Collapse of Civilization

[Sid Belzberg]

For Sid & Dilip (And others who don't know the difference between "Democratic Marxism" & "Old-style USSR Communism"):

Democratic Marxism

&

Government

(23/11/5)





A. Statements

Statement # 1

Democratic Marxism operates within a democratic multi-party electoral system. It can be voted into government; it can be voted out of government. There will be no one-party system.

Statement # 2

Democratic Marxism respects:

a. Human Rights

b. Constitutional Rights

c. Worker's Rights

d. Rights accorded by Laws

Statement # 3

Democratic Marxism respects all religions, and those not adopting religion, but is neutral between them all. DM takes no position on Atheism, Agnosticism or the Theisms. It will not be a theocracy, but a neutral civic administrator.

Supporting Reasons

Government has no business allying itself with any particular Church, Mosque, Temple, Synagogue. But being respectful of Religions, and being neutral religiously in civic administration, does not necessarily mean that government employees must check the unique trappings of their religion at the door of their civic place of employment.

Despite the conflicts resulting from the actions of various religions, both now and historically, it is the case that all religions teach citizens a model of a good life in society (Though adherents more or less adopt the model). Society in general benefits from this, and in the balance, the positive for society has outweighed the negative.

Statement # 4.

World-wide, in the past, people have had a structure of government imposed on them by a minority.

Statement # 5.

Over time, electors have democratically accepted the government structure proposed at the time, usually some variant of earlier forms of government (Who are "electors" has evolved over time).

Statement # 6.

Some societies have had imposed on them, or chosen by election, a dictatorship (Rule by the One). However, some societies have chosen by election, a democracy (Rule by the Majority).

Statement # 7.

People have passed "Constitutions" and developed Courts in order to have human rights respected and to prohibit the tyranny of the majority.

Statement # 8.

People (A majority of the local government, at least) have the right to agree with each other on a government structure for themselves and can join hands to act jointly to govern themselves, and act in a way they feel "benefits themselves and humanity", so long as there is a respect for basic human rights.

Statement # 9

“Direct” democracy is preferable to “Representative” Democracy, if implementable. Usually, direct democracy has been practiced in small, local political units. But with today's technology, direct democracy voting can be used within larger political units.

Statement # 10

Since people should be able to focus on higher activities of life (Philosophy, the Arts, Politics, etc.), automation will be a key factor in making this happen. It can free people from lower, less rewarding, work and life tasks. So some citizens will be able to dedicate more time to public life and government, and how to improve it.

Statement # 11

Good education enlightens the mind. Today's rote data learning only challenges the memory. Without the former, society will have neither a wise electorate, nor a wise government.

Supporting Reasons

Government has no business allying itself with any particular Church, Mosque, Temple, Synagogue. But being respectful of Religions, and being neutral religiously in civic administration, does not necessarily mean that government employees must check the unique trappings of their religion at the door of their civic place of employment.

Despite the conflicts resulting from the actions of various religions, both now and historically, it is the case that all religions teach citizens a model of a good life in society (Though adherents more or less adopt the model). Society in general benefits from this, and in the balance, the positive for society has outweighed the negative.

Statement # 12

Currently, and in the past, most daily services for residents have been the jurisdiction of cities, towns, villages, townships, etc...What is found is that this tends to minimize abuse of authority and criminality.

Supporting Reason

The residents all know each other, know what is going on, and discuss it among themselves. They can intervene where something is going off the rails, because the power system is small and local. In representative government, in small format, the politicians are neighbours of the electors......the representatives cannot afford to make the residents' lives miserable, or so will be their local life.

[Secretarial Note: Statements # 1 - # 12 on Democratic Marxism have been endorsed as accurate by:

a. A group of about 250 members of a Fb group, The Democratic Marxist Global Forum (DMGF). They represent the partisan political spectrum, and the issue spectrum.

b. A group of about 40 Canadian chess tournament players on their national chess discussion board, ChessTalk (Non-Chess Topics). They represent the partisan political spectrum, and the issue spectrum.]


B. Processing Protocol

The "Conversation Format Protocol" used operates on two approaches:

a. The Revision Challenge:

1. Someone puts forward a Statement, with Support Reasons (Executive Summary format preferred) that they believe to be generally accepted by this group.
2. If within one week, no DMGF'er launches a “Revision Challenge”, with reasons, to the Statement (It does not represent Democratic Marxism as seen by this group), then it is deemed generally accepted and joins the list of DM Statements
   3. The Statement can be subject to a “Revision Challenge”. A Statement, when proposed, is given the initial benefit of the doubt that it is indeed "generally-accepted". So it is up to the Revision Challenger to muster support, and establish that the Statement is not “generally accepted” as DM policy. [This follows the Quebec parliamentary procedure: Where there is no objection to a motion put, then no discussion or voting is necessary. The motion is given the benefit of the doubt that it is generally accepted; it is passed (by a majority, at least, if not unanimously)]. A “Revision Challenge” can be processed to get an agreed upon Statement. Then it is processed in the normal way.

b. Opposition Challenge

1. A "Challenge" of the Statement that it is unworkable/untenable, with Opposition Reasons, can be put forward, once the Statement has been settled. This group can then see both sides of the issue, before they can make any good assessment as to whether or not they wish to Support the Statement or Supplement the Challenge. There will be a one week period for this.

2. When the deadline has expired, the Group Secretary makes the decision as to whether the Statement has been generally accepted, and will join the list of other generally accepted Statements.

3. Statements are always open to a “new” Challenge; the Group Secretary will make a decision as to whether a Challenge is identical to one already dismissed and need not be processed again.

C. Goal

The goal is not "unanimity", though that would be nice. The goal is majority "general acceptance” of a Statement.

Bob A (As Group Secretary)

These are the same old promises made by Marxists in the past that never panned out. Remember that your beloved Allende was closely aligned with the USSR and met with them many times.



Dec 7, 1972 New York Times Archives: Salvadlorian President Travels to Moscow

MOSCOW, Dec. 6—President Salvador Allende Gossens of Chile started a three‐day visit to the Soviet Union today in an effort to elicit new financial and technical support for the embattled Chilean economy.

The President, a socialist, was welcomed by Soviet leaders on his arrival by air from Algiers two days after having charged in the United Nations General Assembly that his nation's economy was being strangled by a blockade led by United States corporations, banking interests and governmental agencies.

High Chilean planning, banking and foreign‐trade officials have preceded the President to Moscow, evidently conducting talks on the prospects of expanded aid and laying the groundwork for an agreement to be signed by Dr. Allende.

The visitor conferred with Leonid T. Brezhnev, the Soviet Communist party leader, and with President Nikolai V. Podgorny and Premier Aleksei N. Kosygin, who had met him at the airport.

At a Kremlin dinner Mr. Podgorny assured his guest that “you are not alone in your struggle” and presented the Soviet Union and its allies as champions of Latin America's efforts to “expel foreign monopolies, rebuild an outdated social structure and end economic backwardness.”

President Allende, in reply, said Soviet support was of particular significance at a time when Chile “is becoming a silent Vietnam, without the roar of planes and the bursts of grenades, but with the same feelings, as millions of Chileans experience an overt and concealed encirclement of their country.”

‘Before’ and ‘After’ Movies

Moscow television, which carried the 15‐minute airport ceremony live, had sought to put viewers in the mood by presenting a series of documentary films that appeared designed to portray Chile before and after Dr. Allende came to power in September, 1970, in a constitutional election at the head of a leftist coalition.

The “before” films focused on poverty, industrial unrest and police repression of leftist demonstrators. The “after” films focused on social reforms and on the new Government's campaign of nationalization of foreign companies. In the process viewers were also exposed to Santiago street scenes that conveyed a sense of prosperity and well‐being superior to anything in the Soviet Union.

Although Chile is about as far from the Soviet Union as anything can be on earth, President. Allende has been receiving strong public support from Moscow since coming to power, but it is still far from considering Chile a member of the Soviet‐led bloc of Communist nations.

Chile's economic difficulties derive in part from the nationalization last year of copper mines operated by Anaconda and Kennecott.

As one of the world's principal copper producers, Chile is heavily dependent on the marketing of copper, which represents three‐fourths of her exports. The marketing problems since nationalization and generally depressed prices have seriously weakened the prospects of Chilean growth.

As a result of a decline in United States aid and the reluctance of Washington‐based development banks to extend loans, Chile has become increasingly dependent on the Soviet Union for credits and technical aid.

Projects already under way include a deep‐sea fishing program and a plant for prefabricated housing. The Soviet Union is also under contract to build a lubricating‐oil factory and is studying construction of a fishing port.

Chile has also requested Soviet assistance for the nationalized copper industry, where production has declined in the confused reorganization that followed expropriation.

[Sid Belzberg]

Life is balancing the "Sweat" with the "Fun"!

There is a saying: All work makes Jack a dull boy!

Bob A

Sure and proposing only gain and no pain is a physical impossibility that has never worked.

[Bob Armstrong]

For Sid & Dilip (And others who don't know the difference between "Democratic Marxism" & "Old-style USSR Communism"):

Democratic Marxism

&

Government

(23/11/5)





A. Statements

Statement # 1

Democratic Marxism operates within a democratic multi-party electoral system. It can be voted into government; it can be voted out of government. There will be no one-party system.

Statement # 2

Democratic Marxism respects:

a. Human Rights

b. Constitutional Rights

c. Worker's Rights

d. Rights accorded by Laws

Statement # 3

Democratic Marxism respects all religions, and those not adopting religion, but is neutral between them all. DM takes no position on Atheism, Agnosticism or the Theisms. It will not be a theocracy, but a neutral civic administrator.

Supporting Reasons

Government has no business allying itself with any particular Church, Mosque, Temple, Synagogue. But being respectful of Religions, and being neutral religiously in civic administration, does not necessarily mean that government employees must check the unique trappings of their religion at the door of their civic place of employment.

Despite the conflicts resulting from the actions of various religions, both now and historically, it is the case that all religions teach citizens a model of a good life in society (Though adherents more or less adopt the model). Society in general benefits from this, and in the balance, the positive for society has outweighed the negative.

Statement # 4.

World-wide, in the past, people have had a structure of government imposed on them by a minority.

Statement # 5.

Over time, electors have democratically accepted the government structure proposed at the time, usually some variant of earlier forms of government (Who are "electors" has evolved over time).

Statement # 6.

Some societies have had imposed on them, or chosen by election, a dictatorship (Rule by the One). However, some societies have chosen by election, a democracy (Rule by the Majority).

Statement # 7.

People have passed "Constitutions" and developed Courts in order to have human rights respected and to prohibit the tyranny of the majority.

Statement # 8.

People (A majority of the local government, at least) have the right to agree with each other on a government structure for themselves and can join hands to act jointly to govern themselves, and act in a way they feel "benefits themselves and humanity", so long as there is a respect for basic human rights.

Statement # 9

“Direct” democracy is preferable to “Representative” Democracy, if implementable. Usually, direct democracy has been practiced in small, local political units. But with today's technology, direct democracy voting can be used within larger political units.

Statement # 10

Since people should be able to focus on higher activities of life (Philosophy, the Arts, Politics, etc.), automation will be a key factor in making this happen. It can free people from lower, less rewarding, work and life tasks. So some citizens will be able to dedicate more time to public life and government, and how to improve it.

Statement # 11

Good education enlightens the mind. Today's rote data learning only challenges the memory. Without the former, society will have neither a wise electorate, nor a wise government.

Supporting Reasons

Government has no business allying itself with any particular Church, Mosque, Temple, Synagogue. But being respectful of Religions, and being neutral religiously in civic administration, does not necessarily mean that government employees must check the unique trappings of their religion at the door of their civic place of employment.

Despite the conflicts resulting from the actions of various religions, both now and historically, it is the case that all religions teach citizens a model of a good life in society (Though adherents more or less adopt the model). Society in general benefits from this, and in the balance, the positive for society has outweighed the negative.

Statement # 12

Currently, and in the past, most daily services for residents have been the jurisdiction of cities, towns, villages, townships, etc...What is found is that this tends to minimize abuse of authority and criminality.

Supporting Reason

The residents all know each other, know what is going on, and discuss it among themselves. They can intervene where something is going off the rails, because the power system is small and local. In representative government, in small format, the politicians are neighbours of the electors......the representatives cannot afford to make the residents' lives miserable, or so will be their local life.

[Secretarial Note: Statements # 1 - # 12 on Democratic Marxism have been endorsed as accurate by:

a. A group of about 250 members of a Fb group, The Democratic Marxist Global Forum (DMGF). They represent the partisan political spectrum, and the issue spectrum.

b. A group of about 40 Canadian chess tournament players on their national chess discussion board, ChessTalk (Non-Chess Topics). They represent the partisan political spectrum, and the issue spectrum.]


B. Processing Protocol

The "Conversation Format Protocol" used operates on two approaches:

a. The Revision Challenge:

1. Someone puts forward a Statement, with Support Reasons (Executive Summary format preferred) that they believe to be generally accepted by this group.
2. If within one week, no DMGF'er launches a “Revision Challenge”, with reasons, to the Statement (It does not represent Democratic Marxism as seen by this group), then it is deemed generally accepted and joins the list of DM Statements
   3. The Statement can be subject to a “Revision Challenge”. A Statement, when proposed, is given the initial benefit of the doubt that it is indeed "generally-accepted". So it is up to the Revision Challenger to muster support, and establish that the Statement is not “generally accepted” as DM policy. [This follows the Quebec parliamentary procedure: Where there is no objection to a motion put, then no discussion or voting is necessary. The motion is given the benefit of the doubt that it is generally accepted; it is passed (by a majority, at least, if not unanimously)]. A “Revision Challenge” can be processed to get an agreed upon Statement. Then it is processed in the normal way.

b. Opposition Challenge

1. A "Challenge" of the Statement that it is unworkable/untenable, with Opposition Reasons, can be put forward, once the Statement has been settled. This group can then see both sides of the issue, before they can make any good assessment as to whether or not they wish to Support the Statement or Supplement the Challenge. There will be a one week period for this.

2. When the deadline has expired, the Group Secretary makes the decision as to whether the Statement has been generally accepted, and will join the list of other generally accepted Statements.

3. Statements are always open to a “new” Challenge; the Group Secretary will make a decision as to whether a Challenge is identical to one already dismissed and need not be processed again.

C. Goal

The goal is not "unanimity", though that would be nice. The goal is majority "general acceptance” of a Statement.

Bob A (As Group Secretary)

[Bob Armstrong]

Life is balancing the "Sweat" with the "Fun"!

There is a saying: All work makes Jack a dull boy!

Bob A

[Dilip Panjwani]

... understanding of "Democratic Marxism" is minimal, and wrong.

Bob A

This seems to apply to you, Bob A, despite your intense dedication to DM, as you fail to understand that when one knows that one's share of the common pie is not proportional to one's contribution in enlarging it, one's energies are directed towards 'fun' things for self and family, rather than sweating to create a bigger pie... and the common pie keeps on shrinking (in real terms, correcting for inflation) as happened in Allende's Chile...

[Bob Armstrong]

Pretty well put Sid (I've edited a bit):

New World Order/Great Reset/Agenda 21 (By Sid - correct where in error)

Alleged - The UN says “sustainable development” is simply the “environmental movement” re-configuring the planet into a safe, green world.

Reality (NOT a "conspiracy theory") - Globalists in the power elite—working through the United Nations—are waging war against property rights, gun rights and capitalism, in order to usher in a Marxist World Order.The term ”sustainable development”—crops up in thousands of federal, state and local government laws, regulations, policies and documents, in many countries across the world. It’s the forced inventory and control of all land, water, minerals, plants, animals, building projects and human beings on the planet. In other words, a blueprint for what many fear could morph into a totalitarian world government.

My Revisions:

1. The "Higher Authority" - partly open; partly hidden - My term for those driving this new paradigm for Earth - it is generally benevolently-intentioned, though misguided.
2. Sid's view of "totalitarianism" & "Democratic Marxism" is quite flawed. Totalitarianism usually is used for a state under "Fascism", not some sort of "Socialism". His understanding of "Democratic Marxism" is minimal, and wrong.

Bob A

[Sid Belzberg]

Globalists in the power elite—working through the United Nations—are waging war against property rights, gun rights and capitalism in order to usher in a Marxist World Order. This war is known as “Agenda 21”.

Considered a “conspiracy theory” by the mainstream media and other apologists of globalisation, the flagship term for Agenda 21—”sustainable development”—crops up in thousands of federal, state and local government laws, regulations, policies and documents. So is Agenda 21 really just a “theory”?

The UN says “sustainable development” is simply the “environmental movement” reconfiguring the planet into a safe, green world. Others maintain it’s the forced inventory and control of all land, water, minerals, plants, animals, building projects and human beings on the planet. In other words, a blueprint for what many fear could morph into a totalitarian world government. So what’s the real agenda behind Agenda 21?

[Sid Belzberg]

And how nice of you to admit that Canadian federal government should be doing more to eliminate hunger in Canada, that is a very SOCIALIST point of view.

Oh, that must bite huh? Well then if you want to shift YOUR position, go ahead and urge FOR PROFIT COPRORATIONS in Canada to do more to fight hunger in Canada! LOL

I'll wait for it.... LOL






Commendations on your weight loss and work to fight obesity.

If only you could see that widespread obesity, among other societal ills, is encouraged by FOR PROFIT CORPORATIONS (Coke, Pepsi, Frito Lay, etc etc etc) and that that is where your fight against obesity, among other societal ills, really lies....

As originally stated, this large swath of Canadians being fed is no thanks to the Federal government. You stated that the private sector would never undertake programs like SNAP, but indeed, that is what was achieved in Canada, where our genocidal government could not be relied upon to help. Communism/socialism ruins everything, and historically it always has. You pointed out the SNAP program in the US, which is a disaster. They do not attempt to limit what the food stamps can purchase, and yes, it includes potato chips, sugared drinks, etc. Also, fraud has been rife in this program, as pointed out earlier.

So the struggle here is not left versus right but good versus evil. What we have seen in the last century is a partnership between corporations and Governments and unelected Non-Governmental Organizations.
The result is a massively corrupted authoritarian medical-political complex with undo influence wielded through NGOs. Historically I have never heard of a government that does a good job in much of anything other than murdering its own citizens abusing their trust, and finding ingenious ways to siphon off money for themselves.

[Bob Armstrong]

The Widening Wealth/Income Gap - an indicia of Collapse of Civilization?

Americas - USA

"Billionaire Tax Rests on a Disputed $14,729 Refund at the Supreme Court

• Progressives see tax on assets as easing deficit, inequality
• Justices will likely rule in midst of presidential campaign"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...mpaign=markets

Bob A

[Pargat Perrer]

When you are proven wrong by pointing out that the Government of Canada has done almost zero to eliminate hunger in Canada, you shift your position and say only corporations do nothing to eliminate hunger, but you are ok with non-profits contributing. How nice of you!

And how nice of you to admit that Canadian federal government should be doing more to eliminate hunger in Canada, that is a very SOCIALIST point of view.

Oh, that must bite huh? Well then if you want to shift YOUR position, go ahead and urge FOR PROFIT COPRORATIONS in Canada to do more to fight hunger in Canada! LOL

I'll wait for it.... LOL

Regarding how much I weigh, I have lost over 50 lbs from my peak and have trended back to normal. You would be surprised to hear that my contribution has been the opposite of feeding people but has been solving obesity and all the attendant diseases that accompany it. Here is an article I recently published on how to solve obesity in a doctor's forum that I am pleased to share here.

You see, obesity is a problem that extends across all economic classes and is not a function of overeating, as I explain below. I appreciate your concern about my health and well-being.
....

Commendations on your weight loss and work to fight obesity.

If only you could see that widespread obesity, among other societal ills, is encouraged by FOR PROFIT CORPORATIONS (Coke, Pepsi, Frito Lay etc etc etc) and that that is where your fight against obesity, among other societal ills, really lies....

[Bob Armstrong]

ChessTalk

Collapse of Civilization
(Started: 23/10/30)

Weekly Overview

Notes:

1. The “Weekly Overview” of the topic is posted for the benefit of new members who may have come in between the “Weekly Overviews”. It provides an executive summary of the issue for new viewers.
2. The Stats of participation are important to allow all to determine the extent of continuing interest. For thread originators//responders they are important to see if the interest no longer warrants the labour.

A. Statistics

Week # 5 (23/11/27 – 12/3 [7 days])

(Sometimes Adjusted for no. of days)

A. Weekly Stats:
.....................................................2023 Average..........................................................2023 Average
Last Week's......Prior Week's........Views/Day..........Last Week's.....Prior Week's......Responses/Day
Views/Day........Views/Day.............(5 wks.)............Responses/Day....Resp./Day.......(5 wks.).

…55........................49.......................43.........................4........................5........................4

B. Analysis of Last Week's Stats

Last week's stats are running a bit ahead of those of the prior week, and the 2023 year to date.

It seems that this new non-chess topic has hit an interest point (it is a bit beyond the no. of views per day of our 2 last quite active threads, Human Self-Government, and, Negative Climate Change)....good on the initiator, Bob Gillanders (I started the thread for him).

C. Is Our Civilization Now Collapsing?

Civilizations do not collapse overnight........there is a long, steady, continuous deterioration before hand. Then, all of a sudden, the tipping point has been reached, and we get metamorphosis (Like caterpillar to butterfly, only in reverse!). Either Dystopia, or a new empire rising like the Sphinx from the ashes, sometimes worse than the one it replaces.

Do we care who is going to be in control, as humans battle to survive in an environment more and more hostile to their continued existence (Negative Climate Change; Possible Nuclear War; Pandemics; etc.)? The very collapse of our civilization is on the horizon!

D. Indicia of a Collapsing Civilization

Comment below on what the current evidence is that our world's civilization is now collapsing......we'll add some of your ideas here! If we miss it, remind us:

1. Increasing dependence on private, volunteer Food Banks.
2. Increasing "Negative Health" factors, such as obesity (Despite amazing advances in medicine and medical technology).
3. An agenda by unknown forces to impose on the World a "New World Order/Great Reset".

Additional Notes:

1. The goal of this thread is not to woodshed an opposing view into submission. Every position is entitled to post as it sees fit, regardless of the kind of, and amount of, postings by other positions. What is wanted is serious consideration of all posts........then you decide.

2. I personally, as the thread originator (After an initiative by Bob Gillanders), am trying to post a new response at least twice per week, but admit my busy schedule means I am sometimes falling short on this. So it is necessary,as is happening, that a number of other CT'ers are posting responses here somewhat regularly.

Bob A

[Dilip Panjwani]

Sidney Belzberg	Tue, Nov 28, 12:59 AM (5 days ago)
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Sugar, the 21st Century Version of Cigarettes
By Sid Belzberg

The Historical Context: Shifting Blame from Sugar to fat in the 1950s, a pivotal shift occurred in nutritional science and public health messaging, profoundly influencing dietary guidelines for decades. This shift was catalyzed by researchers like Dr. Ancel Keys, who through his Seven Countries Study, suggested a strong link between saturated fat intake and coronary heart disease. Concurrently, emerging evidence indicated that sugar might also be a risk factor for heart disease. However, the sugar industry, particularly the Sugar Research Foundation (now the Sugar Association), strategically intervened. They funded research to shift the focus away from sugar and onto dietary fat as the primary health concern. This manipulation of scientific discourse was later uncovered through historical analyses, notably highlighted in a 2016 publication in JAMA Internal Medicine. The revelation of these tactics has since served as a stark reminder of how industry funding can influence scientific research and public health policy.

Introduction
The comparison between sugar and cigarettes in the 21st century is more than just a metaphor—it's a public health alarm. The pervasive presence of sugar in our diets and its insidious effects on metabolic health are increasingly scrutinized. This article delves into the biochemical underpinnings of sugar's adverse health effects, particularly in the context of metabolic disorders and diseases like cancer and Alzheimer's. We also explore the potential of allulose, a sugar alternative, and its implications for public health and healthcare costs.

The Metabolic Perils of Sugar
Sugar and Insulin Resistance: The Prelude to Metabolic Disorders
Excessive sugar consumption is a primary driver of insulin resistance, a harbinger of metabolic syndrome, type 2 diabetes, and numerous cardiovascular diseases. Insulin resistance arises from the persistent elevation of blood glucose and insulin levels, leading to the diminished effectiveness of insulin in glucose regulation.

Cancer: The Warburg Effect and Sugar's Role
Cancer cells exhibit altered metabolism, famously known as the Warburg effect, characterized by preferential reliance on glycolysis over oxidative phosphorylation for energy production, even in oxygen-rich conditions. This metabolic quirk is not just a byproduct of cancerous transformation but a critical contributor to cancer cell proliferation and survival. Sugar, as the primary fuel for glycolysis, thus becomes a key player in this scenario. Excessive sugar intake may exacerbate this metabolic shift, potentially accelerating cancer progression.

Alzheimer's Disease: A Metabolic Perspective
Alzheimer's disease, often dubbed “type 3 diabetes,” implicates disrupted brain glucose metabolism. The disease is marked by a reduced ability of brain cells to utilize glucose, leading to energy deficits and neuronal dysfunction. This impaired glucose metabolism in the brain is thought to contribute significantly to the pathogenesis of Alzheimer's.

Allulose: A Ray of Hope?
The Biochemistry of Allulose
Allulose, a monosaccharide, resembles fructose structurally but is metabolized differently. Its potential to modulate glycolysis, particularly impacting enzymes like lactate dehydrogenase (LDH), makes it a compound of interest. By possibly impairing the lactate-producing pathway, allulose could inhibit the energy production in cancer cells, disrupting their growth.

Allulose in Alzheimer's Allulose in Alzheimer's
Allulose’s impact on glucose metabolism could be beneficial in Alzheimer's. By offering an alternative metabolic pathway, it might alleviate the energy deficit in brain cells caused by impaired glucose utilization.

A Thought Experiment: Allulose Adoption and Public Health
Healthcare Cost Reduction
Imagine a scenario where allulose replaces sugar on a global scale. The potential reduction in metabolic diseases could translate into significant healthcare savings. Consider the costs associated with treating diabetes, obesity, and their complications. A shift to allulose could reduce the prevalence of these conditions, slashing billions from healthcare budgets.

Lives Saved
Beyond financial savings, the human impact is profound. A reduction in sugar-related metabolic disorders would mean a decrease in morbidity and mortality rates. The potential impact on cancer and Alzheimer's incidence and progression could be substantial, translating into countless lives improved and extended.

The comparison of sugar to cigarettes is not an overstatement but a reflection of the urgent need to address the public health crisis posed by excessive sugar consumption. The exploration of sugar alternatives like allulose offers a promising avenue.As medical professionals and scientists, our role in advocating for dietary changes and supporting research in this field is crucial in shaping a healthier future.


https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...stract/2548255

Nice article, Sid!

[Sid Belzberg]

Talk about missing the point!

Your efforts to heap praise on Walmart and Loblaws for donating food THAT THEY CAN'T SELL is ludicrous and pathetic.

IT'S FOOD THAT THEY WOULD THROW INTO THEIR DUMPSTERS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SELL IT!

So big deal, they give it to the Food Bank. It's what any responsible entity SHOULD DO!

They don't get credit for doing what they SHOULD DO. Calgary Food Bank should NOT BE PRAISING these corporates for doing what they should do. In fact, Calgary Food Bank should state that "Walmart and Loblaws did their civic duty in donating their unsellable food items to us." That's it, end of statement.

(Kudos to Calgary Food Bank and other CHARITABLE OR NON-PROFIT ORGAIIZATIONS like them for doing what any FOR PROFIT CORPORATION WOULD NOT DO in caring for those in need and unable to pay.)

I bet NONE of your food is donated by Walmart and Loblaws! You wouldn't buy the food that they donate! You are a regular pathetic customer that they can't sell this food to because it doesn't meet your standards of perfection.

So dumpster diving is appropriate, because if it wasn't donated it would go to the dumpster. THE FOOD HAS TO BE UNSELLABLE BEFORE THEY WILL DONATE IT!

You attempt to paint these corporate scum as angels, and why... because you think corporations are better than government. But donating food that you can't sell is nothing special, not deserving of praise. It's simply what SHOULD be done.

You still remain a hypocrite. I doubt YOU are donating any food from your probably overstocked pantry.....

how much do you weigh, you overstuffed pig? As much as Chris Christie or Ted Cruz? Biggest pigs in politics..... utterly disgusting.

You want some credit, go on a crash diet and donate the food you WOULD have stuffed yourself on! Maybe THEN people will give you some credit!

Not only did you miss the point.... you walked right into the quicksand. Maybe Dilip will try throwing a rope to you, LOL.

When you are proven wrong by pointing out that the Government of Canada has done almost zero to eliminate hunger in Canada, you shift your position and say only corporations do nothing to eliminate hunger, but you are ok with non-profits contributing. How nice of you!

Regarding how much I weigh, I have lost over 50 lbs from my peak and have trended back to normal. You would be surprised to hear that my contribution has been the opposite of feeding people but has been solving obesity and all the attendant diseases that accompany it. Here is an article I recently published on how to solve obesity in a doctor's forum that I am pleased to share here.

You see, obesity is a problem that extends across all economic classes and is not a function of overeating, as I explain below. I appreciate your concern about my health and well-being.

Sidney Belzberg	Tue, Nov 28, 12:59 AM (5 days ago)
to c21x

Sugar, the 21st Century Version of Cigarettes
By Sid Belzberg

The Historical Context: Shifting Blame from Sugar to fat in the 1950s, a pivotal shift occurred in nutritional science and public health messaging, profoundly influencing dietary guidelines for decades. This shift was catalyzed by researchers like Dr. Ancel Keys, who through his Seven Countries Study, suggested a strong link between saturated fat intake and coronary heart disease. Concurrently, emerging evidence indicated that sugar might also be a risk factor for heart disease. However, the sugar industry, particularly the Sugar Research Foundation (now the Sugar Association), strategically intervened. They funded research to shift the focus away from sugar and onto dietary fat as the primary health concern. This manipulation of scientific discourse was later uncovered through historical analyses, notably highlighted in a 2016 publication in JAMA Internal Medicine. The revelation of these tactics has since served as a stark reminder of how industry funding can influence scientific research and public health policy.

Introduction
The comparison between sugar and cigarettes in the 21st century is more than just a metaphor—it's a public health alarm. The pervasive presence of sugar in our diets and its insidious effects on metabolic health are increasingly scrutinized. This article delves into the biochemical underpinnings of sugar's adverse health effects, particularly in the context of metabolic disorders and diseases like cancer and Alzheimer's. We also explore the potential of allulose, a sugar alternative, and its implications for public health and healthcare costs.

The Metabolic Perils of Sugar
Sugar and Insulin Resistance: The Prelude to Metabolic Disorders
Excessive sugar consumption is a primary driver of insulin resistance, a harbinger of metabolic syndrome, type 2 diabetes, and numerous cardiovascular diseases. Insulin resistance arises from the persistent elevation of blood glucose and insulin levels, leading to the diminished effectiveness of insulin in glucose regulation.

Cancer: The Warburg Effect and Sugar's Role
Cancer cells exhibit altered metabolism, famously known as the Warburg effect, characterized by preferential reliance on glycolysis over oxidative phosphorylation for energy production, even in oxygen-rich conditions. This metabolic quirk is not just a byproduct of cancerous transformation but a critical contributor to cancer cell proliferation and survival. Sugar, as the primary fuel for glycolysis, thus becomes a key player in this scenario. Excessive sugar intake may exacerbate this metabolic shift, potentially accelerating cancer progression.

Alzheimer's Disease: A Metabolic Perspective
Alzheimer's disease, often dubbed “type 3 diabetes,” implicates disrupted brain glucose metabolism. The disease is marked by a reduced ability of brain cells to utilize glucose, leading to energy deficits and neuronal dysfunction. This impaired glucose metabolism in the brain is thought to contribute significantly to the pathogenesis of Alzheimer's.

Allulose: A Ray of Hope?
The Biochemistry of Allulose
Allulose, a monosaccharide, resembles fructose structurally but is metabolized differently. Its potential to modulate glycolysis, particularly impacting enzymes like lactate dehydrogenase (LDH), makes it a compound of interest. By possibly impairing the lactate-producing pathway, allulose could inhibit the energy production in cancer cells, disrupting their growth.

Allulose in Alzheimer's Allulose in Alzheimer's
Allulose’s impact on glucose metabolism could be beneficial in Alzheimer's. By offering an alternative metabolic pathway, it might alleviate the energy deficit in brain cells caused by impaired glucose utilization.

A Thought Experiment: Allulose Adoption and Public Health
Healthcare Cost Reduction
Imagine a scenario where allulose replaces sugar on a global scale. The potential reduction in metabolic diseases could translate into significant healthcare savings. Consider the costs associated with treating diabetes, obesity, and their complications. A shift to allulose could reduce the prevalence of these conditions, slashing billions from healthcare budgets.

Lives Saved
Beyond financial savings, the human impact is profound. A reduction in sugar-related metabolic disorders would mean a decrease in morbidity and mortality rates. The potential impact on cancer and Alzheimer's incidence and progression could be substantial, translating into countless lives improved and extended.

The comparison of sugar to cigarettes is not an overstatement but a reflection of the urgent need to address the public health crisis posed by excessive sugar consumption. The exploration of sugar alternatives like allulose offers a promising avenue.As medical professionals and scientists, our role in advocating for dietary changes and supporting research in this field is crucial in shaping a healthier future.


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[Pargat Perrer]

Pargat,
Personal attacks and insults at those who disagree with you is what trolls and those who aspire to be bullies do. So listen to the advise Newsom gave to DeSantis in their recent debate and stop demeaning personal attacks on others.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wat...d-ron-desantis

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

and....

When in Rome, do as the Romans do.

[Pargat Perrer]

The criticism suggesting that the Calgary Food Bank's efforts in acquiring frozen meat from Loblaws and Walmart is akin to "dumpster diving" is not only unfounded but also undermines the importance and integrity of food rescue initiatives. These comments display a lack of understanding about how food rescue operations work and the strict standards of food safety and quality they adhere to.

Firstly, it's crucial to understand that "rescued food" refers to food items that are perfectly edible and nutritious but might not be sold due to various reasons such as overstock, nearing sell-by dates, or minor packaging flaws. This is far from being waste or unfit for consumption. The food banks' collaboration with retail stores involves a systematic and dignified process of collecting and distributing these items, ensuring they meet all safety and health regulations.

Labeling such important work as "dumpster diving" is not only disrespectful but also ignores the positive impact these efforts have on communities. Food banks, through their partnerships with corporations, play a crucial role in reducing food waste and addressing hunger. They ensure that surplus food reaches those in need, rather than going to waste. Criticizing these efforts without understanding their significance or operational procedures is both unfair and counterproductive.

Moreover, this viewpoint overlooks the broader issue of food insecurity and how collaborations between food banks and for-profit corporations can be a part of the solution. Such partnerships are essential in creating a sustainable model where surplus food is used effectively to support those in need, rather than contributing to the growing problem of food waste.

In summary, the efforts of the Calgary Food Bank and their corporate partners in rescuing and distributing food should be applauded, not belittled. Their work is a testament to community collaboration and responsible resource management, aiming to address the pressing issues of hunger and food waste.

Talk about missing the point!

Your efforts to heap praise on Walmart and Loblaws for donating food THAT THEY CAN'T SELL is ludicrous and pathetic.

IT'S FOOD THAT THEY WOULD THROW INTO THEIR DUMPSTERS BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SELL IT!

So big deal, they give it to the Food Bank. It's what any responsible entity SHOULD DO!

They don't get credit for doing what they SHOULD DO. Calgary Food Bank should NOT BE PRAISING these corporates for doing what they should do. In fact, Calgary Food Bank should state that "Walmart and Loblaws did their civic duty in donating their unsellable food items to us." That's it, end of statement.

(Kudos to Calgary Food Bank and other CHARITABLE OR NON-PROFIT ORGAIIZATIONS like them for doing what any FOR PROFIT CORPORATION WOULD NOT DO in caring for those in need and unable to pay.)

I bet NONE of your food is donated by Walmart and Loblaws! You wouldn't buy the food that they donate! You are a regular pathetic customer that they can't sell this food to because it doesn't meet your standards of perfection.

So dumpster diving is appropriate, because if it wasn't donated it would go to the dumpster. THE FOOD HAS TO BE UNSELLABLE BEFORE THEY WILL DONATE IT!

You attempt to paint these corporate scum as angels, and why... because you think corporations are better than government. But donating food that you can't sell is nothing special, not deserving of praise. It's simply what SHOULD be done.

You still remain a hypocrite. I doubt YOU are donating any food from your probably overstocked pantry.....

how much do you weigh, you overstuffed pig? As much as Chris Christie or Ted Cruz? Biggest pigs in politics..... utterly disgusting.

You want some credit, go on a crash diet and donate the food you WOULD have stuffed yourself on! Maybe THEN people will give you some credit!

Not only did you miss the point.... you walked right into the quicksand. Maybe Dilip will try throwing a rope to you, LOL.