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  • Hi Sid:

    The nature of the Corona-19 Virus

    1. COVID Conspiracy Theory # 2 (Petri Dish) -

    a. I have read a lot on the "Petri Dish" theory of the origin of the SARSCov-2 virus, and seen videos making this claim, even to the very bench the female lab technician from the Wuhan lab sat on outside of Wuhan, where she set on the bench the dry ice container containing the virus! I will admit it is quite possible, but the evidence to me is so far insufficient.....and your evidence for your position is impressive. It is quite logical that military see value in Bio-weapons. I have seen allegations of combining SARS and the HIV virus as well.

    b. I have read many articles on the universe of natural non-human viruses out there waiting to make humans sick. There is a lot that was written earlier on the bats & pangolin:

    Evidence for SARS-CoV-2 related coronaviruses circulating in bats and pangolins in Southeast Asia (21/2/9): https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-21240-1

    It seems to me that the case is not yet closed in favour of Conspiracy Theory # 2.

    2. COVID Conspiracy Theory # 3 (Inadvertent Escape) Did a military-created virus escape from the Wuhan Lab somehow (Not deliberate) - perhaps - China has so stonewalled on any on-site investigation that there is little "direct" evidence on anything. There is admittedly some "circumstantial" evidence.


    ~ Bob A (T-S/P)
    Last edited by Bob Armstrong; Friday, 14th January, 2022, 09:36 AM.

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    • I am not satisfied:


      COVID Conspiracy Theory # 4 - that some covert ET Societies of Earth conspired together to make the world sick, in order to reduce Earth's over-population problem, and make more room for more ET immigrants.

      I am satisfied:

      - that 5.5 MILLION world deaths in 2020-2021 does practically nothing to cull humanity, when the population of the Earth is now 7.7 BILLION.

      ~ Bob A (T-S/P)
      Last edited by Bob Armstrong; Friday, 14th January, 2022, 10:50 AM.

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      • Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
        https://www.amazon.com/Real-Anthony-...s%2C114&sr=8-1

        The book is heavily referenced and I challenge you to find any fact that is not true in this awesome book.
        "Children's Health Defense is an American activist group mainly known for anti-vaccine activities and has been identified as one of the main sources of misinformation on vaccines."

        Next.

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        • Originally posted by Neil Frarey View Post
          Dr. Anthony Fauci is the highest paid US government employee at well over 400k.LOOL!!!
          In the Ontario Sunshine list the previous Health Chief Medical Officer - D.Williams - 2020 with $444,344 (CAD).
          The amount is not out of the sky.

          just to add the same narrative, it is much higher than the premier Doug Ford - 2020 - $208,974

          Last edited by Egidijus Zeromskis; Friday, 14th January, 2022, 10:22 AM.

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          • Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post

            "Children's Health Defense is an American activist group mainly known for anti-vaccine activities and has been identified as one of the main sources of misinformation on vaccines."

            Next.
            Really, please enlighten us and show any specific statement that is misinformation put out by the Children's health defense.

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            • Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
              Hi Sid:

              The nature of the Corona-19 Virus

              1. COVID Conspiracy Theory # 2 (Petri Dish) -

              a. I have read a lot on the "Petri Dish" theory of the origin of the SARSCov-2 virus, and seen videos making this claim, even to the very bench the female lab technician from the Wuhan lab sat on outside of Wuhan, where she set on the bench the dry ice container containing the virus! I will admit it is quite possible, but the evidence to me is so far insufficient.....and your evidence for your position is impressive. It is quite logical that military see value in Bio-weapons. I have seen allegations of combining SARS and the HIV virus as well.

              b. I have read many articles on the universe of natural non-human viruses out there waiting to make humans sick. There is a lot that was written earlier on the bats & pangolin:

              Evidence for SARS-CoV-2 related coronaviruses circulating in bats and pangolins in Southeast Asia (21/2/9): https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-021-21240-1

              It seems to me that the case is not yet closed in favour of Conspiracy Theory # 2.

              2. COVID Conspiracy Theory # 3 (Inadvertent Escape) Did a military-created virus escape from the Wuhan Lab somehow (Not deliberate) - perhaps - China has so stonewalled on any on-site investigation that there is little "direct" evidence on anything. There is admittedly some "circumstantial" evidence.


              ~ Bob A (T-S/P)
              Bob the Nature article you cite is precisely the one that Dr. Fauci organized to cover up what the NIH funded in the Wuhan lab. The lead author of that article in his email to Dr. Fauci said that it is highly unlikely that it occurred naturally. He was then pressed by Dr. Fauci to publish the article you mention to cover up what they did. THe Sarscov2 consists of a genetically engineered spike protein fused onto a Coronavirus found in bats. The spike protein has four key receptor regions to infect human cells. This sequence is never found in bat viruses, more specifically the furin cleavage site is uniquely a human creation and could have never evolved naturally (statistically impossible) in a bat virus. It is the product of gain of function experiments and the sequence was even patented by Moderna many years ago.

              https://archive.is/18Ho4

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              Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Friday, 14th January, 2022, 11:29 AM.

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              • Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post

                Really, please enlighten us and show any specific statement that is misinformation put out by the Children's health defense.
                In the book preview available at amazon Chapter 1 the second page: "Medicine were available against COVID - inexpensive, safe medicines -that would have prevented hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations and saved as many lives if only we'd used them in this country"

                How come that such a strong statement has no citations when the book is filled with them left and right.

                And what were those magic pills?




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                • Originally posted by Aris Marghetis View Post

                  If I may suggest, "rolling averages" are better for such questions.
                  And they smooth out graphs, making them more comprehendable.
                  Yes Aris, rolling average is a better number. I was just looking for an early sign of optimism. :)

                  Ontario numbers updated this morning:
                  Intensive care (ICU) - now 527, up from 500 yesterday.
                  Rolling 7 day average = 463

                  So numbers are still trending up. Me sad this morning! :)



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                  • Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post

                    In the book preview available at amazon Chapter 1 the second page: "Medicine were available against COVID - inexpensive, safe medicines -that would have prevented hundreds of thousands of hospitalizations and saved as many lives if only we'd used them in this country"

                    How come that such a strong statement has no citations when the book is filled with them left and right.

                    And what were those magic pills?



                    https://c19study.com

                    Here are the citations in chapter 1 for early stage treatment for COVID19.

                    “Peter A. McCullough, et al., The Pathophysiologic Basic and Clinical Rationale for Early Ambulatory Treatment of COVID-19, V:134 I:1 The American Journal of Medicine P16-22, (Jan 1, 2021,) DOI: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.amjmed.2020.07.003. https://www.amjmed.com/article/S0002...673-2/fulltext

                    42 Peter A. McCullough, et al., Multifaceted highly targeted sequential multidrug treatment of early ambulatory high-risk SARS-CoV-2 infection (COVID-19), 30;21(4):517-530 Rev Cardiovasc Med. (Dec. 2020), doi: 10.31083/j.rcm.2020.04.264, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33387997/”

                    Excerpt From: Robert F. Kennedy. “The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health (Children’s Health Defense).” Apple Books.

                    Last edited by Sid Belzberg; Friday, 14th January, 2022, 01:26 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post
                      This sequence is never found in bat viruses, more specifically the furin cleavage site is uniquely a human creation and could have never evolved naturally (statistically impossible) in a bat virus.]
                      "Furin cleavage sites naturally occur in coronaviruses"
                      https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...73506120304165

                      "•Furin cleavage sites at spike S1/S2 are common in coronaviruses.
                      •Furin cleavage sites at spike S1/S2 naturally occurred independently for multiple times in coronaviruses"


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                      • COVID Conspiracy Theory # 2 (Petri Dish)

                        Interpretation of Fauci e-mails: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5TvU4q2J1s.

                        ~ Bob A (T-S/P)

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                        • Canada

                          New modelling by the federal government suggests daily hospitalizations will surge in the coming weeks, driven by extremely high levels of transmission of the Omicron variant of COVID-19.

                          https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...pWzv6-h8T5BTq4

                          Subscribers Only

                          ~ Bob A (T-S/P)

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                          • Originally posted by Egidijus Zeromskis View Post

                            "Furin cleavage sites naturally occur in coronaviruses"
                            https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...73506120304165

                            "•Furin cleavage sites at spike S1/S2 are common in coronaviruses.
                            •Furin cleavage sites at spike S1/S2 naturally occurred independently for multiple times in coronaviruses"

                            From the article
                            "Surprisingly, SARS-CoV-2 has the furin recognition motif at S1/S2, causing by a 12-nucleotide insertion not presented even in its closest relatives (Walls et al., 2020, Coutard et al., 2020). "
                            They then go on to argue that it is possible that this mutation could have occurred naturally without addressing the very low statistical probability of this occurrence. The phylogenetic analysis does not address this mysterious mutation in the S1/S2 site of the spike protein. Looks to me like pharma sponsored propaganda. The evidence is overwhelming that this is a product of gain of function work and in fact the sequences were published long before the pandemic from the creators of this virus and patented by Moderna.
                            https://archive.is/18Ho4

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                            • Originally posted by Bob Armstrong View Post
                              Canada

                              New modelling by the federal government suggests daily hospitalizations will surge in the coming weeks, driven by extremely high levels of transmission of the Omicron variant of COVID-19.

                              https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...pWzv6-h8T5BTq4

                              Subscribers Only

                              ~ Bob A (T-S/P)
                              Yes, and as I posted earlier is a surge of the vaccinated.

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                              • Originally posted by Sid Belzberg View Post

                                From the article
                                "Surprisingly, SARS-CoV-2 has the furin recognition motif at S1/S2, causing by a 12-nucleotide insertion not presented even in its closest relatives (Walls et al., 2020, Coutard et al., 2020). "
                                They then go on to argue that it is possible that this mutation could have occurred naturally without addressing the very low statistical probability of this occurrence. The phylogenetic analysis does not address this mysterious mutation in the S1/S2 site of the spike protein. Looks to me like pharma sponsored propaganda. The evidence is overwhelming that this is a product of gain of function work and in fact the sequences were published long before the pandemic from the creators of this virus and patented by Moderna.
                                https://archive.is/18Ho4
                                I don't see CTCCTCGGCGGGCACGTAG in the patent. Thus I'll leave that to explain to someone more knowledgeable what that guy wrote.
                                https://go.usa.gov/xtDpw

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