coming years.

https://ourworldindata.org/its-not-j...ed-at-all-ages

[Hans Jung]

Spain has doubled its cases in the last 7 weeks and is now 8th in the world.

[Sid Belzberg]

Spain has doubled its cases in the last 7 weeks and is now 8th in the world.

CDC estimates COVID Survival estimates by age group

0-19 years: 99.99997% survive
20-49 years:99.9998% survive
50-69 years:99.995% survive
70+ years: 94.6% survive

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...scenarios.html

[Larry Bevand]

Sidf there is more to life than simple survival.

There are many folks who are still suffering 6 months after having contracted the virus.

Personally, I would rather get the flu this winter than COVID.

Larry

[Lucas Davies]

CDC estimates COVID Survival estimates by age group

0-19 years: 99.99997% survive
20-49 years:99.9998% survive
50-69 years:99.995% survive
70+ years: 99.946% survive

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...scenarios.html

It literally says that those numbers are "not predictions or estimates of the expected impact of COVID-19."

[Sid Belzberg]

It literally says that those numbers are "not predictions or estimates of the expected impact of COVID-19."

Yes,it is described as "Scenario 5: "Current Best Estimate" for "pandemic planning scenarios." based on the references I would say
that a lot of effort went into these estimates. Infection Fatality Rate is very different than case Fatality Rate. that has been my whole point
is that Infections have been defined as cases that gave us the wrong data in the past. The fact is the PCR tests are overly sensitive and
pick up mostly trace RNA from dead non infectious viral particles.
Hence many non infectious infections very very few fatalities. among those under 70.

[Lucas Davies]

Yes,it is described as "Scenario 5: "Current Best Estimate" for "pandemic planning scenarios." based on the references I would say
that a lot of effort went into these estimates. Infection Fatality Rate is very different than case Fatality Rate. that has been my whole point
is that Infections have been defined as cases that gave us the wrong data in the past. The fact is the PCR tests are overly sensitive and
pick up mostly trace RNA from dead non infectious viral particles.
Hence many non infectious infections very very few fatalities. among those under 70.

According to your source, there's an estimated 11:1 ratio of infections to reported cases.

[Sid Belzberg]

According to your source, there's an estimated 11:1 ratio of infections to reported cases.

Yes, exactly what you would expect when you set the PCR amplifcation rate to 47! The problem is that until recently this fact was not disclosed
and "infections" were defined as "cases" hence the huge increase in "cases".

[Sid Belzberg]

Sidf there is more to life than simple survival.

There are many folks who are still suffering 6 months after having contracted the virus.

Personally, I would rather get the flu this winter than COVID.

Larry

How exactly do you expect to get infected by people who carry around dead non infectious viral debris?

[Aris Marghetis]

Sidf there is more to life than simple survival.

There are many folks who are still suffering 6 months after having contracted the virus.

Personally, I would rather get the flu this winter than COVID.

Larry

I agree that COVID presents a much higher threat than simply fatalities.
This grinding erosion to our health care system leads to Excess Deaths.
I guess some people won't believe this until they lose someone they know.
A simple example is delayed tumour removal that becomes unremoveable.
Some infection survivors will understandably have reduced life expectancy.
And as they fade earlier, they'll add more grinding erosion to health care.
Is our biggest challenge people who don't "get" the aggregate risks?!

[Sid Belzberg]

I agree that COVID presents a much higher threat than simply fatalities.
This grinding erosion to our health care system leads to Excess Deaths.
I guess some people won't believe this until they lose someone they know.
A simple example is delayed tumour removal that becomes unremoveable.
Some infection survivors will understandably have reduced life expectancy.
And as they fade earlier, they'll add more grinding erosion to health care.
Is our biggest challenge people who don't "get" the aggregate risks?!

The biggest risk is sending people with symptoms home to self isolate untreated and returning to the hospital when it is too late. The virus is easily treatable when treated early.
The way this crisis was handled in Canada was and is criminal. Four different treatments for early high risk patients that have been successful! Gov interference in a Doctor patient relationship is a crime against humanity.

https://www.firstpost.com/health/ban...s-8381321.html

https://cf5e727d-d02d-4d71-89ff-9fe2...8d4308c42c.pdf

https://covid19criticalcare.com/math...-85a61317-47b4

https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202007.0025/v1